The Q Suite Master Thread
 

We all know a new J seat is coming in March, so please keep all discussion within this thread.

The latest information can be found here - https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...d-concourse-f/

M

I guess no chance of it being in the AKL serving 777s before Easter?! :)

Out of curiosity, why do they not just stick with the current 787/350 (very good) reverse herringbone into the 777? I can't help but feel that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. IMO it will be hard to come up with a better design than the current 350 seat.

Has there been any clues as to the layout at all? I would imagine the only seat that comes close to being an improvement is the JL J seat, I believe Oman Air have it as well. Or are we talking about a completely new design?

On another note, I will miss the 777 J seat, some of my best plane sleeps have come on those seats, and they are second to none when you have nobody beside you.

+1 Have also had the best sleep on the 777.

Morgo absolutely no chance!
AKL is scheduled to have the B777-200LR.
ITB, where the seat is to be launched first opens 8 March.
It will take some time to deliver and then the B777-300s will be retrofitted at the rate of 2-3 per month. There are 34 of them. Then other aircraft types will be considered and retro filtted after an, as yet, unknown plan.
It is thought that all widebodied aircraft that are delivered to QR after 8th. March will have the new seats. Unfortunately no B777-200s are on order at the moment.
I can understand that you cannot find this information on the forum because it is spread across at least TEN different threads with names such as "A350 vs. 77L - worth going out of my way for?" and "Super Business seat"!

QR appears to be rolling out Al Baker's new improved J bit by bit. As for new seats, seems only a few ways to go:

1. Reverse herringbone 1-2-1 adopted by AA, CX, AC, BR and a number of other 777 operators, though this has width limitations with the A330 cabin where it becomes 1-1-1, thus reducing capacity considerably. This would be consistent with the 787 and A350 product.
2. Staggered "cabins" like LX and AC with a 1-2-1/2-1-2 configuration, again not sure how it would work on the A330. AA uses a variant of this but in all 1-2-1 (though pseudo 2-2-2 as it offers all aisle access).
3. Compact "cabins" like UA has just introduced and BA is adopting, and IIRC NH, OZ and JL have been flying, and is a high-density compromise with 2-4-2 but all-aisle access (pseudo 1-2-1)
4. Wide bench ala SQ in 1-2-1 on the 777, would fit the A330 with slightly less width than SQ's version.

The options for the 777 fleet are considerable, but the A330 has limitations (as the 767 had throughout its career when most carriers squeezed 2-2-2 premium seating while others adopted 2-1-2/1-2-2/2-2-1 variants) due to a narrower cabin.

Suppose we can all speculate. Though what might make a useful discussion while we await "the decision of the judges" is people posting their preferred and practical option based on flying other types of new-gen J seats on other carriers and bearing in mind the A330 limitations.

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You're very helpfully moving relevant information into this thread as insinuated in the first post

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Seconded...send Zol and I the threads, and we'll merge them.

M

The new seat is going into the A350 too - a brand new plane? I am assuming just the new A350s as they get delivered, not the current ones being replaced?

Yes I'm confused why they would be replacing the A350 seats. Maybe it's just an evolution? Or is it the CEO hyperbolising again?

Perhaps the new frames will get the new seat?

Do I understand correctly, that it's rather not possible to experience new J hard product on route to AKL in 2017?
As for now, which type of seat do they have on B777 operating to AKL? Is it like in this http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...ess-class-777/ review?

tropikey yes that is the B/E MiniPod seat that is currently installed on all B777s.
No one can give you a time for when the new seats will appear on the AKL route. The 34 773s are scheduled to take 12-17 months to retrofit with a possible start date in June. After that the most logical aircraft type would be the B772s.
Based on the known information my guess would be that AKL should see the new seats in 18-24 months.

thanks a lot for explanation :-) It will help me with decision, when to fly. If I decide to fly before May, I might add 20k additional qmiles (promo regarding flights to AKL). Together with 5x qmiles which are offered today only, it would give me huge amount of qmiles (I haven't found any provision stating that these two offers can't be combined).

I have one more question regarding this matter. What do think about this seat from the perspective of such a long flight (one of the longest, isn't)? Is this comfortable enough to survive such flight?

