Nov 4, 2016, 5:03 am
Last edit by: remdk
Interlining
Interlining, that is multiple carrier journeys, is similar to codeshare journeys and many of the same rules apply (Resolution 302 see the Wiki on Checked baggage allowance for details).
What is my baggage allowance?
The IATA rules use the same Resolution 302 rules as described in the Wiki on Checked baggage allowance. The Most Significant Carrier rules apply but where a carrier has different baggage allowances for different sectors the Most Significant Carrier rules are supplemented by similar Sector rules. Using the Resolution 302 rules find the Most Significant Sector of the most significant carrier and you have your baggage allowance.
Remember that unlike codeshare it is the Operating carrier not the Marketing carrier that is to be used.
Even though it is now outdated looking at http://www.frugalhack.me/2015/03/27/...w-to-use-them/ you can read Youll need to make sure the weights and sizes follow every airlines rules that you plan on interlining the baggage to. This is from early 2015 and IATA have changed the rules since then. But it is still worth thinking about especially if the journey involves a carrier with no free baggage allowance since no free baggage allowance appears to be a weakness in IATA Resolution 302.
Who interlines with who?
KVS publish lists of airlines that interline. An example for UA is shown below. Note this list is just an example and is about three years old and will have changed since then.
ELECTRONIC INTERLINE CARRIER AGREEMENTS-UA
INTERLINE CARRIER CODES
AA - AB - AC - AF - AH - AI - AM - AR - AS - AV
AX - AY - AZ - A3 - A9 - BA - BD - BE - BI - BR
BT - BW - CA - CI - CM - CO - CX - CZ - C5 - DL
EH - EI - EK - EL - EN - ET - EV - EY - FB - FI
FJ - FM - FV - FW - FZ - F9 - GA - GF - G3 - G7
HA - HU - HX - IB - IQ - JJ - JL - JP - JQ - J2
KA - KC - KE - KF - KL - KM - KQ - KS - KU - KX
LA - LG - LH - LO - LP - LR - LW - LX - LY - MD
ME - MF - MH - MI - MK - MQ - MS - MU - NH - NQ
NU - NZ - OA - OH - OK - OM - OO - OS - OU - OZ
PG - PK - PR - PS - PX - PZ - QF - QR - QX - RJ
RO - SA - SK - SN - SQ - SU - SV - S2 - S5 - S7
TA - TG - TK - TP - T0 - UL - UN - UO - UP - US
UX - VA - VK - VN - VS - VW - WF - WM - WP - WS
WY - XE - XF - XJ - XL - ZH - ZK - ZW - 2V - 3M
4C - 4M - 4Q - 7H - 9E - 9K - 9L - 9W
In 2016 Oneworld changed its interlining rules such that airlines are no longer required to interline baggage on separate reservations. Note that it is not forbidden to interline across reservations but it is no longer given that it will be done. Within a reservation it should always be done.This rule was relaxed in 2017 and QR along with several other OW airlines now interline baggage across reservations. See Interlining-separate-pnr-baggage for details.
What if I cannot interline my baggage?
If through checking of baggage is not possible then it needs to be checked in again at some point of the journey. This usually requires that you go through the usual arrival procedures, collect your bags and check-in again. And this in spite of the fact that you already have your onward boarding pass! In some airports the transfer desk can retrieve and relabel your luggage. (DOH, CMB and sometimes BKK). There are probably many more but I do not know which.
Why do airlines dislike interlining?
The carrier that tags the baggage is liable under the Montreal convention for it's transit, handling and return to you throughout the journey. So by offering to interline they are increasing their liability.
Putting pressure on check-in agents to interline where it is not that airlines policy could probably result in the check-in agent ending up in trouble because they did that passenger a "favour".
Thanks to plunet for the 'Why do airlines dislike interlining?' section.
Last updated 29-07-2017.
Originally developed by remdk 04-11-2016.
Interlining, that is multiple carrier journeys, is similar to codeshare journeys and many of the same rules apply (Resolution 302 see the Wiki on Checked baggage allowance for details).
What is my baggage allowance?
The IATA rules use the same Resolution 302 rules as described in the Wiki on Checked baggage allowance. The Most Significant Carrier rules apply but where a carrier has different baggage allowances for different sectors the Most Significant Carrier rules are supplemented by similar Sector rules. Using the Resolution 302 rules find the Most Significant Sector of the most significant carrier and you have your baggage allowance.
Remember that unlike codeshare it is the Operating carrier not the Marketing carrier that is to be used.
Even though it is now outdated looking at http://www.frugalhack.me/2015/03/27/...w-to-use-them/ you can read Youll need to make sure the weights and sizes follow every airlines rules that you plan on interlining the baggage to. This is from early 2015 and IATA have changed the rules since then. But it is still worth thinking about especially if the journey involves a carrier with no free baggage allowance since no free baggage allowance appears to be a weakness in IATA Resolution 302.
Who interlines with who?
KVS publish lists of airlines that interline. An example for UA is shown below. Note this list is just an example and is about three years old and will have changed since then.
