Syd-Lax 787-9
Sep 10, 2020, 5:26 am
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Syd-Lax 787-9
I have a booking 01 July 2021 SYD-LAX which in the last day or so has been changed from a A380 to a 787-9 QF11
(seat map with my booking 3 weeks ago was a A380)
This comes as a bit of a shock as I thought some of the refurb A380 would stick to the LA run, they must have pulled the pin on the A380 for this route.
(seat map with my booking 3 weeks ago was a A380)
This comes as a bit of a shock as I thought some of the refurb A380 would stick to the LA run, they must have pulled the pin on the A380 for this route.
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Sep 10, 2020, 5:34 am
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The QF CEO has previously announced that he anticipates that all of their A380s are to be mothballed for probably at least three years. Most are already at Victorville.
Given this, for some strange reason, QF have been very slow in removing that aircraft type from schedules.
Given this, for some strange reason, QF have been very slow in removing that aircraft type from schedules.
Sep 10, 2020, 8:45 am
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I have a booking 01 July 2021 SYD-LAX which in the last day or so has been changed from a A380 to a 787-9 QF11
(seat map with my booking 3 weeks ago was a A380)
This comes as a bit of a shock as I thought some of the refurb A380 would stick to the LA run, they must have pulled the pin on the A380 for this route.
(seat map with my booking 3 weeks ago was a A380)
This comes as a bit of a shock as I thought some of the refurb A380 would stick to the LA run, they must have pulled the pin on the A380 for this route.
Better than even chances the QF A380 will never return to QF passenger service
The B787 are also in storage. Mid 2021 has been reported as when QF may start long haul again,
20 Aug 2020 ---> Qantas CEO Alan Joyce rules out flights until COVID-19 vaccine is ready
Mr Joyce said despite hopes of a trans-Tasman travel bubble opening sooner than other international routes, he squashed any plans of recommencing flights to the US.“We have parked the A380 for at least three years … We have put the 787s in long-term storage which fly transcontinental and we believe the earliest we will see the international borders opening up is the middle of next year,” he said.
Sep 10, 2020, 9:25 am
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I have a booking 01 July 2021 SYD-LAX which in the last day or so has been changed from a A380 to a 787-9 QF11
(seat map with my booking 3 weeks ago was a A380)
This comes as a bit of a shock as I tho
(seat map with my booking 3 weeks ago was a A380)
This comes as a bit of a shock as I tho
The fact that the A380 is not going to return to service anytime soon, is well known.
You have made the decision to make a booking - but you knew full well that no one can predict how the travel world would look like in July 2021.
Sep 10, 2020, 4:56 pm
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No one knows when the transpacific on Qantas will resume.
The fact that the A380 is not going to return to service anytime soon, is well known.
You have made the decision to make a booking - but you knew full well that no one can predict how the travel world would look like in July 2021.
The fact that the A380 is not going to return to service anytime soon, is well known.
You have made the decision to make a booking - but you knew full well that no one can predict how the travel world would look like in July 2021.
I was informing fellow flyertalkers of the change of aircraft, I am not sure why you had to give me a lecture on my decision making.
Sep 11, 2020, 2:16 pm
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I made a decision to a RTW itinerary one year ago Syd to Lax was one leg for June 2020, this of course did no eventuate and it was rescheduled to Sept 2020 that also has not occurred and it is now rebooked to July 2021.
I was informing fellow flyertalkers of the change of aircraft, I am not sure why you had to give me a lecture on my decision making.
I was informing fellow flyertalkers of the change of aircraft, I am not sure why you had to give me a lecture on my decision making.
Sep 11, 2020, 2:57 pm
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And better than an even chance the QF A380 will never return to QF passenger service.
World wide airlines/aircraft/routes with first class are decreasing. Covid-19 has increased that.
Sep 11, 2020, 3:12 pm
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I'm surprised QF isn't considering alternatives... they can offer a small F cabin on select 787 frames
Sep 11, 2020, 4:49 pm
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Sep 12, 2020, 9:03 pm
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I was totally aware of Alan Joyce's comments of the benching of the a380 aircraft for 3 years, my opinion is that there will be a reversal of this decision given the Olympic Games of July 2021 plus the expected rush on bookings for overseas travel, given that there will be a huge chance of a vaccine by then, i may be wrong, it just doesn't make sense for Alan Joyce to go the early crow.
Sep 13, 2020, 2:41 am
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I was totally aware of Alan Joyce's comments of the benching of the a380 aircraft for 3 years, my opinion is that there will be a reversal of this decision given the Olympic Games of July 2021 plus the expected rush on bookings for overseas travel, given that there will be a huge chance of a vaccine by then, i may be wrong, it just doesn't make sense for Alan Joyce to go the early crow.
Sep 14, 2020, 11:19 am
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Reasonable speculation though. They'll definitely be using the crisis to extract concessions. Sstating that they will be parking aircraft for 3 years when they have no idea how long it will actually be is clearly calibrated to send a message to politicians.
Sep 14, 2020, 2:03 pm
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Getting off topic for A380 to B787 substitution
Putting pressure on politicians, unions, airports and financiers will be all part of the same tactics.
Have read 20 airlines are flying into AU, but QF have chosen not to fly internationally. Even to NZ South Pacific (B737 range)
Reasonable speculation though. They'll definitely be using the crisis to extract concessions. Stating that they will be parking aircraft for 3 years when they have no idea how long it will actually be is clearly calibrated to send a message to politicians.
Have read 20 airlines are flying into AU, but QF have chosen not to fly internationally. Even to NZ South Pacific (B737 range)
Sep 14, 2020, 2:29 pm
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With a maximum of 50 passengers on NZ-AU flights and restrictions on travel, perhaps Qantas feels flying to NZ is not worthwhile
In the end, it is a public limitied company and if it chooses not to fly, then politicians should not be involved ; it is a matter for shareholders
In the end, it is a public limitied company and if it chooses not to fly, then politicians should not be involved ; it is a matter for shareholders