QF30 emergency landing MNL
Jul 25, 2008, 10:10 am
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Qantas plane suffered corrosion
THE Qantas plane forced to make an emergency landing in the Philippines after a massive hole opened up in its fuselage had been plagued by a history of corrosion.
News Limited reports today that engineers discovered a large amount of corrosion in the Qantas jumbo during a major refurbishment earlier this year.
The 17-year-old Boeing 747-400, registration VH-OJK, received a new interior at Victoria's Avalon Airport in March.
Aviation sources said aircraft engineers had noted a "lot" of corrosion during the refit, the report said.
More at News.com.au (News Corporation)
THE Qantas plane forced to make an emergency landing in the Philippines after a massive hole opened up in its fuselage had been plagued by a history of corrosion.
News Limited reports today that engineers discovered a large amount of corrosion in the Qantas jumbo during a major refurbishment earlier this year.
The 17-year-old Boeing 747-400, registration VH-OJK, received a new interior at Victoria's Avalon Airport in March.
Aviation sources said aircraft engineers had noted a "lot" of corrosion during the refit, the report said.
More at News.com.au (News Corporation)
Qantas emergency landing could have been caused by spilled coffee
Experts said the dramatic incident was most likely to have been caused by either corrosion to the inside of the plane, such as a liquid spilled in the cabin above that had lain undetected, or damage caused by freight or a maintenance vehicle that had been badly repaired.
David Gardner, editor of Aerospace International, said human error could have played a part.
"You sometimes get panels coming off planes and it's usually down to a mistake being made somewhere on the inspection or engineering side," he said.
"A bolt may have been put in wrong or something might not have been checked properly.
"That kind of fault is rare with big airlines such as Qantas and British Airways - it's something more often associated with African and South American airlines, where the training is not so good and the standards are lower."
David Learmont, operations and safety editor of Flight International magazine, said: "Over a period of years, a weak spot could have developed with pressurisation and that can ultimately lead to a blow-out."
More at Daily Telegraph (UK).
Experts said the dramatic incident was most likely to have been caused by either corrosion to the inside of the plane, such as a liquid spilled in the cabin above that had lain undetected, or damage caused by freight or a maintenance vehicle that had been badly repaired.
David Gardner, editor of Aerospace International, said human error could have played a part.
"You sometimes get panels coming off planes and it's usually down to a mistake being made somewhere on the inspection or engineering side," he said.
"A bolt may have been put in wrong or something might not have been checked properly.
"That kind of fault is rare with big airlines such as Qantas and British Airways - it's something more often associated with African and South American airlines, where the training is not so good and the standards are lower."
David Learmont, operations and safety editor of Flight International magazine, said: "Over a period of years, a weak spot could have developed with pressurisation and that can ultimately lead to a blow-out."
More at Daily Telegraph (UK).
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Jul 25, 2008, 10:45 am
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This mishap is getting a lot of media attention .I have seen the video as reported earlier on all the reports .
I'm in Warsaw and the local channels , plus german , french and italian stations also reported it .
Needless to say it was big news on CNN- they reported that a US official discounted any terrorist causes for the hole! They also quoted Qantas CEO Mr Owen Dixon with his thoughts about the incident !!
I'm in Warsaw and the local channels , plus german , french and italian stations also reported it .
Needless to say it was big news on CNN- they reported that a US official discounted any terrorist causes for the hole! They also quoted Qantas CEO Mr Owen Dixon with his thoughts about the incident !!
Jul 25, 2008, 11:03 am
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I guess enough time has passed for the Philippine security services to quickly sniff for common explosives, but still...
I guess it's better than faux news constantly flashing "possible terror attack on australian jet" or some other such crap.
Jul 25, 2008, 11:56 am
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Jul 25, 2008, 12:02 pm
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Jul 25, 2008, 12:58 pm
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The chief executive, Geoff Dixon, said:"The Australian Transportation Safety Bureau and the Civil Aviation Safety Authority have been notified of the incident and Qantas is sending its own engineers to Manila."
