Oneworld
Mar 1, 2002 | 5:46 am
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Oneworld
The Swiss tabloid "Blick" writes today that Swiss has decided to join Oneworld.
http://www.blick.ch/PB2G/PB2GA/pb2ga.htm?snr=25487
http://www.blick.ch/PB2G/PB2GA/pb2ga.htm?snr=25487
Mar 1, 2002 | 3:57 pm
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Several other newspapers were reporting this as well. Hope it's true!
But what would this mean for Qualiflyer??
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But what would this mean for Qualiflyer??
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Mar 1, 2002 | 6:36 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Redhead:
But what would this mean for Qualiflyer??
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But what would this mean for Qualiflyer??
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Mar 2, 2002 | 1:49 am
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The Qualiflyer program could still 'survice' (with some rules changed/adapted). Most one-world-members have their own Frequent-Flier programs.
Mar 2, 2002 | 7:21 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Rudi:
The Qualiflyer program could still 'survice' (with some rules changed/adapted). Most one-world-members have their own Frequent-Flier programs.</font>
The Qualiflyer program could still 'survice' (with some rules changed/adapted). Most one-world-members have their own Frequent-Flier programs.</font>
Mar 2, 2002 | 5:12 pm
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I still think that Qualiflyer is the superior programme, in terms of collecting miles and what you can do with free tickets. It will be interesting to see what happens, but lets not jump to conclusions. No official announcement has yet been made.
Mar 12, 2002 | 2:07 pm
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The Teletext pages of Swiss TV (SF1) said today:
"The president of the new airline SWISS, Pieter Bouw, indicated in his presentation in Zurich that SWISS could join Oneworld, the airline alliance headed by BA and AA."
"The president of the new airline SWISS, Pieter Bouw, indicated in his presentation in Zurich that SWISS could join Oneworld, the airline alliance headed by BA and AA."
Mar 12, 2002 | 2:22 pm
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... and Basler Zeitung further about Oneworld:
"Bouw indicated also that Swiss could select [...] Oneworld. He did not want to call the partner by name, but his description of the advantages and drawbacks of such an alliance pointed at Oneworld. The chances for a cooperation between Swiss and [...] Star Alliance are smaller than the possibility to work together with Air France/SkyTeam or Oneworld, Bouw said. Not only the European but also the US partner has a role in the alliance issue. In this respect AA offers the greatest potential for a cooperation."
(Basler Zeitung website 12 March)
See also the March 12 posting http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum83/HTML/000890.html by Terenz
[This message has been edited by timol (edited 03-12-2002).]
"Bouw indicated also that Swiss could select [...] Oneworld. He did not want to call the partner by name, but his description of the advantages and drawbacks of such an alliance pointed at Oneworld. The chances for a cooperation between Swiss and [...] Star Alliance are smaller than the possibility to work together with Air France/SkyTeam or Oneworld, Bouw said. Not only the European but also the US partner has a role in the alliance issue. In this respect AA offers the greatest potential for a cooperation."
(Basler Zeitung website 12 March)
See also the March 12 posting http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum83/HTML/000890.html by Terenz
[This message has been edited by timol (edited 03-12-2002).]
Mar 12, 2002 | 2:31 pm
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One of the major advantages of the large alliances are the savings the airlines get from pooling resources. Good examples of this are the soon to be opened OW lounge at LAX and the OW CTO/check in counters at EZE.
Mar 12, 2002 | 4:43 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Hagbard Viking:
Yes, but the other 1W members don't have FFP's that they share with a bunch of other airlines who are not members of 1W.</font>
Yes, but the other 1W members don't have FFP's that they share with a bunch of other airlines who are not members of 1W.</font>
To me, being part of OW would be a big advantage for Swiss and Qualiflyer (needless to say qualiflyer members as well), * not a very intelligent choice considering LH and OS. And Swiss, please don't do your first mistake (and the last one I'm afraid) by joining SkyTeam !
Mar 13, 2002 | 12:01 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Th@LYS:
Not sure it's a relevant point. For instance, you can yet accrue miles on SR and ASIANA if you've enrolled into AsiaMiles (CX FFP), and on SR if you're part of AAdvantage on certain routes (indeed good reasons for SR to join OW). Plus members of BA ExClub too can accrue miles on some exotic airlines not members of OW.
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Not sure it's a relevant point. For instance, you can yet accrue miles on SR and ASIANA if you've enrolled into AsiaMiles (CX FFP), and on SR if you're part of AAdvantage on certain routes (indeed good reasons for SR to join OW). Plus members of BA ExClub too can accrue miles on some exotic airlines not members of OW.
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Mar 13, 2002 | 4:46 am
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if SWISS will withdraw from Qualiflyer (they might - yes) than it is reasonable and probable, that they will, for a limited time, offer a conversion of miles and status.
Mar 13, 2002 | 6:50 am
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I hope that they join with one og the three groupings soon. Since SN and LX withdrew from my local airport (EDI) I have to fly elsewhere before using my Qualiflyer points.
As AF, BA, BD and LH all fly from EDI, I don't really mind which although if they go one world I bet you wont be able to earn points on BA cheap fares.
Stephen
As AF, BA, BD and LH all fly from EDI, I don't really mind which although if they go one world I bet you wont be able to earn points on BA cheap fares.
Stephen
Mar 13, 2002 | 2:48 pm
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But if SWISS withdraw from Qualiflyer, then surely Qualiflyer will be grounded?
Mar 14, 2002 | 12:30 am
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Qualiflyer would be done if SWISS withdrew. But honestly: all I care about are my miles. As long as they let you take your miles to the new FF program (that has a reasonable number of partners), that's fine with me. They would be stupid to make all those frequent flyers mad.