QR J vs CX J?
Jun 17, 2019, 12:04 am
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Ah ok. With a third flight that makes cx a bit less obvious plus you’d have a change of terminal at lhr. I still wouldn’t pay £300 extra to go qr myself but if the difference was minimal I would. In truth, I’d likely choose a departure point with nonstop flights even if downgrading to cx pe to keep fares constant (though I’m not much of a pe person myself). Or consider AY via HEL likely to be smoother and cheap.
Jun 18, 2019, 12:43 am
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After looking at the likelihood of Q suites on the 818 route (roughly 1/3 have swapped out in the past 6 weeks) we decided the plan was probably too ambitious.
Unfortunately CX J is just a not an attractive option for the OH with the same seat as AA 77Ws, so we decided to look into other options (including the daylight robbery of one way F fares).
No idea how it escaped me the first time round but QR 164 (787) and 816 (hopefully Q suites) seems like the best option. Only 1.45 hr connection in DOH means a shorter overall trip than CX and the premium is a small price to pay if it avoids the OH asking me repeatedly how much we paid for these uncomfortable seats again!
Thanks again for the responses - time to set up reminders on EF and keep our fingers crossed!
Unfortunately CX J is just a not an attractive option for the OH with the same seat as AA 77Ws, so we decided to look into other options (including the daylight robbery of one way F fares).
No idea how it escaped me the first time round but QR 164 (787) and 816 (hopefully Q suites) seems like the best option. Only 1.45 hr connection in DOH means a shorter overall trip than CX and the premium is a small price to pay if it avoids the OH asking me repeatedly how much we paid for these uncomfortable seats again!
Thanks again for the responses - time to set up reminders on EF and keep our fingers crossed!
Jun 18, 2019, 2:40 am
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After looking at the likelihood of Q suites on the 818 route (roughly 1/3 have swapped out in the past 6 weeks) we decided the plan was probably too ambitious.
Unfortunately CX J is just a not an attractive option for the OH with the same seat as AA 77Ws, so we decided to look into other options (including the daylight robbery of one way F fares).
No idea how it escaped me the first time round but QR 164 (787) and 816 (hopefully Q suites) seems like the best option. Only 1.45 hr connection in DOH means a shorter overall trip than CX and the premium is a small price to pay if it avoids the OH asking me repeatedly how much we paid for these uncomfortable seats again!
Thanks again for the responses - time to set up reminders on EF and keep our fingers crossed!
Unfortunately CX J is just a not an attractive option for the OH with the same seat as AA 77Ws, so we decided to look into other options (including the daylight robbery of one way F fares).
No idea how it escaped me the first time round but QR 164 (787) and 816 (hopefully Q suites) seems like the best option. Only 1.45 hr connection in DOH means a shorter overall trip than CX and the premium is a small price to pay if it avoids the OH asking me repeatedly how much we paid for these uncomfortable seats again!
Thanks again for the responses - time to set up reminders on EF and keep our fingers crossed!
Jun 18, 2019, 3:16 am
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What is it your OH finds uncomfortable about AA's 77W J seats? If it's the firmness, Qsuites are almost exactly the same (i.e. towards the very firm end of aircraft seats). If it's the level of personal space, again there is really no more space in Qsuites than in AA's 77W, both are very good for J but neither will provide you with the level of personal space in F. Your QR164 flight will actually be on a very similar seat to AA's 77W but with notably less privacy traded off for better seat padding.
The last trip I did on QR ended up having 1 x 787, 2 x QS, 1 x A380 so got a great feel in terms of comparison. Very much enjoyed the 787 but never really settled on the A380 probably because of the cabin size (too many variable such as windows being opened/closed, children being sat nearby etc).