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Jul 25, 2008, 1:52 pm
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From rzjets.net:
An ACARS search for this registration number will give you some of the past flights for which this aircraft has been used:
http://www.acarsd.org/acars_search.html
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reg type cn ln(2cn) engine fleet·name VH-OJK Boeing 747-438 25067 857 RB211-524G City Of Newcastle operator built selcal QANTAS 1991 LQBH ff 5/21/91 , dd 6/17/91
http://www.acarsd.org/acars_search.html
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Date Reg Type Oper Flt# Route MsgNo Message 24/07/2008 13:57 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0030 LHR-HKG-MEL 326e SBS-1 Callsign: QFA30 24/07/2008 04:49 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0009 MEL-SIN-LHR M32A MVA QFA0009/23.VHOJK.EGLL EA0405 SI EB0410 23/07/2008 05:25 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0009 MEL-SIN-LHR 0020 SBS-1 Callsign: QFA9 22/07/2008 21:01 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0012 LAX-SYD C00A #CFB A RPT1 PG1 L-PLF SUMMARY REAL TIME LT 22JUL08 0550 B VH-OJK 22JUL08 1900 QFA12 KLAX/YSSY 685-2270-011 RR-506 ER C 35210200A D 3500722JUL0818593521 ERHA 21/07/2008 06:48 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0011 SYD-LAX S20A 20/07/2008 20:49 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 LHR-BKK-SYD S75A 20/07/2008 00:15 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 LHR-BKK-SYD D64A #2SB 01PN50573E00541831012221317FG34 E10225678-0012 00 19/07/2008 23:46 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 LHR-BKK-SYD 3e5a SBS-1 Callsign: QFA2 19/07/2008 12:12 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0029 SYD-HKG-LHR S69A 18/07/2008 15:08 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0029 SYD-HKG-LHR S81A 18/07/2008 12:01 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0030 LHR-HKG-MEL F40A #M1B/B6 MELCAYA.ADS.VH-OJK07E60D3B34AF06D7816D9D0DE591B3375CC3960198E573AB378FC2D4400E35A8E97E3410642F3EA2DBBD 17/07/2008 13:13 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0030 EGLL-VHHH F41A #M1BRESPWX/AC,85/TS111337,170708C564 17/07/2008 06:24 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0001 SYD-BKK-LHR D62A #2SB 01PN52359E01197537996042403FG34 E26804453-0009 00 16/07/2008 09:32 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0001 SYD-BKK-LHR D85A #DFB/SYDAXQF.OK XCM ****** 1 FUNSUP65 0 FUNSUP66 0 ADSPER 30 B 15/07/2008 23:07 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0108 JFK-LAX-SYD S77A 14/07/2008 15:14 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0011 SYD-LAX D63C #2PB53 022 005 062 306 1626 00 2 1604 1685 193 15630 4256 24793 078 094 037 133 276 1627 00 3 1602 1687 193 15573 4444 25039 075 070 027 113 141 1630 02 4 1602 1685 193 15608 4432 24933 024 082 014 08 14/07/2008 09:44 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0176 LAX-BNE D18A #2PBASF 3 VH-OJK QFA0176 0211 14JUL08 KLAX YBBN ER 1157 188 150 L -438 -110 34008 844 2955 303692 5075 000 -1 R -440 -113 34000 845 2959 303764 5068 000 0 L 28 27 -01 -05 -04 16 0 13/07/2008 04:30 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0175 BNE-LAX S18A 13/07/2008 02:31 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF6191 D37A #2RBAMP VH-OJK QFA6191 001415 13JUL08 YSSY YBBN ES 1154 188 150 94 1242 697 17 727 1000 925 4750 745 640 230 54 1108 1032 7000 940 640 230 54 7 10 93 -6 45 49 14250 85 40 12/07/2008 23:06 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 LHR-BKK-SYD F28A #M1B/B6 MELCAYA.ADS.VH-OJK13E7EDA34EBC08FB45711D0FB3 12/07/2008 03:09 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 LHR-BKK-SYD 08a9 SBS-1 