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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 6:03 am
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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Uber/Lyft should be able to match up maskless drivers with maskless riders and masked drivers with masked riders. I'm sure the technology is available to do that.
And Tinder should be able to match condomless men with women who hates condoms. I'm sure the technology is available to do that.
And about giving a rating of 1 is the driver has the audacity to follow his employers rules and health official recommendations, that is one of the most childish things I have read recently.
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 6:22 am
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We all wear masks for the same reason we all wear pants.

The odds of someone running commando under their pants is very very low, and so the vast majority of the time the pants are just a courtesy/custom. But every once and a while they perform a much greater function (dude with no underwear in his life) and for that we are all grateful for the custom of wearing pants in public.

It is nothing more than that.

Pants are not a political statement. I do not rate my Uber driver based on pants vs shorts. I do not rate Starbucks on the type of uniforms (or not) it makes the barista wear. I general not not give a damn about the attire of people if it is reasonably professional or appropriate in the context of our interaction. And that context has now change to make masks like pants: a common courtesy, a new custom, and something that is occasionally very necessary.
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 8:02 am
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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Anyone have recent experiences with Uber and/or Lyft especially since the new mask and back seat requirements came into effect? I wonder if a face shield instead of an actual mask would be accepted? And how much do the windows have to be rolled down? Would just cracking the windows be acceptable? I have not taken Uber or Lyft since 9th March 2020 when I returned home from my last Tour of Duty. But when I go back to work I'm positive I'll need to use Uber or Lyft at some point.

Those who are pro-mask are no doubt satisfied about their policy. Those of you who are anti-mask have you tried any pushback in a way that would notrisk getting you kicked off the platform?
I am utterly appalled at the pettiness of this response. The company is trying to keep people safe, following science-based recommendations. My only consolation is that so many others are as appalled by your assumption that your personal preferences and political agenda matter more than the safety of others.
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 9:05 am
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I'm curious about responses to the OP's original request on Uber/lyft experience - not another mask debate.
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 9:27 am
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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
What I plan to do is wear the mask. Put the mask on JUST before I get in the car. But I plan to rate any driver who does comply with the mask policy no greater than four (4) stars. If asked for feedback I'll say that I feel LESS safe when the driver wears a mask even though it is in compliance with Uber (or Lyft) stated policy.
stupid is as stupid does
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 10:02 am
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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
What I plan to do is wear the mask. Put the mask on JUST before I get in the car. But I plan to rate any driver who does comply with the mask policy no greater than four (4) stars. If asked for feedback I'll say that I feel LESS safe when the driver wears a mask even though it is in compliance with Uber (or Lyft) stated policy.
When i am driving again I hope i never get you in my car. We drivers are required to wear masks or we can be suspended from driving. You giving us 4 stars for following the rules and keeping you safe is idiotic. Stop being foolish and only thinking of yourself.
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 10:39 am
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It baffles me that you would not only not consider wearing a mask yourself, but penalize someone else who wears one not only to follow their company's stated policy but to protect YOU. If you are among the (far too many) inconsiderate humans who feel that your personal prerogative overrules the safety and welfare of the rest of the public, you should find other ways to get around, or better yet stay home. Your perspective is selfish to the point of endangering others, and people like you are the reason this virus is as out of control as it still is. I don't normally wish ill of others, but I take special joy in hearing stories about jerks like you who catch the disease and suddenly figure out just how serious it is.
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 10:50 am
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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
What I plan to do is wear the mask. Put the mask on JUST before I get in the car. But I plan to rate any driver who does comply with the mask policy no greater than four (4) stars. If asked for feedback I'll say that I feel LESS safe when the driver wears a mask even though it is in compliance with Uber (or Lyft) stated policy.
Please describe in what way the driver wearing a mask makes you feel less safe.
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 11:01 am
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Cool Amen to that!

