merrygp

ZRH-BOM is on A330-200 on Swissair.

thadocta

That's nice - and it is relevant because?

Dave

Russella

QF NB,
Thanks for the welcome!!! I will be travelling business both ways. I assume that the flight over won't have the new sky beds installed in the 747-300?? I thought that this is a direct flight, I noticed that a previous post had this route vis Darwin??
Thanks
Russella

thadocta

The 743 will not be getting Skybeds. The Mumbai flights will be changing to A330, which do not have the legs to do the trip non-stop, hence the stopover in DRW (PER would be better, by marketting wise would seem like a backwad step) - once converted to A330, the flights will be Skybed equipped.

(Seems to me that the Mumbai flights would be better suited to the 332, since they have longer legs, would need the floor strengthening issues to be resolved though).

Dave

NM

But with it being a two-sector route now, there is the opportunity to charge two Fuel Surcharges if they use the A330 and stop in Darwin .

I heard the floor strengthening process would cost $20M - but not sure if that is for one aircraft or all 4 of them? Probably no point in paying the costs now and just move them to JQ or AO when they shiny new aircraft arrive next decade . A much as the A332's are not ideally suited to domestic services, there is not a lot of options in the current fleet. Though A332 with Dreamtimes is probably a better option for some of the medium international services than 763 or 743 with Dreamtimes (thinking BOM, NRT, MNL) and start to make use of the A332's range capability.

infoworks

Speaking of fuel surcharges - this interesting bit in the SMH today:

Airline fuel surcharges have been labelled everything from a necessity to "money for jam".

But some fancy abacus work from Credit Suisse analysts confirms that Qantas passengers have indeed been picking up more than their fair share of the cost of aviation fuel.

As the table (right) shows, while some fuel surcharges on Qantas tickets have risen fourfold since their introduction in May last year, the price of Singapore jet aviation fuel in comparison has risen significantly less, up 70 per cent in US dollars and 56 per cent in Aussie dollars.

The analysts who crunched the numbers admitted "there is a significant disparity between the quantum of the increase and the increase in Singjet".

They explained the difference as "due to the reduction in hedging cover by Qantas through the period and the further reduction in hedging through the second half of 2006".

But CSFB thinks Qantas is still going to suffer from rising oil prices despite the surcharges. It has downgraded forecasts for Qantas net profit in 2006 by 8 per cent, 2007 by 12 per cent and 2008 by 9 per cent.

This is only a partial regurgitation. The full comment is here:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/xchange/f...191717804.html

Russella

[QUOTE=thadocta]The 743 will not be getting Skybeds. The Mumbai flights will be changing to A330, which do not have the legs to do the trip non-stop, hence the stopover in DRW (PER would be better, by marketting wise would seem like a backwad step) - once converted to A330, the flights will be Skybed equipped.

(Seems to me that the Mumbai flights would be better suited to the 332, since they have longer legs, would need the floor strengthening issues to be resolved though).

Dave[/QUOTE
Thadocta,
I checked my booking on the Qantas web site. QF123 on the 747-300 shows non-stop, 12.05mins as does QF124 on the A330-300, 12.05 on the return??? I hope they both have the legs!!!
Regards
Russella

infoworks

Going "north" headwinds may be a factor, coming back tailwinds help. e.g. AC was able to fly their 340 (not a 330 I know) non-stop SYD-YVR but had to refuel in HNL on the way out. Myabe there is a genuine DWN-BOM market!

NM

The QF124 BOM-SYD operated by A330-300 will be non-stop. Its only the outbound QF123 that will stop in Darwin when it is operated by A330-300.

Globaliser

Another demonstration by journalists of how to display numbers to innumerate people in a way which makes a wholly fallacious "point".

Where's the bucket?

infoworks

Probably being used to catch any drips for filling other fuel tanks

serfty

Interesting, all web sites I have checked show the SYD-BOM as non stop even though it may indeed stop in DRW.

More to the point; it seems impossible to book it ex DRW to BOM.

In fact, on the QF site, I requested a timetable DRW-BOM for 23rd December and it gave me:

Kiwi Flyer

isnt that normally the case for tech stop? keeps the time on the ground to a minimum

NM

Maybe that is because on 23rd December, QF123 is being operated by a 743 and hence is non-stop .
Even on a metric calender, 23rd December 2005 is before 8th Jan 2006 .

NM

From 8th Jan 2006, QF123 is being sold as DRW-BOM. But to get back to Darwin will require routing via SYD since the return A330-300 operated QF124 does not require the stop in DRW and hence is non-stop to SYD.