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Old Apr 13, 2016, 2:03 am
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What is Ramadan?
Ramadan is the ninth month in the Muslim calendar where Muslims fast from sunrise to sunset.
Ramadan is a holy month to Muslims and also a joyous and spiritual time. I am concentrating upon that which most affects Non-Muslim QR passengers during Ramadan.

When is Ramadan?
Because the Muslim´calendar is a lunar calendar the date in the Gregorian, or solar, calendar changes every year. Each year it is about 11 days earlier than the previous year.
Ramadan 2017 was 27 May to 25 June.
Ramadan 2018 was16 May to 14 June.
Ramadan 2019 was 6 May to 4 June.
Ramadan 2020 was 24 April to 23 May.
Ramadan 2021 was 12 April to 11 May.
Ramadan 2022 was 2 April to 2 May.
Ramadan 2023 wss 22 March to 23 April.
Ramadan 2024 is 10 March to 9 April.
Ramadan 2025 is 1 March to 30 March.
Ramadan 2026 is 18 February to 19 March.
Ramadan 2027 is 8 February to 9 March.


When does Ramadan actually start?
The Muslim day starts at sunset and continues to sunset. Sightings for the new moon are taken at sunset and when sighted the month of Ramadan has started. Fasting begins later in the Muslim day at sunrise. Thus if Ramadan starts on June 6th then it is the sighting of the new moon at sunset on June 5th that marks the official start. Tha actual start date may be different due to the fact that we live on a globe and it takes 24 hours to rotate on its axis! The dates quoted are for Qatar.

Are there exceptions to the rules?
There are exceptions to fasting rules such as the aged, sick, pregnant women, travellers, etc.
Some branches of Islam demand payment of a fine or a penance, such as feeding the poor, for breaking the fast whilst other branches do not. In some branches of Islam travellers may voluntarily choose to continue fasting whilst other branches forbid fasting whilst travelling.

When does Fasting take place?
Most agree that the times of fasting are from Sunrise to Sunset. Others use Dawn and Dusk. The latter could cause serious health problems for those who live at latitude 48.5 or greater. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight for an explanation.

How does Ramadan affect QR?
QR adheres to the rules of Ramadan as required by the State of Qatar.
Food is always available inside the airport and on all flights. This is because of the traveller rules.
Non alcoholic drinks are always available both in the airport and on all flights.
Alcohol is NOT available at Hamad International Airport either inside or outside the airport buildings, even at the Airport hotel. However in 2023 alcohol was being served in at least the Al Safwa and Al Mourjan airport lounges. At the moment it is not known if this also applied to other lounges. Pleas look at this years postings to see other lounges also served alcohol.

Alcohol is not available on most flights to/from muslim countries. Certain muslim countries, such as Malaysia, are regarded as multicultural countries and the in-flight alcohol ban does not apply. On all other flights to/from DOH alcohol is available after departure. The cabin crew decide when departure is. For some it is when you board the aircraft, for others closing the doors, others pushback and yet others after take-off. Where alcohol is permitted on the flight then it will be served by the glass, the bottle remaining in the galley. Pre departure alcoholic drinks as well as in flight drinks will normally be served on flights to/from DOH where alcohol is permitted. There may be exceptions. In 2023 AMM, AUH and SHJ served alcohol, on flights, at least some of the time. The AMM lounge also served alcohol. (See post 382)
In every respect, other than alcohol, service is unchanged throughout QR. BUT where alcohol is available it is not normally on display, but served by the glass from the bar or galley and sometimes needs to be requested..
Duty free alcohol is available at QDF. But there may be restrictions such as delivery to the aircraft door.

How does Ramadan affect The State of Qatar?
If you leave the airport during Ramadan please remember
1) the sale and public consumption of Alcohol is banned by law during Ramadan. In several, but not all, hotels alcohol may be obtained by residents from room service.
2) It is extremely offensive, and in some Muslim countries, including Qatar, a criminal offence, to be seen eating, drinking, smoking or chewing gum in public during the period of fasting.
According to https://discoverqatar.qatarairways.c...madan/overview
"If you need to drink or eat, please do so in the privacy of your own room or in a place where you won’t be seen."
If you need to eat or drink please do it discretely and out of sight of others.

Want to know more?
If you want more information then http://marhaba.qa/ramadan-dos-and-donts-in-qatar/ is specific to Qatar. If you are also interested in health issues then A_guide_to_healthy_fasting is worth looking at, not only for health issues.

