QF Wet Leasing AY A330’s with the new J seats
#16
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Overall a great seat
However, there is a metal rod in the footwell which can make some seats difficult to sleep in especially if you are not a side sleeper
Be careful with your seat selection
However, there is a metal rod in the footwell which can make some seats difficult to sleep in especially if you are not a side sleeper
Be careful with your seat selection
#17
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Secondly, my understanding is that AY will providing crew from their SIN base. Personally, I prefer the Finnish-based crew finding their SIN colleagues far less engaging. I understand the vagaries for QF crew performance however those expecting "better service" compared with some of the better performing QF crews are - in my opinion - likely to be disappointed.
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#19
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This old chestnut! ![Smilie](https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I'm fine to live with the middle seat free when I am routinely paying under A$400 return for a DUB-LHR-DUB in Club Europe, with my proper three course meal. The seat is not worth A$1,400 extra for a flight of 90 minutes block time, but that's exactly what Qantas charge and then provide a weaker food offering.
The lack of competition in Australia makes it this way, unfortunately (though, that being said, BA has no competition on DUB-LHR-DUB either when it comes to a J cabin).
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I'm fine to live with the middle seat free when I am routinely paying under A$400 return for a DUB-LHR-DUB in Club Europe, with my proper three course meal. The seat is not worth A$1,400 extra for a flight of 90 minutes block time, but that's exactly what Qantas charge and then provide a weaker food offering.
The lack of competition in Australia makes it this way, unfortunately (though, that being said, BA has no competition on DUB-LHR-DUB either when it comes to a J cabin).
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BA does have quite a lot of competition though on their other Euro routes, thus the better meal services across the board for consistency sake. However all of their competition, save a few widebodies doing local turns, use the same economy cabin configuration for "business" class. But to your point, LHR-DUB isn't so bad. But LHR-CAI... Come on!
Arguably, like the US, flights can be much longer in Australia, warranting a more comfortable J product.
#20
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Yeah, the arguement that will never die ![Wink](https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif)
BA does have quite a lot of competition though on their other Euro routes, thus the better meal services across the board for consistency sake. However all of their competition, save a few widebodies doing local turns, use the same economy cabin configuration for "business" class. But to your point, LHR-DUB isn't so bad. But LHR-CAI... Come on!
![Wink](https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif)
BA does have quite a lot of competition though on their other Euro routes, thus the better meal services across the board for consistency sake. However all of their competition, save a few widebodies doing local turns, use the same economy cabin configuration for "business" class. But to your point, LHR-DUB isn't so bad. But LHR-CAI... Come on!
Regards,
BD
#21
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QF292 SIN-SYD flown by AY ??
On the map of FR24 I saw an A330 flying from SIN to SYD. But it is an AY airframe and appears to be every day. And does not originate from HEL, the home hub of AY.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/qf292
Does QF have not enough aircrafts ?
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/qf292
Does QF have not enough aircrafts ?
#22
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Hi,
It is a wet lease iirc
More details here
QF Wet Leasing AY A330s with the new J seats - FlyerTalk Forums
Regards
TBS
It is a wet lease iirc
More details here
QF Wet Leasing AY A330s with the new J seats - FlyerTalk Forums
Regards
TBS
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Hi,
It is a wet lease iirc
More details here
QF Wet Leasing AY A330’s with the new J seats - FlyerTalk Forums
Regards
TBS
It is a wet lease iirc
More details here
QF Wet Leasing AY A330’s with the new J seats - FlyerTalk Forums
Regards
TBS
#25
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I flew on Feb 9 SYD-SIN for Chinese New Year. I booked this on a BA ticket just to really make it amusing.
There was a somewhat hilarious moment where a passenger at the gate had a major freakout because they didn't see a Qantas aircraft and refused to board because it was a Finnair plane. Not sure if their objections were overcome, but it seemed like a fairly extreme response. The flight was delayed and a no-show was offloaded, but unsure if it was this particular pax.
My experience aboard Qantas, Spirit of Fingapore was great overall. The Finnair crew were quite friendly, and it was interesting to have the QF catering and blankets and pillows on an AY aircraft as per the pics below.
![](https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.flyertalk.com-vbulletin/1247x1247/426175656_10169039339380422_7106096344126856361_n_1a1c3a78a0633ab3e365cfbceacd43e8ff795b2b.jpg)
Note the Qantas can being loaded onto the aircraft.
