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Old Apr 13, 2016, 2:03 am
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What is Ramadan?
Ramadan is the ninth month in the Muslim calendar where Muslims fast from sunrise to sunset.
Ramadan is a holy month to Muslims and also a joyous and spiritual time. I am concentrating upon that which most affects Non-Muslim QR passengers during Ramadan.

When is Ramadan?
Because the Muslim´calendar is a lunar calendar the date in the Gregorian, or solar, calendar changes every year. Each year it is about 11 days earlier than the previous year.
Ramadan 2017 was 27 May to 25 June.
Ramadan 2018 was16 May to 14 June.
Ramadan 2019 was 6 May to 4 June.
Ramadan 2020 was 24 April to 23 May.
Ramadan 2021 was 12 April to 11 May.
Ramadan 2022 was 2 April to 2 May.
Ramadan 2023 wss 22 March to 23 April.
Ramadan 2024 is 10 March to 9 April.
Ramadan 2025 is 1 March to 30 March.
Ramadan 2026 is 18 February to 19 March.
Ramadan 2027 is 8 February to 9 March.


When does Ramadan actually start?
The Muslim day starts at sunset and continues to sunset. Sightings for the new moon are taken at sunset and when sighted the month of Ramadan has started. Fasting begins later in the Muslim day at sunrise. Thus if Ramadan starts on June 6th then it is the sighting of the new moon at sunset on June 5th that marks the official start. Tha actual start date may be different due to the fact that we live on a globe and it takes 24 hours to rotate on its axis! The dates quoted are for Qatar.

Are there exceptions to the rules?
There are exceptions to fasting rules such as the aged, sick, pregnant women, travellers, etc.
Some branches of Islam demand payment of a fine or a penance, such as feeding the poor, for breaking the fast whilst other branches do not. In some branches of Islam travellers may voluntarily choose to continue fasting whilst other branches forbid fasting whilst travelling.

When does Fasting take place?
Most agree that the times of fasting are from Sunrise to Sunset. Others use Dawn and Dusk. The latter could cause serious health problems for those who live at latitude 48.5 or greater. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight for an explanation.

How does Ramadan affect QR?
QR adheres to the rules of Ramadan as required by the State of Qatar.
Food is always available inside the airport and on all flights. This is because of the traveller rules.
Non alcoholic drinks are always available both in the airport and on all flights.
Alcohol is NOT available at Hamad International Airport either inside or outside the airport buildings, even at the Airport hotel. However in 2023 alcohol was being served in at least the Al Safwa and Al Mourjan airport lounges. At the moment it is not known if this also applied to other lounges. Pleas look at this years postings to see other lounges also served alcohol.

Alcohol is not available on most flights to/from muslim countries. Certain muslim countries, such as Malaysia, are regarded as multicultural countries and the in-flight alcohol ban does not apply. On all other flights to/from DOH alcohol is available after departure. The cabin crew decide when departure is. For some it is when you board the aircraft, for others closing the doors, others pushback and yet others after take-off. Where alcohol is permitted on the flight then it will be served by the glass, the bottle remaining in the galley. Pre departure alcoholic drinks as well as in flight drinks will normally be served on flights to/from DOH where alcohol is permitted. There may be exceptions. In 2023 AMM, AUH and SHJ served alcohol, on flights, at least some of the time. The AMM lounge also served alcohol. (See post 382)
In every respect, other than alcohol, service is unchanged throughout QR. BUT where alcohol is available it is not normally on display, but served by the glass from the bar or galley and sometimes needs to be requested..
Duty free alcohol is available at QDF. But there may be restrictions such as delivery to the aircraft door.

How does Ramadan affect The State of Qatar?
If you leave the airport during Ramadan please remember
1) the sale and public consumption of Alcohol is banned by law during Ramadan. In several, but not all, hotels alcohol may be obtained by residents from room service.
2) It is extremely offensive, and in some Muslim countries, including Qatar, a criminal offence, to be seen eating, drinking, smoking or chewing gum in public during the period of fasting.
According to https://discoverqatar.qatarairways.c...madan/overview
"If you need to drink or eat, please do so in the privacy of your own room or in a place where you won’t be seen."
If you need to eat or drink please do it discretely and out of sight of others.

Want to know more?
If you want more information then http://marhaba.qa/ramadan-dos-and-donts-in-qatar/ is specific to Qatar. If you are also interested in health issues then A_guide_to_healthy_fasting is worth looking at, not only for health issues.