Callsign: QFA2 12/07/2008 00:03 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF031D SIN-LHR 38f6 SBS-1 position report N50.12973E8.44195 FL38000 ft./12467 m. 12/07/2008 00:02 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0031 SYD-SIN-LHR S84A 11/07/2008 23:57 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0031 SYD-SIN-LHR M57A WX REQUEST QFA0031/11 TAFOR EGLL EGSS ---- 11/07/2008 22:48 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF031D SIN-LHR 0281 SBS-1 Callsign: QFA31D 07/07/2008 22:36 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0150 LAX-SYD S98A 06/07/2008 02:29 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0149 SYD-LAX D04A #DFB/SYDAXQF.OK XCM ****** 1 FUNSUP65 0 FUNSUP66 0 ADSPER 30 B 05/07/2008 23:20 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0128 HKG-SYD S78A 05/07/2008 03:39 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0127 SYD-HKG D06A #2SB 01PS33930E15117000032013712FG34 E3471168301440 00 03/07/2008 10:17 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0032 LHR-SIN-SYD S86A 02/07/2008 13:04 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0032 LHR-SIN-SYD F03C #M1BJ.MAMED.AFGAN.KEMOR.ADIKO.GIRLA.RANAH.JIMPO.VELDT.RIKAD.MAXIN.GODSI.ROSIE.ZB.HILAL.RK.VIKIT.LATOS.BIDAN.NIKOT.IBANI.DABKI.GURVI.DIVTA.EKADI.ELBAB.MABDU.NIKIR.DOGEM.BIDEX.BASOP.ALADO.AGEGA.EMRAN.AGELO.RIPSO. 02/07/2008 05:46 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF001D VTBS-LHR F85A #M1BREQPWI/TS043806,020708/WQ320.340.360.380:BAB09.SUB10.ABETI.SNU.TAGAS.LUGIM.MOTIX.FRE.PABSA.RENKA.GONBA.STAUB.MAMOR.UNKUL.UPALA.INBED.LOHRE.ESAMA.TESGA.MONAX.MAKOB.LENDO.BATTY.TERLA.SOGRI.BUB.DENUT.BUB45.COA 01/07/2008 09:45 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0001 SYD-BKK-LHR D40A #2TBYSSYVTBS AMDAR 0107 A3400S15110E0741F018P115258021032 A3402S15110E0741F020P109277021024 A3403S15110E0741F023P101274023026 A3404S15111E0741F026P089266028037 A3405S15111E0742F029P082266027024 01/07/2008 05:22 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0064 JNB-SYD D11A #2TBFAJSYSSY AMDAR 3022 R4033S07619E2210F350M499284083010 R4105S07737E2217F350M516285078003 R4136S07856E2224F350M528286081003 R4206S08015E2231F350M534297079002 R4239S08133E2238F350M529298084003 30/06/2008 03:26 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0063 SYD-JNB D26A #DFB/SYDAXQF.OK XCM ****** 1 FUNSUP65 0 FUNSUP66 0 ADSPER 30 B 29/06/2008 23:32 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0128 HKG-SYD S19A 29/06/2008 03:46 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0127 SYD-HKG D32A #DFB/SYDAXQF.OK XCM ****** 1 FUNSUP65 0 FUNSUP66 0 ADSPER 30 B 28/06/2008 20:29 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0010 EGLL-WSSS 2349 SBS-1 position report N-32.66016E137.86150 FL32975 ft./10818 m. 28/06/2008 20:17 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 LHR-BKK-SYD S03A 0LS182103V 28/06/2008 00:18 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 LHR-BKK-SYD D54A #2PBCLB VH-OJK QFA0002 2208 27JUN08 EGLL VTBS CL 1123 188 150 L -190 73 20017 720 3336 358994 R -193 73 20018 721 3339 358994 1 1018 995 923 6265 5762 1671 710 75 136 195 058 10 2 1011 989 28/06/2008 00:02 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 LHR-BKK-SYD D50A #2RBAMP VH-OJK QFA0002 213227 27JUN08 EGLL VTBS ES 1123 188 150 94 1168 654 17 693 1000 943 4980 798 680 234 53 1108 1032 7000 1000 675 234 53 9 12 98 -6 61 85 14125 101 40 27/06/2008 06:19 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0009 MEL-SIN-LHR 02de SBS-1 Callsign: QFA9 26/06/2008 08:14 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0009 MEL-SIN-LHR D73B #2RB0 112 82 400 113 104 270 0 ---- ---- ---- 383 25/06/2008 19:34 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0010 