Sorry to go off topic, but you should maybe check out this thread before banking on 5x miles:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/qatar-airways-privilege-club/1813833-qmiles-x2-x3-x6.html

Thank you very much. Well, in such case, I don't need to be in rush and I can book flight for period later this year.

As i remember recently there was an order for 10 more 777-300 Er. Can someone tell me when the delivery starts?

The new 77W start deliveries in the second half 2017. The 787-9 starts deliveries later in 2018.

in relation to my previous posts regarding DOH-AKL flights on B772, I'd like to mention only that I ended up with WAW-DOH-PVG in J in late October and return in beginning of November.
As far as I understand, there's a chance that flights on route DOH-PVG-DOH will be equipped with new J seats (although, of course, I know it's impossible to predict it now).
On basis of what factors do they decide which routes will be serviced by planes with new seats? How high (or low) is possibility that PVG will be one of first airports to receive new J seats?

In my opion QR will start with premium routes like Doha-London,Doha-Paris and Doha-New York. After most probably turn will come to PEK and PVG. So the possibility is quite high. Also there is small chance that WAW may get A350 by october

Thanks for good news :-)
WAW-DOH in A350 would be great! I haven't heard about it earlier. We'll see...

@N1 Rotate-Seems they are planning to open so many routes if they are getting 787-9 from 2018. What do you think how they are going to solve problem with being short of 777-200 LR? Because cities like Santiago and Las Vegas can be served only with 777-200. They should have ordered 777-200 LR instead of 777-300 ER

The 8 March 2017 now appears to be confirmed as the launch date according to http://www.qatarairways.com/english_...lease_itb_eng1.

Does anyone know the contents of the patents?

Would DOH-SIN (A350) (and v.v.) get the new J seats in time for my October flights (flying LAX-DOH-SIN v.v.)?

fgirard welcome to the QR forum.

According to the known plans the B777s will be the first aircraft type to be retrofitted with the new seats at the rate of two or three a month.
New aircraft deliveries after 8 March are also supposed to be delivered with the new seat.
A small number of A350s are due to be delivered this year supposedly with the new seat. If they will be used on DOH-SIN is not known.

So the answer to your question is NO ONE KNOWS!

Thanks for the welcome. :)

So I'll know if the a/c has the new seat once boarded in DOH. :D :p

ETA: It took forever for UA to a) announce that they were developing a new C product and b) show us all the design of the seat.

You'll probably have quite decent chances of getting it. IIRC QR gets another 6 or 7 A350 over the next 6 months or so and a dozen or so until the end of the year. If they are all delivered with the new business class, you'll probably have better odds, than people flying the 777 and hoping for a retrofit.

Chicago could be a first to get the new business class. Then maybe JFK?

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Not necessarily given that their A350s fly to lots of destinations. I would imagine that flying the A350 with the Super C only between DOH and NA is going to be tricky schedule-wise.

I believe that that is the only aircraft currently in QR's fleet which can make the flight nonstop.

I mean of all the B773, NA destinations have the highest chance? ORD especially, the home of Boeing?

Does anybody know who is manufacturing the seats? Did a quick patent search and nothing comes back for qatar airways.

They confirmed that at least one of my flights to HND from BRU (all A350) in October will have the new seats.









They didn't. But you were hopeful for a moment, right?

I second the question.

I will be sad to see the 777 seats go.

What are the chances that the recently delivered A350-900 is already equipped with the new product? According to airfleets it was delivered two days ago. With the ITB close, this seems like an opportunity for QR to gloat a little with a shiny, new airplane and a shiny, new C. :D

Very unlikely - AAB will wait until ITB to launch the product.

With a new EK F product also being launched at the show, it promises to be a great show.

M

The ITB is less than two weeks away. Seems IMO unviable to deliver a plane with the "old C" exactly two weeks before releasing the new product.

If they really wanted to show off, AAB will bring an aircraft with the new configuration. He probably could handle not doing any public flights with A7-ALN for two weeks to get a little more "WOW" effect.

A new level of luxury
 

QR ads for "7 days to we reveal a new level of luxury" started to appear today. Anyone who knows what it is about?

Launch of the new J seat at ITB.

I'm saying that A7-ALN is already equipped with the C class and that it's waiting in DOH to be show to the world. Haven't noticed any flight activity for that bird and it was delivered last Thursday.

Moreover, it's probably best to merge this thread with the existing thread.