AAB threatens to leave oneworld
Oct 26, 2018, 6:17 am
#31
Join Date: May 2018
Location: London
Programs: BA - Gold
Posts: 93
It seems people tend to think this is all a bit of a bluff. If it isn't though is there any precedent for how long it would take and what would happen for flights booked pre-exit announcement but occurring after the actual exit? If no precedent, what are peoples thoughts?
Thanks all.
Thanks all.
Oct 26, 2018, 1:55 pm
#34
Join Date: Jan 2017
Programs: qr
Posts: 262
I also hate his comb over , but I do rather like him - he is a character and makes me laugh with his threats and tantrums . Yes he is a bit of a “u Turner” and comes out with some very un pc remarks but ultimately I think he is only trying to do the best for his airline . However he needs to factor in if leaving OW will ultimately have an adverse effect on his business and desire to grow despite all the challenges the blockade has brought. I suspect it’s hot air and QR will firmly remain as part of OW.
Oct 26, 2018, 10:24 pm
#35
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: BOS/UTH
Programs: AA LT PLT; QR GLD; Bonvoy LT TIT
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OTOH his strategy was to become a global player for all air travel with DOH as a hub and he's done that. EK did it successfully without joining an alliance, and QR is now firmly entrenched. I have no idea if he wants to or if he really will, but he has a perfectly viable business without OW if he goes that route.
Oct 27, 2018, 4:43 am
#36
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OTOH his strategy was to become a global player for all air travel with DOH as a hub and he's done that. EK did it successfully without joining an alliance, and QR is now firmly entrenched. I have no idea if he wants to or if he really will, but he has a perfectly viable business without OW if he goes that route.
Oct 27, 2018, 6:49 am
#37
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OTOH his strategy was to become a global player for all air travel with DOH as a hub and he's done that. EK did it successfully without joining an alliance, and QR is now firmly entrenched. I have no idea if he wants to or if he really will, but he has a perfectly viable business without OW if he goes that route.
A lot of this forum focusses on the glamour routes; but carrying passengers on itineraries such as those between Indonesia, Malaysia and RSA; India and the other Gulf states, were the bead and butter of the airline.
The costs of alliance membership may be high, but the benefits that accrue from traffic funnelled through strong partners together with indirect bennies gained through alliance members' frequent flyer programmes count for something. I, and probably many others, wouldn't be on QR nearly so much if it were not for the tier point and avios dropping into my BAEC account, and the parallel status I enjoy on QR flights.
I'm guessing those benefits haven't decreased in significance since the blockade was imposed.
Nov 2, 2018, 5:32 pm
#38
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: BWI
Posts: 7,390
Now Willie Walsh went on record saying he thinks its highly likely that QR will leave OneWorld... Will be disappointing if this does happen.
Walsh: Qatar Airways ?highly likely? to leave oneworld | Airlines content from ATWOnline
Walsh: Qatar Airways ?highly likely? to leave oneworld | Airlines content from ATWOnline
Nov 3, 2018, 2:11 pm
#39
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: South East, UK
Programs: BA Gold / GfL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,432
OTOH his strategy was to become a global player for all air travel with DOH as a hub and he's done that. EK did it successfully without joining an alliance, and QR is now firmly entrenched. I have no idea if he wants to or if he really will, but he has a perfectly viable business without OW if he goes that route.
However, I could see a viable scenario whereby QR would leave OW, but establish partner status with selected OW and/or other airlines.
Nov 4, 2018, 6:15 am
#40
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX Diamond (OW Emerald), former SQ Krisflyer Gold
Posts: 2,527
I fly on QR J because it's OW. The moment that QR drops out of OW is the moment that I stop buying QR J tickets and refund the issued tickets I have (depending on the exit date).
Having the best J in the world still won't make me fly QR if it drops out of OW. I'd suck it up and fly AY (ugh...) instead.
Having the best J in the world still won't make me fly QR if it drops out of OW. I'd suck it up and fly AY (ugh...) instead.
Nov 4, 2018, 12:27 pm
#41
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: BRS
Programs: BA Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 4,993
Given BA has a relationship with QR, I would hazard a guess that even if QR did leave OW the two airlines would retain a close relationship which would pretty much mean business as normal for BAEC status hunters.
Nov 4, 2018, 12:37 pm
#42
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,754
Well, I am looking forward to my first J trip on QR later this year. A ticket I would never have purchased had it not meant me crediting my BAEC with the massive TPs I'll get. If QR move on then it will most likely be my last trip with them unfortunately. I'll have to stick with OW carriers.
Nov 4, 2018, 12:39 pm
#43
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Homeless
Programs: Hyatt Glob; Hilton Dia; Marriott AMB; Accor Dia; IHG Dia Amb; GHA Tit
Posts: 4,838
Not that I needed another reason to credit miles to another program than QRPC, but now it's clear that in 2019 I will harvest the OW benefits of QR Platinum but credit somewhere else and then I am done. I won't be against booking with QR in the future, but given that I rarely do with EK and that I did not book QR before QR joined OW, I will be disappointed but will let QR go.
Nov 4, 2018, 12:57 pm
#44
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 776
Well technically they can do that for almost 1000 years with their piggy bank alone, ndisregarding any further income. But of course there is a very big difference between "can" and "will".
Nov 4, 2018, 6:30 pm
#45
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I fly on QR J because it's OW. The moment that QR drops out of OW is the moment that I stop buying QR J tickets and refund the issued tickets I have (depending on the exit date).
Having the best J in the world still won't make me fly QR if it drops out of OW. I'd suck it up and fly AY (ugh...) instead.
Having the best J in the world still won't make me fly QR if it drops out of OW. I'd suck it up and fly AY (ugh...) instead.