EGLL-WSSS S81A 25/06/2008 00:04 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0010 EGLL-WSSS D09C #2PB0 38 2 1656 131 9833 2895 16090 065 072 011 099 336 3 1656 131 9806 3032 16281 044 043 048 117 213 4 1656 131 9810 3021 16211 025 066 047 084 153 000 111 20 001 722 722 722 723 726 726 24/06/2008 23:48 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0010 LHR-SIN-MEL 2be3 SBS-1 Callsign: QFA10 24/06/2008 06:38 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0031 SYD-SIN-LHR D95C #2PB038 330 2 1565 -119 4861 1282 7535 026 055 007 063 157 3 1566 -119 4857 1336 7629 032 039 016 055 174 4 1567 -119 4857 1327 7586 012 058 018 063 157 000 111 -17 001 00 00 00 00 00 23/06/2008 11:00 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0031 SYD-SIN-LHR D20A #2SB 01PS33969E15118000438085831FG34 E1715165701726 00 23/06/2008 04:59 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0064 JNB-SYD S36A 0EV025953VS 22/06/2008 02:38 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0063 SYD-JNB D25A #DFB/SYDAXQF.OK XCM ****** 1 FUNSUP65 0 FUNSUP66 0 ADSPER 30 B 21/06/2008 21:35 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 EGLL-VTBS F77A #M1B/B6 BNECAYA.ADS.VH-OJK13E8DA6B5A948784A0DD1F25F5 21/06/2008 00:19 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 LHR-BKK-SYD S26A 21/06/2008 00:06 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 EGLL-VTBD-YSSY 3f5e SBS-1 Callsign: QFA2 20/06/2008 13:38 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0029 MEL-HKG-LHR 06ae SBS-1 Callsign: QFA29 19/06/2008 13:43 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0030 EGLL-VHHH D54A #2SB 01PS36337E14771329999114156FG34 E23564905-0006 00 18/06/2008 13:41 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0030 EGLL-VHHH D50B #2RB0 112 74 399 113 97 278 -1 ---- ---- ---- 351 18/06/2008 05:45 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0031 0183 SBS-1 Callsign: QFA31 17/06/2008 09:12 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0031 SIN-LHR S97A 13/06/2008 06:07 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 LHR-BKK-SYD 0fcb SBS-1 position report N-37.66100E144.82651 FL750 ft./246 m. 13/06/2008 06:02 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF6004 M88A MVA QFA6004/13.VHOJK.YMML AD0351/0406 EA0454 YSSY 12/06/2008 19:32 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0010 EGLL-WSSS 030b SBS-1 Callsign: QFA10 12/06/2008 00:00 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0010 EGLL-WSSS D63A #2SB 01PN52414E00510731008215744FG34 E08665475-0003 00 11/06/2008 23:32 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0010 EGLL-WSSS 3cf0 SBS-1 Callsign: QFA10 11/06/2008 09:56 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0031 WSSS-EGLL F80A #M1B/B0 EDYY.AFN/FMHQFA31,.VH-OJK,,075608/FPON52227E013202,1/FCOADS,01/FCOATC ,01C752 10/06/2008 13:31 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0031 SIN-LHR S98A 09/06/2008 20:16 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 LHR-BKK-SYD S95A 09/06/2008 00:17 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 LHR-BKK-SYD 1baa SBS-1 Callsign: QFA2 08/06/2008 23:19 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 LHR-BKK-SYD 3fea SBS-1 Callsign: QFA2 08/06/2008 13:23 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0029 SYD-HKG-LHR D52A #2SB 01PN55985E01699137997112345FG34 E25095092-0014 00 06/06/2008 12:56 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0030 EGLL-VHHH S31A 0LS105636V 06/06/2008 07:12 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0031 YSSY-WSSS-EGLL 04dc SBS-1 Callsign: QFA31 05/06/2008 10:03 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0031 SYD-SIN-LHR D80C #2PB59 042 008 078 292 1563 01 