I am planning a trip to Europe using Quantas miles--125,000 for first class.

Can we go anyplace within the 10,000 miles limit? How often can we stop? Could we for instance fly SEA/LHR/DUS/ZHR/LHR/JFK stopping in DUS, ZHR and LHR?

Max. 5 stopovers, in general- one free at the point of turnaround, plus 4 more at 10,000 points a pop. If you have a surface sector, the mileage counts toward the limit, but it only counts as one stopover (eg. I flew JFK-LHR-VIE, PRG-LHR-JFK- only one stopover, but the mileage VIE-PRG counted even though I took the train)

As I posted on your other thread (in response to another poster), you have to calculate distance back to origin.
So even if you only fly SEA-LHR,LHR-JFK, the mileage is calculated as follows:
JFK-LHR 3451
LHR-SEA 4800
SEA-JFK 2421
This goes over by 672 miles.

SEA-LHR, LHR-SEA is fine though. If you want to fly Concorde, my math says you can only get back as far as Denver.

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Well, phooey. I was hoping to fly SEA/LHR in BA first and then take the Concorde LHR/JFK. Pretty funny. I can fly SEA/LHR/SEA and it counts as 10,000 miles but SEA/LHR/JFK which is only 8,220 counts as over 10,000. Go figure.

So the sensible thing to do would be take the direct SEA/LHR/SEA but then I wouldn't have a Concorde experience. We'll probaly just do JFK/LHR/DUS/LHR/JFK and then switch to UA.

The 5 stopovers only work on QF flights. Bummer.

It also depends on your tier status with QF - OW tier through AA/BA won't help in this regard. The FF service centre is "flexible" with stopover fees for its elites. Good for QF Gold, and very good for QF Platinum FFs.

BTW, there's also a great airline called Qantas.

Yeah- it's a real trade-off- Concorde was great to fly once, but JFK-LHR is too short to fully enjoy on the overnight flights, IMHO.

But, big picture, it's a nice dilemma to have

I probably know the T+Cs of the Qantas program better than any other (program, that is, not person!), and I've never even flown them. Once you learn its quirks (rules, mileage basis for awards, etc.), it compliments a traditional US program nicely- except the fact that there are no changes allowed after departure- that one scares the h*ll out of me no matter how you look at it. That's one of the biggest things scaring me away from the 300,000 point RTW, which I otherwise consider to be a great deal.

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So could I do ORD/LHR BA first, stopover in LHR, then LHR JFK on the Concorde, stopover in NYC and then JFK/ORD British first?

Problem I see with that is JFK-ORD is I don't think BA flies that one (actually, I don't think AA flies JFK-ORD! That one confuses those of us on the AA board!).

And adding LGA-ORD on AA makes it a Oneworld award, which costs more miles and is the original reference of the "Not valid on British Airways Concorde services. A double whammy

That is a limitation of the OneWorld Award and not a conditoin limited to, or imposed by, QF. It is in place for any OneWorld Award "purchased" using any OneWorld partner's scheme.

This only works for QF awards (not sure about partner awards??), but not for the OneWorld award, where the rules are set by OneWorld and not able to be bent by any of the airlines for any of their premium FF members. 5 stopovers is the hard and fast limit with the OneWorld award .

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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">BTW, there's also a great airline called Qantas.

What are my options from SFO? I had originally planned to do JFK-LHR-MRS (Marseille)using BA first, then return using concorde. Buying my own fare to SFO.

Then I was reading this and wondered if I could do SFO-LHR-MRS in First, then return to JFK on Concorde and buy my own oneway to SFO.. But since I am reading that it has to be calculated from my original departure (SFO), I would not be able to do this.. Is that correct? Total miles under 10,000

Also, since someone mentioning being able to do both directions SEA-LHR in first, coudl I do that from SFO? I am looking at the 'great circle mapper' so I am unsure which mileage calculations are correct. It shows SFO-LHR being 4665 miles..

confused.

Actually, it sounds like you're getting the hang of it!

But, which great circle mapper are you using? gc.kls2.com lists SFO-LHR at 5367 miles.

You're right, I do not know WHERE I got that 4665 miles from..

Guess theres no way to do a trip from SFO in First..I could do Seattle I guess if I wanted to do both ways in First.. but I really want to experience the Concorde, so that means I will have to start in JFK..

You could start somewhere like mid way across the US and use a AA/BA award for 1st class at 150,000 miles rather than just do the short JFK-LHR and back

Dave

How are you spelling that willyroo?


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OK, will this work?

JFK/LHR/ATH stopover, ATH/LHR stopover and then LHR/JFK?