This Wiki and thread is about how Ramadan affects QR passengers.

Thanks are due to IAN-UK, Lobengula, RUN4FUN, sharp5flat9, SullyofDoha, VH-RMD and others for help in making this as accurate as possible.


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Old Jun 4, 2017, 5:21 am
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Originally Posted by khabah
Thank you for the update! Is this for the QR Premium Lounge or the Marhaba Lounge next door?

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If you are flying Qatar Airways from DXB on an ECONOMY ticket and you are OW Emerald (Privilege Platinum) you have access to the 1st Class Lounge (Marhaba lounge right by the Qatar Airways Premium Lounge).

Status does NOT get you into the Qatar Airways Premium Lounge. You must be flying FIRST from DXB-DOH to get the Qatar Airways Premium Lounge (an inferior lounge in my opinion).
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Old Jun 4, 2017, 8:41 am
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Originally Posted by SullyofDoha
Platinum Members flying Qatar Airways Economy from DXB during Ramadan: Just an update, the 1st Class lounge has signs that state drinks are available after 8pm during Ramadan. However, if you are in the lounge before that time, you can head to the bar and discreetly ask for a beverage
And to think that they insisted that the (dry) Al Mourjan lounge would be superior and we should go there

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Old Jun 4, 2017, 9:51 am
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And to think that they insisted that the (dry) Al Mourjan lounge would be superior and we should go there
Calchas the lounges being discussed are in DXB not DOH. They are in different countries!
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Old Jun 5, 2017, 12:14 am
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Calchas the lounges being discussed are in DXB not DOH. They are in different countries!
Oh I thought this was flying via DOH and the DXB origin was incidental. :-) Carry on.
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Old Jun 5, 2017, 12:36 am
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Happy Ramadan Qatar Airways from your Arab neighbours. Slow clap!
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Old Jun 7, 2017, 7:35 am
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I am transiting DOH the evening of June 25th -- the last day of Ramadan. I have several hour connection, departing about 2:00am on the 26th. Wondering if the official end of Ramadan will be at sunset on the 25th so that alcohol will return to the lounge at that time, or will it more likely be sometime after midnight on the 26th?
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Old Jun 7, 2017, 8:31 am
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777Pax it very much depends upon when the lounges are told to restore alcohol to the lounges. That depends upon a number of factors.
1) when the new moon is sighted signifing the end of the month of Ramadan
2) when the lounge staff are allowed to restore alcohol.
3) when lounge staff actually restore it to the lounges.
So in typical QR style: No one really knows!
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Old Jun 7, 2017, 9:40 am
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So how do hotels handle guests who wish to eat eg breakfast? Are the buffets not functioning? Do they encourage room service breakfasts?
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Old Jun 7, 2017, 10:11 am
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So how do hotels handle guests who wish to eat eg breakfast? Are the buffets not functioning? Do they encourage room service breakfasts?
3544quebec I have not been in Doha during Ramadan so I cannot give an exact answer. However there are reports on this thread that many hotels do so.
Many (ALL?) major hotels have screened off areas where food can be served to anyone who is not fasting. If they have a buffet or not is probably a matter of demand. Ask at the hotel.
Almost every hotel will serve food for their non fasting guests in the privacy of their rooms.
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Old Jun 7, 2017, 10:36 am
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Thanks remdk seriously contemplating cutting my losses and cancelling my CAI-DOH-MPM trip to spend Ramadan in the ME (Egypt mainly). Hot and hungry does not greatly appeal but I imagine there are other attractions of Ramadan travel come sunset
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Old Jun 7, 2017, 10:27 pm
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Originally Posted by 3544quebec
So how do hotels handle guests who wish to eat eg breakfast? Are the buffets not functioning? Do they encourage room service breakfasts?
The Big Box hotels have a screened off buffet area for non fasting guests or room service.
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Old Jun 8, 2017, 12:01 am
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There are quite a few hotel restaurants open for breakfast lunch and dinner so even if the one you are staying at is not open then there are quite a few options.
This Doha News article is pretty useful; https://dohanews.co/doha-news-ramada...g-hours-guide/

Tomorrow morning I am going to try out the Santa Monica Breakfast Club at the Grand Hyatt!
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Old Jun 8, 2017, 5:00 am
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Thanks for all the info and the link
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Old Jun 8, 2017, 5:46 am
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I was offered breakfast at the Westin this morning.
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Old Jun 8, 2017, 2:55 pm
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Do they serve alcohol on the ground at DOH during Ramadan?
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