Taxes on Award Bookings, what the?
Mar 6, 2006, 3:23 am
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Taxes on Award Bookings, what the?
Have searched through the QF forum can't find an answer, so sorry if its been answered.
Trying to book the family on award tickets in Dec06 CBR MEL rt
Can someone shed some light on how the award booking taxes are calculated? Tryed to find something in the T&C's had no luck. I'm sure the last time I booked an award seat the taxes were clearly labeled what for. Is it possible that QF can skim the taxes??
Becase to purchase the tickets the taxes were less?? 
Any help much appreciated.
Cheers
Trying to book the family on award tickets in Dec06 CBR MEL rt
Can someone shed some light on how the award booking taxes are calculated? Tryed to find something in the T&C's had no luck. I'm sure the last time I booked an award seat the taxes were clearly labeled what for. Is it possible that QF can skim the taxes??
Becase to purchase the tickets the taxes were less?? Any help much appreciated.
Cheers
Mar 6, 2006, 4:00 am
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On CBR-MEL, you would be much better off actually booking the flights using red e-deals rather than award flights. The cost in $$$ won't be that much more, and you will earn points as well.
The taxes on this sector will include a fuel fine, and CBR and MEL airport charges, plus GST on all of them. You will pay these whether it is an award ticket or a paid ticket. I myself would not be wasting points on a CBR-MEL award.
Dave
The taxes on this sector will include a fuel fine, and CBR and MEL airport charges, plus GST on all of them. You will pay these whether it is an award ticket or a paid ticket. I myself would not be wasting points on a CBR-MEL award.
Dave
Mar 6, 2006, 4:46 am
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Originally Posted by thadocta
On CBR-MEL, you would be much better off actually booking the flights using red e-deals rather than award flights. The cost in $$$ won't be that much more, and you will earn points as well.
The taxes on this sector will include a fuel fine, and CBR and MEL airport charges, plus GST on all of them. You will pay these whether it is an award ticket or a paid ticket. I myself would not be wasting points on a CBR-MEL award.
Dave
The taxes on this sector will include a fuel fine, and CBR and MEL airport charges, plus GST on all of them. You will pay these whether it is an award ticket or a paid ticket. I myself would not be wasting points on a CBR-MEL award.
Dave
Thanks again
Mar 6, 2006, 2:44 pm
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maybe you could post the actual taxes on paid and on award and we can see the difference.
To my mind they should not be charging gst on the flight part at least.
all other port charges should apply but certainly not MORE!
To my mind they should not be charging gst on the flight part at least.
all other port charges should apply but certainly not MORE!
Mar 6, 2006, 5:21 pm
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I just happened to have booked an award flight CBR-MEL return in April. The tax was $81.86 + GST = $90.05, which is still considerably cheaper than the red e-deal of $108 each way. And of course, the red e-deal wasn't available the day I had to fly, so I was looking at $261 ($159 fare + $102 taxes) for a purchased ticket. So, sometimes, just have to use points on CBR-MEL. But it looks like the taxes are similar between award and bought tickets.
Mar 6, 2006, 5:37 pm
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just looked at a ret cbr-mel and there are $94 taxes on the paid ticket so it LOOKS like they are charging GST on the value of the ticket.
I remember a lot of screaming on other forums about any hint of a tax on a free award.
what isnt it happening here?
are Qantas a law unto themselves?
I remember a lot of screaming on other forums about any hint of a tax on a free award.
what isnt it happening here?
are Qantas a law unto themselves?
Mar 6, 2006, 5:54 pm
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It does look a little fishy, but hard to work out without knowing the breakdown of charges. For the example I gave, GST should be $23.73 for the purchased ticket (1/11 of the total price), leaving other charges of $78.27 or so, which is simailar to, but not the same, as the charges on the award booking.
Mar 6, 2006, 6:45 pm
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award co-payment: not tax
Originally Posted by 3points
Can someone shed some light on how the award booking taxes are calculated?
Mar 6, 2006, 6:48 pm
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Originally Posted by dikko
It does look a little fishy, but hard to work out without knowing the breakdown of charges. For the example I gave, GST should be $23.73 for the purchased ticket (1/11 of the total price), leaving other charges of $78.27 or so, which is simailar to, but not the same, as the charges on the award booking.
Mar 6, 2006, 9:47 pm
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Some Levies/Charges accrue GST some don't. Also they vary regularly; what was true a week or two ago, may have changed today.
I just did two dummy bookings MEL-CBR-MEL for July one a red e-deal, the other a WHY Award.
The T/L/C's for the award came out at 90.05. The red e-deal came out at 215.45. This was composed of $114 for the base fare and $101.45 for the T/L/C's. If you add the GST on the $114 fare ($11.40) to the $90.05 T/L/C's for the award you end up with the same figure as for the T/L/C's on the purchased fare, $101.45.
So at least that is consistent.
I just did two dummy bookings MEL-CBR-MEL for July one a red e-deal, the other a WHY Award.
The T/L/C's for the award came out at 90.05. The red e-deal came out at 215.45. This was composed of $114 for the base fare and $101.45 for the T/L/C's. If you add the GST on the $114 fare ($11.40) to the $90.05 T/L/C's for the award you end up with the same figure as for the T/L/C's on the purchased fare, $101.45.
So at least that is consistent.
Mar 7, 2006, 5:38 am
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Also be aware that you may be offered MEL-SYD-CBR for the award flights, and that would incur two fuel fines instead of one for MEL-CBR direct. Now is it possible that the QF awards engine has been tuned to offer connecting flights to maximise the fuel fine revenue on award flights? I know when looking for BNE-PER-BNE awards, the only daytime flights with availability involved connections in SYD, MEL or ADL, making it a total of 4 fuel fines for the return journey.