2 1536 1688 197 15520 3849 23578 037 084 039 103 283 1561 00 3 1535 1689 196 15481 4024 23781 055 047 013 074 127 1558 01 4 1535 1688 196 15513 4031 23742 024 074 016 08 05/06/2008 06:03 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0064 JNB-SYD S46A 04/06/2008 04:23 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0063 SYD-JNB 2322 SBS-1 Callsign: QFA63 03/06/2008 03:46 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 EGLL-VTBS D61A #2RBAMP VH-OJK QFA0002 013350 03JUN08 EGLL VTBS ES 1087 188 150 94 1064 592 16 641 1000 938 4920 1000 650 234 0 1108 1032 7000 980 650 234 0 8 11 97 -6 65 84 14000 101 40 03/06/2008 00:00 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0001 SYD-BKK-LHR S24A 02/06/2008 23:50 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0001 SYD-BKK-LHR F42A #M1B/B0 EDYY.AFN/FMHQFA1,.VH-OJK,,215432/FPON52213E011422,1/FCOADS,01/FCOATC,017924 31/05/2008 12:54 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF012D M69A WX REQUEST QFA012D/30 ATIS YSSY ---- ---- 30/05/2008 03:19 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0009 MEL-SIN-LHR 3ffd SBS-1 position report N-34.84118E136.17571 FL39000 ft./12795 m. 30/05/2008 03:14 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0574 PER-SYD 3ffc SBS-1 Callsign: QFA574 29/05/2008 10:11 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0064 D10A #2PBESF 3 VH-OJK QFA0064 0641 29MAY08 FAJS YPPH ER 1079 188 150 L -513 -183 39030 862 2694 253470 R -510 -180 39002 862 2697 253470 1 914 915 860 5290 2260 1578 627 96 109 130 025 10 2 914 9 28/05/2008 03:32 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0063 SYD-JNB D08A #2MBFAV VH-OJK QFA0063 0130 28MAY08 YSSY FAJS ER 1076 188 150 ENGINE 3 BLEED TEMP BELOW 210 DEG F FOR 20 MIN VLV BLEED E2 E2 TEMP N1 ALT O C ON PR TEMP N1 177 89.1 299 27/05/2008 21:00 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0009 MEL-SIN-LHR 39fa SBS-1 position report N-34.84424E136.22996 FL37000 ft./12139 m. 27/05/2008 20:49 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0568 PER-SYD D82A #2TBYPPHYSSY AMDAR 2718 R3424S13033E1822F370M598196041005 R3430S13142E1829F370M605192045002 R3436S13250E1836F370M610188052004 R3442S13357E1843F370M613187059002 R3446S13505E1850F370M613178067002 27/05/2008 13:04 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0009 MEL-SIN-LHR 3986 SBS-1 position report N-34.30974E140.72948 FL38000 ft./12467 m. 27/05/2008 12:59 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0583 SYD-PER 3982 SBS-1 Callsign: QFA583 26/05/2008 21:23 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 EGLL-VTBS S46A 26/05/2008 00:26 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 EGLL-VTBS S74A 25/05/2008 21:16 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 EGLL-VTBS D41A #2PBTKO VH-OJK QFA0002 1914 25MAY08 EGLL EGCC IC 1071 188 150 L 123 155 210 236 1552 224621 95 R 123 155 199 235 1548 224603 98 1 912 975 896 5725 6985 1514 678 109 86 178 072 10 2 25/05/2008 06:28 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0001 SYD-BKK-LHR 02ec SBS-1 Callsign: QFA1 24/05/2008 09:44 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0001 SYD-BKK-LHR S99A 23/05/2008 23:21 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0128 HKG-SYD M44A WX REQUEST QFA0128/23 ATIS YSSY ---- ---- 23/05/2008 03:55 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0127 SYD-HKG D64A #2TBYSSYVHHH AMDAR 2301 A3404S15111E0152F026P071267002017 A3406S15111E0153F032P058309003049 A3408S15112E0153F047P026324012027 A3411S15112E0154F064P042291018027 A3413S15109E0154F081P014291007027 22/05/2008 11:46 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0566 PER-SYD D29A #DFB/SYDAXQF.OK XCM ****** 1 FUNSUP65 0 FUNSUP66 0 ADSPER 30 B 22/05/2008 