This Wiki and thread is about how Ramadan affects QR passengers.

Thanks are due to IAN-UK, Lobengula, RUN4FUN, sharp5flat9, SullyofDoha, VH-RMD and others for help in making this as accurate as possible.


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Old Mar 16, 2024, 2:08 am
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Originally Posted by Alex W
Travelling from LHR today. Alcohol on display at the bar and wine/champagne available for self pour at the Heathrow lounge. On board, no top ups in your seat - everything brought from the galley. Made things slow and I felt sorry for the crew not being able to do champagne top ups in one swoop. Led to a slower service.

Al Mourjan in Doha. Sat at the bar now. You wouldn't know it's Ramadan. No alcohol on display but freely available. Phew....
Hi, did you still get a menu with the alcohol choices on board, wine list etc?
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Old Mar 16, 2024, 2:35 am
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Yes, normal wine menu was on my flights this week both to and from DOH. Spirits available too.
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Old Mar 18, 2024, 11:27 am
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Currently in DOH

Sitting in al mourjan business. Alcohol widely available on request.
full menu including champagne and cocktails.

I will try the priority pass lounge also and report back.
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Old Mar 18, 2024, 1:22 pm
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Al maha priority pass lounge

Just walked into the lounge to check. Saw people drinking glasses of wine. Didn’t get anything myself but can see people there drinking them.
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Old Mar 18, 2024, 7:42 pm
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one small observation, you will not get a full nights sleep if you stay for a stopover in any of the town hotels, because of the many prayer times and call to prayers from different mosques throughout the night.
(depending of the soundproof windows of course)

edit: yes my follow up poster are right, it is indeed only the one 4:xx prayer and my window (embassy suites b hilton) was right across the mosque)

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Old Mar 19, 2024, 12:06 pm
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Originally Posted by nilsfr69
one small observation, you will not get a full nights sleep if you stay for a stopover in any of the town hotels, because of the many prayer times and call to prayers from different mosques throughout the night.
(depending of the soundproof windows of course)
It is only 5 times in 24 hours including one in the night which should be around 7.15 pm or so. And they are all at the same time. The morning one is probably around 4.15am or so.
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Old Mar 19, 2024, 6:57 pm
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Originally Posted by nilsfr69
one small observation, you will not get a full nights sleep if you stay for a stopover in any of the town hotels, because of the many prayer times and call to prayers from different mosques throughout the night.
(depending of the soundproof windows of course)
To be fair, there aren't random calls to prayer through the night. There's only one: but it's a difficult one, currently sometime after 4am for Fajr, the first prayer of the day. The last will be around 7pm for Isha.

Pretty obviously the degree to which the adhan impinges on your sleep depends on where the closest mosque is relative to your room in the hotel, the efficacy of the rooms glazing and the power of blackout curtains to also dampen sound.
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Old Mar 20, 2024, 12:05 pm
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Originally Posted by IAN-UK
To be fair, there aren't random calls to prayer through the night. There's only one: but it's a difficult one, currently sometime after 4am for Fajr, the first prayer of the day. The last will be around 7pm for Isha.

Pretty obviously the degree to which the adhan impinges on your sleep depends on where the closest mosque is relative to your room in the hotel, the efficacy of the rooms glazing and the power of blackout curtains to also dampen sound.
May I add the difficulty also depends on how out of Key the Muezzin goes as well. . I have to say rare in the Middle East.
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Old Mar 20, 2024, 11:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Davvidd
May I add the difficulty also depends on how out of Key the Muezzin goes as well. . I have to say rare in the Middle East.
Rather off topic but at a place I stay in Thailand, all of the local dogs join in with the early call as well. It's actually a really amusing start to the day as the noise slowly spreads and grows. You certainly know you are somewhere different and I always regard it as one of my best travel experiences.

There may well be less dog karaoke in Qatar, but enjoy the local culture of it all. It's part of what travel is all about.
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Old Mar 24, 2024, 1:25 am
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Old Mar 24, 2024, 11:15 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyKahlua
No alcohol on Gulf Air DXB to BAH business class. Their lounge in Dxb had alcohol but it’s very limited.
This is a Qatar Airways Forum, NOT Gulf Air....
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Old Mar 26, 2024, 10:56 am
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Travelled through Doha on both march 15 and 24, all four flights offered full wine and bar service, although a bit more discretely. No champagne offered as pre flight drink, but served when asked for.
the Al-Safwa lounge offered the full menu, just didn’t display any alcohol in the bar.
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