ELECTRONIC INTERLINE CARRIER AGREEMENTS-UA
INTERLINE CARRIER CODES
AA - AB - AC - AF - AH - AI - AM - AR - AS - AV
AX - AY - AZ - A3 - A9 - BA - BD - BE - BI - BR
BT - BW - CA - CI - CM - CO - CX - CZ - C5 - DL
EH - EI - EK - EL - EN - ET - EV - EY - FB - FI
FJ - FM - FV - FW - FZ - F9 - GA - GF - G3 - G7
HA - HU - HX - IB - IQ - JJ - JL - JP - JQ - J2
KA - KC - KE - KF - KL - KM - KQ - KS - KU - KX
LA - LG - LH - LO - LP - LR - LW - LX - LY - MD
ME - MF - MH - MI - MK - MQ - MS - MU - NH - NQ
NU - NZ - OA - OH - OK - OM - OO - OS - OU - OZ
PG - PK - PR - PS - PX - PZ - QF - QR - QX - RJ
RO - SA - SK - SN - SQ - SU - SV - S2 - S5 - S7
TA - TG - TK - TP - T0 - UL - UN - UO - UP - US
UX - VA - VK - VN - VS - VW - WF - WM - WP - WS
WY - XE - XF - XJ - XL - ZH - ZK - ZW - 2V - 3M
4C - 4M - 4Q - 7H - 9E - 9K - 9L - 9W
In 2016 Oneworld changed its interlining rules such that airlines are no longer required to interline baggage on separate reservations. Note that it is not forbidden to interline across reservations but it is no longer given that it will be done. Within a reservation it should always be done.This rule was relaxed in 2017 and QR along with several other OW airlines now interline baggage across reservations. See Interlining-separate-pnr-baggage for details.
What if I cannot interline my baggage?
If through checking of baggage is not possible then it needs to be checked in again at some point of the journey. This usually requires that you go through the usual arrival procedures, collect your bags and check-in again. And this in spite of the fact that you already have your onward boarding pass! In some airports the transfer desk can retrieve and relabel your luggage. (DOH, CMB and sometimes BKK). There are probably many more but I do not know which.
Why do airlines dislike interlining?
The carrier that tags the baggage is liable under the Montreal convention for it's transit, handling and return to you throughout the journey. So by offering to interline they are increasing their liability.
Putting pressure on check-in agents to interline where it is not that airlines policy could probably result in the check-in agent ending up in trouble because they did that passenger a "favour".
Thanks to plunet for the 'Why do airlines dislike interlining?' section.
Last updated 29-07-2017.
Originally developed by remdk 04-11-2016.
Interlining
Apr 8, 2017 | 3:18 am
#16
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 3,944
VH-RMD that little piece of vital information (EK flight number) should make me reverse my previous answer since the flight is not operated AND marketed by an OW member. However I have some hope that you will be able to persuade the Al Safwa staff to do so especially if your ticket has a QF flight number.
Good luck, and let us know how it goes.
Good luck, and let us know how it goes.
May 8, 2017 | 11:15 pm
#17
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: OOL/DOH
Programs: QF LTS WP, Avis Pres Club, HH Diam.
Posts: 3,190
Just to follow up;
The delightful agents at the Al Safwa desk at HIA were happy to tag my luggage through to LGW (QR-EK) but no boarding pass.
The delightful agents at First Class desk in LHR were happy to tag my luggage through to DOH (EK-QR) with boarding passes.
These were two tickets on separate PNR.
The tickets were both award tickets and the EK ticket was obtained using QF points but with EK flight numbers.
The delightful agents at the Al Safwa desk at HIA were happy to tag my luggage through to LGW (QR-EK) but no boarding pass.
The delightful agents at First Class desk in LHR were happy to tag my luggage through to DOH (EK-QR) with boarding passes.
These were two tickets on separate PNR.
The tickets were both award tickets and the EK ticket was obtained using QF points but with EK flight numbers.
May 9, 2017 | 12:49 am
#18
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 3,944
Just to follow up;
The delightful agents at the Al Safwa desk at HIA were happy to tag my luggage through to LGW (QR-EK) but no boarding pass.
The delightful agents at First Class desk in LHR were happy to tag my luggage through to DOH (EK-QR) with boarding passes.
These were two tickets on separate PNR.
The tickets were both award tickets and the EK ticket was obtained using QF points but with EK flight numbers.
The delightful agents at the Al Safwa desk at HIA were happy to tag my luggage through to LGW (QR-EK) but no boarding pass.
The delightful agents at First Class desk in LHR were happy to tag my luggage through to DOH (EK-QR) with boarding passes.
These were two tickets on separate PNR.
The tickets were both award tickets and the EK ticket was obtained using QF points but with EK flight numbers.
Jul 3, 2017 | 7:17 am
#20
Join Date: May 2009
Location: GLA
Posts: 1,265
Today to Heathrow QR would not interline my luggage with PG on a separate PNR because they Re not a Oneworld carrier (but have an interline agreement). They said it was a strict policy based on their responsibility for the luggage, even if PG was the one to lose it.
Jul 3, 2017 | 1:02 pm
#21
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: LON
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 5,145
But PG (Bangkok Air), although it is an interline partner this only comes into effect on a through journey on a single PNR, not for separate ticketed flights.
Qatar did exactly what their policy said they would do. And they are right, that if your baggage went missing or was damaged as a result of being carried on PG interlined from QR, it is QR that would be liable under the Montreal convention.
Jul 3, 2017 | 3:51 pm
#22
Join Date: May 2009
Location: GLA
Posts: 1,265
Plunet, I'm not complaining, merely relaying my experience. In another thread it was suggested they might be willing to do it, so I thought it would be helpful to make clear to other pax in a similar situation that it's not possible.