07:13 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0009 MEL-SIN-LHR 2e36 SBS-1 position report N-34.30421E140.28050 FL28000 ft./9186 m. 22/05/2008 05:55 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0577 SYD-PER D96B #2PB900 962 892 5790 6695 1489 660 93 83 170 075 10 3 908 973 896 5715 6920 1492 669 90 86 170 076 10 4 901 966 895 5595 6673 1489 664 84 93 183 077 10 1 1488 1683 192 15573 3769 23140 0 20/05/2008 12:42 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0032 EGLL-WSSS S16A 20/05/2008 08:58 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0001 SYD-BKK-LHR 063e SBS-1 Callsign: QFA1 19/05/2008 04:51 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0064 JNB-SYD D06B #2PB0 00 -05 -02 288 R 22 22 -04 14 -08 14 00 00 -01 -07 278 I 19413 13698 37693 37557 13607 3991 3991 3900 133856 A 317 12609 12428 12655 12700 0 0 0 50712 1 868 8 18/05/2008 04:49 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0064 JNB-SYD D06A #2PBASF 2 VH-OJK QFA0064 2325 18MAY08 FAJS YSSY ER 1057 188 150 L -598 -290 34998 851 2914 282318 5566 000 6 R -603 -295 34982 851 2916 282318 5549 -000 9 L 25 25 -01 -13 -05 15 0 14/05/2008 22:00 VH-OJK B744 QFA0032 14be SBS-1 Callsign: QFA32 14/05/2008 13:46 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0032 EGLL-WSSS 0469 SBS-1 Callsign: QFA32 14/05/2008 07:01 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0031 SYD-SIN-LHR D11D #2PB 00 145 13/05/2008 04:44 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0064 JNB-SYD F99A #M1B/B6 MELCAYA.ADS.VH-OJK030807E3E5032268890869F89D0DE5382B37FD49854608E592533B230985400E14F8F17FFC1005B9FE12E6E7 12/05/2008 02:24 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0063 SYD-JNB D24A #2PBTKO VH-OJK QFA0063 0023 12MAY08 YSSY FAJS IC 1047 188 150 L 173 223 -175 293 1933 390746 73 R 173 223 -172 295 1954 390746 75 1 1020 1022 943 6720 9892 1674 813 101 106 175 095 10 2 1 11/05/2008 20:46 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 LHR-BKK-SYD F53A #M1B/B6 MELCAYA.ADS.VH-OJK030207E965EB53B4C9086B8C9D0DE85D5B5B4583A303BCE818E35BAEC232800E32C0F480001018AD7E46DEE6 11/05/2008 00:07 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 LHR-BKK-SYD D41A #2SB 01PN50702E00518931017220800FG34 E10415127-0028 00 10/05/2008 23:38 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 S71A 10/05/2008 12:36 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0029 SYD-HKG-LHR S26A 09/05/2008 15:07 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0029 SYD-HKG-LHR 07fc SBS-1 Callsign: QFA29 09/05/2008 11:42 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0030 LHR-HKG-MEL D24A #2TBVHHHYMML AMDAR 0909 R3210S14134E0914F390M528279036002 R3304S14205E0921F390M536281031002 R3354S14235E0928F390M546285032003 R3444S14305E0935F390M579277026003 D3529S14337E0941F387M585288025007 08/05/2008 13:52 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0030 LHR-HKG-MEL S42A 08/05/2008 05:03 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0009 MEL-SIN-LHR 0068 SBS-1 Callsign: QFA9 07/05/2008 08:03 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0009 MEL-SIN-LHR M65A MVA QFA0009/07.VHOJK.YMML AD0550/0603 EA1258 WSSS 07/05/2008 05:39 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF6003 AKL-MEL D60A #2MBFAV VH-OJK QFA6003 0344 07MAY08 YSSY YMML ER 1037 188 150 ENGINE 3 BLEED TEMP BELOW 210 DEG F FOR 20 MIN VLV BLEED E2 E2 TEMP N1 ALT O C ON PR TEMP N1 163 85.8 400 06/05/2008 04:50 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0064 JNB-SYD S48A 05/05/2008 02:51 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0063 SYD-JNB D34A #2PBTKO VH-OJK QFA0063 0050 05MAY08 YSSY FAJS IC 1035 188 150 L 153 200 13 285 1886 384668 84 R 153 200 2 284 1898 384632 87 1 968 997 