Jun 18, 2019, 3:50 am
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I don't believe it was the firmness. IIRC there was a lump in the bottom half of the seat which meant there wasn't a comfortable way of working/sleeping in his preferred position (not fully flat, sort of in a Z position). Bit of a shame as I'd been looking forward to trying AA and enjoyed the flight whereas he was delighted that we were on BA metal on the way back.. Go figure! I count myself lucky that I can sleep pretty easily when I want to so I just take his word for it
The last trip I did on QR ended up having 1 x 787, 2 x QS, 1 x A380 so got a great feel in terms of comparison. Very much enjoyed the 787 but never really settled on the A380 probably because of the cabin size (too many variable such as windows being opened/closed, children being sat nearby etc).
The last trip I did on QR ended up having 1 x 787, 2 x QS, 1 x A380 so got a great feel in terms of comparison. Very much enjoyed the 787 but never really settled on the A380 probably because of the cabin size (too many variable such as windows being opened/closed, children being sat nearby etc).
Seat are indeed identical on 787 and A380, but as you noticed the cabin has a very different feel! I've only flown J on the A380 a couple of times, but I've always spent as much of the flight as possible either in the bar or sleeping because I agree there's something just too open and exposed about the large A380 J cabin.
Jun 19, 2019, 12:08 am
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Looking at booking a flight ex-EU to HKG and currently narrowed it down to either CX or QR.
The CX flight is both shorter (3 hour vs 11 hour transit) and cheaper (~£300pp), which seems like an easy win but I do very much enjoy a good Qsuite and they seem quite reliable on this route (QR 162 & 818).
Having discussed the options with the OH (would be his first time on QR) we are heavily considering QR and making a trip of it by having a wander into Doha during the transit. As the transit is less than 12 hours I don't believe we qualify for the hotel offering in Doha, although not a big issue.
Neither of us have flown CX J previously either, partly because the OH does not enjoy the AA J seat at all and I understand the CX seat is similar, if not less comfortable. CX would be via LHR so lounges aren't really a consideration here as both AM and T3 F lounges are lovely.
So FT, am I going mad to pay more for a longer routing to enjoy the Qsuite as a couple or is the side trip to Doha worth it?
The CX flight is both shorter (3 hour vs 11 hour transit) and cheaper (~£300pp), which seems like an easy win but I do very much enjoy a good Qsuite and they seem quite reliable on this route (QR 162 & 818).
Having discussed the options with the OH (would be his first time on QR) we are heavily considering QR and making a trip of it by having a wander into Doha during the transit. As the transit is less than 12 hours I don't believe we qualify for the hotel offering in Doha, although not a big issue.
Neither of us have flown CX J previously either, partly because the OH does not enjoy the AA J seat at all and I understand the CX seat is similar, if not less comfortable. CX would be via LHR so lounges aren't really a consideration here as both AM and T3 F lounges are lovely.
So FT, am I going mad to pay more for a longer routing to enjoy the Qsuite as a couple or is the side trip to Doha worth it?
Jun 19, 2019, 5:30 am
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As you noted above, there can be shorter connections on QR with three daily CPH (maybe except Tuesday) and two daily HKG.
Being very experienced with both CX and QR J, I find the hard product clearly superior on QR, especially if you are a couple. I like the old 77W for couple; huge space, great TV, romantic to seat next to each other. Not as good as Qsuite E&F, but far better than CX center seats. Soft product is vastly superior on QR.
With QR you are on longhaul J all the way. WIth CX, you start with CE on the first leg, then have to change terminal. The worst is coming back, as changing terminal then dreadful BA CE after a 12h flight is really unpleasant.
Being very experienced with both CX and QR J, I find the hard product clearly superior on QR, especially if you are a couple. I like the old 77W for couple; huge space, great TV, romantic to seat next to each other. Not as good as Qsuite E&F, but far better than CX center seats. Soft product is vastly superior on QR.
With QR you are on longhaul J all the way. WIth CX, you start with CE on the first leg, then have to change terminal. The worst is coming back, as changing terminal then dreadful BA CE after a 12h flight is really unpleasant.