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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 6:07 pm
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Help! Would QF FF program allow a one way

Award free ticket ? in C class from Australia to the US ?
Thanks in advance.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 6:20 pm
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Yes. All QF FF program rewards are one way. You can book as one way, or if you like a return at the same time (if you can find a reward seat). Getting business class a Oz US reward is very hard. Helps if you are top tier (Platinum) in the QF FF program.

QF reward tickets are far from "free". Need to pay $$ for fuel surcharges and taxes.

If you are trying to get an reward flight using AA points you are subject to the AA program rules

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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 6:57 pm
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Yes, one of the few positives when the QF FF program was eviscerated on 25/05/05 was the introduction of one way awards. This was a benefit to a small number of very frequent redeemers(sic) who were forced to burn the points for a return booking, even though they only wished to make a 1 way trip, prior to that date.
Now, all QF awards are 1 way.
Now, to your question. I assume by C you mean Business Class. In QF, these seats, when available are taken from the "U" availability bucket. You can redeem a 1 way business seat from SYD to LAX for yourself or an "eligible family member for ONLY 96,000 points.
This may help: https://www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/do/...PointsRedeemed to calculate the cost of some other 1 way redemptions. Good Luck. John.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 7:23 pm
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Your difficulty will be that before boarding in Australia you will need to convince the checkin agent that US immigration will allow you to arrive with a one-way ticket. So you may need to be able to prove onward travel beyond the USA or appropriate residency status.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 11:31 pm
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Thanks a million Folks...Now, I know what to do.
No problem with US Immigrations...my friends are returning home to the US, after their cruise ends there, in Australia.
Now off to the Coupon Connections board to find me those illusive 192K QF miles to trade for my AA miles.
Again, many thanks.

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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 3:01 am
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Originally Posted by AA2MM
Thanks a million Folks...Now, I know what to do.
No problem with US Immigrations...my friends are returning home to the US, after their cruise ends there, in Australia.
Now off the Coupon Connection board to find me those illusive 192K QF miles to trade for my AA miles.
Again, many thanks.
I wouldn't offer more than 60K AA miles, QF miles aren't real miles!! Probably the reason QF now offers one way travel after the latest changes is because you need a wheelbarrow full of QF miles to get anywhere decent.
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 3:26 am
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Originally Posted by rosesplus
I wouldn't offer more than 60K AA miles, QF miles aren't real miles!!
Did you mean no more than 60K AA miles for 96K QF miles, right ? not the 192K QF miles that I would need for 2 Biz class tickets .
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 3:58 am
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Be aware that the trading of QF FF Points is strickly against the terms and conditions of the program - do so at your own risk.

Also note that business class awards trans-Pacific are few and far between, so before investing in the QF FF points you may want to ensure you will actually be able to redeem them for the flight you want to take - especially if you are seeking two award seats on the same flight.
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 1:54 pm
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One way

Interestingly I have used a one-way rewards ticket from Sydney to Bangkok and never got The Question about return flights (October). Equally the only time I have ever been asked about onwards travel recently is when I've had a ticket ex-Bangkok return to the US. The United agents wanted to know that at the time of boarding in Bangkok (my return was several months in the future) that I had another ticket out of Bangkok to cover my return journey into Bangkok. It was quite bizarre
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 5:21 pm
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Originally Posted by RTWFF
Interestingly I have used a one-way rewards ticket from Sydney to Bangkok and never got The Question about return flights (October). Equally the only time I have ever been asked about onwards travel recently is when I've had a ticket ex-Bangkok return to the US. The United agents wanted to know that at the time of boarding in Bangkok (my return was several months in the future) that I had another ticket out of Bangkok to cover my return journey into Bangkok. It was quite bizarre
The requirement varies by country. For the USA, if you do not have residency status, it is the carrying airline's responsibility to ensure you have the right permission and documentation that is required for entry into the USA. If they carry you there and you are not permitted entry, the carrying airline not only has to carry you back to the point of origin, but they are slugged with a hefty fine for taking you there in the first place.

Requirement for non-resident entry to the USA includes the appropriate visa or eligibility for the visa waiver program, and proof of intended departure from the USA within the visa (or waiver) validity period.

Entry to Thailand may not have the same restrictions or requirements as for travel to the USA. I have no idea what the Thai government requires for entry, nor if they put the onus for verification onto the airline.
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 8:26 pm
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Originally Posted by NM
The requirement varies by country. For the USA, if you do not have residency status, it is the carrying airline's responsibility to ensure you have the right permission and documentation that is required for entry into the USA.
Exactly. And, as with everything else, different agents will check more carefully than others. I flew to the USA with UA once with several waitlisted return dates. Got there with no problems. While there, I flew to the UK. UA at LHR would not let me leave without giving me a confirmed booking for my return to Australia, even though UA in Australia had let it happen!
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 8:50 pm
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Originally Posted by rosesplus
I wouldn't offer more than 60K AA miles, QF miles aren't real miles!! Probably the reason QF now offers one way travel after the latest changes is because you need a wheelbarrow full of QF miles to get anywhere decent.
I really dont think that anyone will risk their account for a measly 60K AA miles. @:-)
AA miles are much easier to get than Q miles. I get 1K AA miles for every int oz flight and only 1k Q miles for a Qantas flight so 192K Qantas are worth at least 192AA. remember any AA plat member gets double miles while Qantas plats get 50% extra so actually its morth more!!
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 8:57 pm
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Originally Posted by tinkybelle
AA miles are much easier to get than Q miles. I get 1K AA miles for every int oz flight and only 1k Q miles for a Qantas flight so 192K Qantas are worth at least 192AA. remember any AA plat member gets double miles while Qantas plats get 50% extra so actually its morth more!!
That's wrong, a QF Plat gets 100% bonus. The difference is in the redemption eg a SYD-LAX-IAD in F is 384K on QF and only 145K on AA in F, same metal. The other reason you'd me crazy to exchange AA miles for QF miles is the availability on QF in J/F is extremely limited which is well documented.
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 11:37 pm
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Originally Posted by rosesplus
The other reason you'd me crazy to exchange AA miles for QF miles is the availability on QF in J/F is extremely limited which is well documented.
But the availability of J/F awards on QF metal is exactly the same for AA members using AA miles as it is for QF members using QF FF points.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 12:04 am
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Originally Posted by NM
But the availability of J/F awards on QF metal is exactly the same for AA members using AA miles as it is for QF members using QF FF points.
This is true but AA actually have a couple of aircraft that go to a few places that QF doesn't where award availability isn't linked to QF crumbs.
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