![](https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.flyertalk.com-vbulletin/1440x1440/426378786_10169039339365422_2372543947436775628_n_419ffa32186c349b50731405840980655c05991e.jpg)
Qantas cutlery with Finnair safety card.
![](https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.flyertalk.com-vbulletin/1440x1440/426332901_10169039339395422_6999769953298317292_n_8a136c837ac042995f91c4f56092ce984d8f52bf.jpg)
Self explanatory.
There was a somewhat hilarious moment where a passenger at the gate had a major freakout because they didn't see a Qantas aircraft and refused to board because it was a Finnair plane. Not sure if their objections were overcome, but it seemed like a fairly extreme response. The flight was delayed and a no-show was offloaded, but unsure if it was this particular pax.
My experience aboard Qantas, Spirit of Fingapore was great overall. The Finnair crew were quite friendly, and it was interesting to have the QF catering and blankets and pillows on an AY aircraft as per the pics below.
![](https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.flyertalk.com-vbulletin/1247x1247/426175656_10169039339380422_7106096344126856361_n_1a1c3a78a0633ab3e365cfbceacd43e8ff795b2b.jpg)
Note the Qantas can being loaded onto the aircraft.
![](https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.flyertalk.com-vbulletin/1440x1440/426378786_10169039339365422_2372543947436775628_n_419ffa32186c349b50731405840980655c05991e.jpg)
Qantas cutlery with Finnair safety card.
![](https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.flyertalk.com-vbulletin/1440x1440/426332901_10169039339395422_6999769953298317292_n_8a136c837ac042995f91c4f56092ce984d8f52bf.jpg)
Self explanatory.
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I flew on Feb 9 SYD-SIN for Chinese New Year. I booked this on a BA ticket just to really make it amusing.
There was a somewhat hilarious moment where a passenger at the gate had a major freakout because they didn't see a Qantas aircraft and refused to board because it was a Finnair plane. Not sure if their objections were overcome, but it seemed like a fairly extreme response. The flight was delayed and a no-show was offloaded, but unsure if it was this particular pax.
My experience aboard Qantas, Spirit of Fingapore was great overall. The Finnair crew were quite friendly, and it was interesting to have the QF catering and blankets and pillows on an AY aircraft as per the pics below.
![](https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.flyertalk.com-vbulletin/1247x1247/426175656_10169039339380422_7106096344126856361_n_1a1c3a78a0633ab3e365cfbceacd43e8ff795b2b.jpg)
Note the Qantas can being loaded onto the aircraft.
![](https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.flyertalk.com-vbulletin/1440x1440/426378786_10169039339365422_2372543947436775628_n_419ffa32186c349b50731405840980655c05991e.jpg)
Qantas cutlery with Finnair safety card.
![](https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.flyertalk.com-vbulletin/1440x1440/426332901_10169039339395422_6999769953298317292_n_8a136c837ac042995f91c4f56092ce984d8f52bf.jpg)
Self explanatory.
There was a somewhat hilarious moment where a passenger at the gate had a major freakout because they didn't see a Qantas aircraft and refused to board because it was a Finnair plane. Not sure if their objections were overcome, but it seemed like a fairly extreme response. The flight was delayed and a no-show was offloaded, but unsure if it was this particular pax.
My experience aboard Qantas, Spirit of Fingapore was great overall. The Finnair crew were quite friendly, and it was interesting to have the QF catering and blankets and pillows on an AY aircraft as per the pics below.
![](https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.flyertalk.com-vbulletin/1247x1247/426175656_10169039339380422_7106096344126856361_n_1a1c3a78a0633ab3e365cfbceacd43e8ff795b2b.jpg)
Note the Qantas can being loaded onto the aircraft.
![](https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.flyertalk.com-vbulletin/1440x1440/426378786_10169039339365422_2372543947436775628_n_419ffa32186c349b50731405840980655c05991e.jpg)
Qantas cutlery with Finnair safety card.
![](https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.flyertalk.com-vbulletin/1440x1440/426332901_10169039339395422_6999769953298317292_n_8a136c837ac042995f91c4f56092ce984d8f52bf.jpg)
Self explanatory.
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