921 6320 8669 1609 760 98 107 178 087 10 2 04/05/2008 23:14 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0128 HKG-SYD F90A #M1B/B6 MELCAYA.ADS.VH-OJK03019744 03/05/2008 23:14 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0128 HKG-SYD S31A 03/05/2008 03:20 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0127 SYD-HKG D43A #2TBYSSYVHHH AMDAR 0301 A3400S15110E0115F015P123203003031 A3400S15110E0115F018P113180004068 A3402S15110E0115F021P103179003065 A3402S15110E0115F023P094222004014 A3403S15111E0116F026P084202004027 02/05/2008 20:46 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 LHR-BKK-SYD F68A #M1B/B6 BNECAYA.ADS.VH-OJK14E8AE4B5AD247226AB01D0DE85D5B5B45847B4100E818E35BAEC2B700CE90 02/05/2008 00:28 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 LHR-BKK-SYD 1945 SBS-1 Callsign: QFA2 01/05/2008 23:33 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0002 LHR-BKK-SYD 11b1 SBS-1 Callsign: QFA2 01/05/2008 06:05 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0001 SYD-BKK-LHR M19A WX REQUEST QFA0001/30 ATIS EGLL EGLL ---- 30/04/2008 09:27 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0001 SYD-BKK-LHR D20A #2PBTKO VH-OJK QFA0001 0725 30APR08 YSSY VTBS IC 1027 188 150 L 165 208 -117 273 1794 340433 77 R 165 208 -108 272 1806 340433 78 1 935 983 906 6010 7613 1544 704 103 98 178 081 10 2 29/04/2008 00:08 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF6006 002f SBS-1 Callsign: QFA6006 28/04/2008 21:54 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0176 LAX-BNE F63A #M1B/B6 BNECAYA.ADS.VH-OJK13ED4CDB719D493A73441D9649 27/04/2008 04:18 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0175 BNE-LAX S49A 26/04/2008 22:14 VH-OJK B744 Qantas QF0176 LAX-BNE F41A #M1B/B6 BNECAYA.ADS.VH-OJK13ED146B727F093A4D299DF304
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Jul 25, 2008, 2:31 pm
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Jul 25, 2008, 3:48 pm
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No one's brought it up in this thread but the incident is somewhat similar to UA 811 incident many years back where the starboard cargo door blew out, disabling the 2 starboard engines, leaving a huge hole in the side, and sucking out 9 pax to boot. I thought something similar had happened but it looks like the causes are very different.
http://www.ntsb.org/Wiringcargodoorlite/home.html
(Note: this site is NOT ntsb.gov
http://www.ntsb.org/Wiringcargodoorlite/home.html
(Note: this site is NOT ntsb.gov
Jul 25, 2008, 4:14 pm
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Jul 25, 2008, 4:22 pm
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Looking at the picture, I would say that the fuselage structure that failed is the greenish inside thing. You can see rivets for reinforcement rings, which are meant to hold internal pressure, plus also some longitudinal reinforcements. (Remember that roughly, longitudinal stress is half the hoop stress.)
Anyway, I would say that this internal structure -the real structure- failed over a smaller area, and then pushed out the entire outer panel.
This panel is really the transition to the wing box (on the left on the picture posted), which is obviously a quite strong component, since it helps carrying the weight of the fuselage to the wings. Which may have been a somewhat mitigating factor?
Anyway, I would say that this internal structure -the real structure- failed over a smaller area, and then pushed out the entire outer panel.
This panel is really the transition to the wing box (on the left on the picture posted), which is obviously a quite strong component, since it helps carrying the weight of the fuselage to the wings. Which may have been a somewhat mitigating factor?