Originally Posted by neo_781
Why take out your frustration/beef/stance on someone just trying to make a living and following its employers policies? If you have a real issue and think it is a safety concern (or whatever) you should air that issue with Uber/Lyft or vote with your wallet and take your business elsewhere. Otherwise I think its a very passive aggressive way to possibly punish someone that is probably already suffering financially from this pandemic. Please reconsider (or just don't rate a driver at all).
So well said. People wear masks more to protect “others” from catching Covid, than from protecting themselves. Until a vaccine is out for everyone, people who are elderly, or more sensitive are at risk of dying if they catch it. If people want to not wear masks, it’s their choice, just stay away from me and my family!!!
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 1:03 pm
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So well said. People wear masks more to protect “others” from catching Covid, than from protecting themselves. Until a vaccine is out for everyone, people who are elderly, or more sensitive are at risk of dying if they catch it. If people want to not wear masks, it’s their choice, just stay away from me and my family!!!
Wearing a mask works both ways ...protects you and others you come in contact with. People who choose not to wear a mask should all be isolated together and only be allowed to have contact with non-mask wearers. Non-mask wearers will put on a mask just to gain entrance to a restaurant or store and immediately remove it when they are inside. When someone approaches without a mask I give move as far away as possible and treat them like they have the Bubonic plague. I put up my hand and yell "don't come near". Anyone who refuses to wear a mask is a carrier trying to infect others and I will do what ever is necessary to keep them away and don't care if they know it.

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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 1:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Anyone have recent experiences with Uber and/or Lyft especially since the new mask and back seat requirements came into effect? I wonder if a face shield instead of an actual mask would be accepted? And how much do the windows have to be rolled down? Would just cracking the windows be acceptable? I have not taken Uber or Lyft since 9th March 2020 when I returned home from my last Tour of Duty. But when I go back to work I'm positive I'll need to use Uber or Lyft at some point.

Those who are pro-mask are no doubt satisfied about their policy. Those of you who are anti-mask have you tried any pushback in a way that would not risk getting you kicked off the platform?
I think the best is to simply wear a loose cotton mask and keep the nose clear. I'm asthmatic and find a 'normal' mask stifling and hard to use in any physical activity so this is what I do in those moments when there is no choice to not wear a mask.

Off-topic there does not seem to be any convergence of scientific views on the benefits of masks (WHO itself did a U-turn earlier this month after months of posting on their site that there were no benefits in wearing one). And even if there is, there is simply no way to guarantee everyone wears an effective mask (most people wear little more than a surgical mask which is known to do nothing). Lastly wearing a mask is uncomfortable and impractical for people like me who have a breathing difficulty doing physical exertion in the best of times.
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 3:04 pm
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Originally Posted by humu
So well said. People wear masks more to protect others from catching Covid, than from protecting themselves. Until a vaccine is out for everyone, people who are elderly, or more sensitive are at risk of dying if they catch it. If people want to not wear masks, its their choice, just stay the fu*k away from me and my family!!!
Actually you are incorrect. Studies are now showing that "wearing can cut your risk down 30 - 50 % (due to size of droplets)
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 3:36 pm
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Originally Posted by innesst
Please describe in what way the driver wearing a mask makes you feel less safe.
Driver wears mask passes out crashes. Like one guy in New Jersey did.
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 3:38 pm
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Originally Posted by 1jvernie
Wearing a mask works both ways ...protects you and others you come in contact with. People who choose not to wear a mask should all be isolated together and only be allowed to have contact with non-mask wearers. Non-mask wearers will put on a mask just to gain entrance to a restaurant or store and immediately remove it when they are inside. When someone approaches without a mask I give move as far away as possible and treat them like they have the Bubonic plague. I put up my hand and yell "don't come near". Anyone who refuses to wear a mask is a carrier trying to infect others and I will do what ever is necessary to keep them away and don't care if they know it.
You're assuming the non mask wearer is "guilty" of having C19 in the first place.
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 3:46 pm
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Originally Posted by marksue
When i am driving again I hope i never get you in my car. We drivers are required to wear masks or we can be suspended from driving. You giving us 4 stars for following the rules and keeping you safe is idiotic. Stop being foolish and only thinking of yourself.
Doing the four stars is countervailing pressure and pushback against the mask policy. I guess collateral damage just like there is tremendous collateral damage from the government ordered lockdowns. If I was able to reach out to Uber/Lyft with my concerns and questions BEFORE requesting a ride and get questions and concerns addressed by someone in customer service then the pushback as I described may not be necessary.

Furthermore I consider the rating system at least with Uber (not so sure about Lyft) of 1 to 5 stars with only 5 being satisfactory to be perverse. I think 5 should be outstanding/excellent, 4 very good/superior 3 satisfactory/average 2 subpar/less than satisfactory 1 totally unsatisfactory/major fail. Sort of like equivalent to grades in school. In school, especially college students are not normally put on academic probation unless their grade point average drops below a "C". And then the student is given so much time to improve. I think Uber (and Lyft) should adopt the same mindset and not consider anything below top score to be unsatisfactory and worthy of termination.

I wonder is it possible for a rider to simply decline to rate the driver?
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