Radisson Rewards Program Major Devaluation 2023 Discussion [non Americas]
Oct 20, 2022, 7:33 am
#61
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Wiesbaden, Germany
Programs: RadissonRewards Platinum
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It also doesn't seem to make any difference whether Radisson would have announced the change to the program earlier, as rewards bookings that have already been made will not be honored and converted to the new system. For a booking over New Year's Eve, which I made in May with the Rewards Saver promotion, I am now supposed to pay the full points and an additional EUR 1200 ... for a booking in November, the full points and EUR 80.
Oct 20, 2022, 1:47 pm
#62
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 628
It also doesn't seem to make any difference whether Radisson would have announced the change to the program earlier, as rewards bookings that have already been made will not be honored and converted to the new system. For a booking over New Year's Eve, which I made in May with the Rewards Saver promotion, I am now supposed to pay the full points and an additional EUR 1200 ... for a booking in November, the full points and EUR 80.
Oct 20, 2022, 2:12 pm
#63
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: CT/ Germany - Ich spreche deutsch
Programs: UA 1K, Bonvoy LTTE, HH Dia, HY Expl
Posts: 4,657
It also doesn't seem to make any difference whether Radisson would have announced the change to the program earlier, as rewards bookings that have already been made will not be honored and converted to the new system. For a booking over New Year's Eve, which I made in May with the Rewards Saver promotion, I am now supposed to pay the full points and an additional EUR 1200 ... for a booking in November, the full points and EUR 80.
At this point one has to wonder if they are trying to kill the program altogether.
Oct 20, 2022, 2:13 pm
#64
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Location: Florida
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Well, finished the remaining transfer and leaving 2 pts at EMEA so the account would take transfer in IF that last thru good part of 2023. Dont have any use for it this year. The IHG pts are much better - better hotel options, lower redemption cost, and so much easier to accumulate.
Oct 20, 2022, 8:35 pm
#65
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Location: Pacific Northwest
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I have 57k left in the non Americas program that I will repatriate, and then I am going to try to find a semi decent redemption for my 400k points. Any recommendation for a beach resort somewhere in the Americas that isn’t terrible? Florida seems to mostly have CI&S properties.
Oct 21, 2022, 4:50 am
#67
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: VIE
Programs: SAS EBS / *A Silver, Hilton Diamond, Radisson VIP, IHG Platinum Ambassador
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It also doesn't seem to make any difference whether Radisson would have announced the change to the program earlier, as rewards bookings that have already been made will not be honored and converted to the new system. For a booking over New Year's Eve, which I made in May with the Rewards Saver promotion, I am now supposed to pay the full points and an additional EUR 1200 ... for a booking in November, the full points and EUR 80.
As I don't visit Americas at all, I don't see any other option than to spend my points and say goodbye to Radisson (except few properties which I really like and am happy to choose even without perks).
I was considering moving the points to RR Americas, hoping that one day I'll be able to use them for Choice hotels in Europe after Radisson Americas moves to Choice, but that's too speculative and there's no guarantee that the value will be better.
Oct 21, 2022, 4:53 am
#68
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: VIE
Programs: SAS EBS / *A Silver, Hilton Diamond, Radisson VIP, IHG Platinum Ambassador
Posts: 3,775
Apparantely, if you change your Discount Booster settings, you will be blocked from booking a hotel for 48 hours. I keep getting the following error: "The selection was not possible because this profile was updated less than 48 hours ago". What the...?
They really just don't want people to stay with them. At this point I just hope that my favourite hotels will start reflagging and joining another chain soon.
They really just don't want people to stay with them. At this point I just hope that my favourite hotels will start reflagging and joining another chain soon.
Oct 21, 2022, 8:00 am
#69
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Even if they had a nice property in the perfect location for a competitive price somewhere I wanted to go, I would just book through hotels.com and earn their 10% in rewards.
Oct 21, 2022, 11:41 am
#70
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,710
Apparantely, if you change your Discount Booster settings, you will be blocked from booking a hotel for 48 hours. I keep getting the following error: "The selection was not possible because this profile was updated less than 48 hours ago". What the...?
They really just don't want people to stay with them. At this point I just hope that my favourite hotels will start reflagging and joining another chain soon.
They really just don't want people to stay with them. At this point I just hope that my favourite hotels will start reflagging and joining another chain soon.
Last edited by 36902BRF; Oct 21, 2022 at 11:46 am
Oct 21, 2022, 1:15 pm
#71
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It also doesn't seem to make any difference whether Radisson would have announced the change to the program earlier, as rewards bookings that have already been made will not be honored and converted to the new system. For a booking over New Year's Eve, which I made in May with the Rewards Saver promotion, I am now supposed to pay the full points and an additional EUR 1200 ... for a booking in November, the full points and EUR 80.
Amateur hour? It seems like Radisson EMEA is being sloppy in so many ways with this transition.
Oct 22, 2022, 12:08 am
#72
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 628
It also doesn't seem to make any difference whether Radisson would have announced the change to the program earlier, as rewards bookings that have already been made will not be honored and converted to the new system. For a booking over New Year's Eve, which I made in May with the Rewards Saver promotion, I am now supposed to pay the full points and an additional EUR 1200 ... for a booking in November, the full points and EUR 80.
Oct 22, 2022, 6:01 am
#73
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: HH Diamond
Posts: 695
Radisson (EMEA) is owned by Chinese state owned Jin Jiang
Since the Chinese state took over Radisson through Jin Jiang it was a pretty much dead brand to me, with the changed scheme now and no prewarning they have made it even easier for me to now jump completely.
Oct 22, 2022, 7:15 am
#74
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: CT/ Germany - Ich spreche deutsch
Programs: UA 1K, Bonvoy LTTE, HH Dia, HY Expl
Posts: 4,657
The Chinese state owns about 50% of all businesses in China so you might want to purge all your electronics and check the country of origin on virtually everything in your house if this is the case. As for the program changes….that’s another discussion and the reason we are here.
Oct 22, 2022, 12:45 pm
#75
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And perhaps the changes at Radisson are a direct result of a Chinese state-run business not having a lot of business sense.