Brace for Enhancement [changes from 20 Jun 2019]
Jun 20, 2019, 3:42 pm
#31
Join Date: Apr 2007
Programs: QF, VA, AC, Hyatt, Marriott
Posts: 3,784
LT WP was always something I had hoped would come one day and I told myself I would move more of my business to QF when this happens. Now if you just qualify for Platinum every year you need 50+ years to get lifetime WP. This really now becomes a problem of your lifetime. Even as a Platinum One you need 20 years to get there. This is insane. 7000 for lifetime silver, 14000 for LT SG, maybe 28000 for lifetime WP would have been sensible but 75000 is just crazy. Would somebody know how this compares to lifetime gold (OW Emerald) on BA?
Jun 20, 2019, 4:55 pm
#32
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Christchurch, New Zealand
Programs: NZ Elite; QF Platinum; CZ Gold; MU Platinum; Marriott Titanium; Accor Platinum
Posts: 1,467
"the biggest overhaul to the airline’s loyalty program in its 32 year history"?
I still dont get it, how on earth is this "the biggest overhaul to the airline’s loyalty program in its 32 year history"? What is so earth shattering about this?
Unless its referring to the unachievable lifetime platinum which presumably very few people will ever get, or is it the silly points club that will crowd up the lounges?
Unless its referring to the unachievable lifetime platinum which presumably very few people will ever get, or is it the silly points club that will crowd up the lounges?
Jun 20, 2019, 5:29 pm
#33
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: NT Australia
Programs: QF WP
Posts: 4,160
I still dont get it, how on earth is this "the biggest overhaul to the airline’s loyalty program in its 32 year history"? What is so earth shattering about this?
Unless its referring to the unachievable lifetime platinum which presumably very few people will ever get, or is it the silly points club that will crowd up the lounges?
Unless its referring to the unachievable lifetime platinum which presumably very few people will ever get, or is it the silly points club that will crowd up the lounges?
Jun 20, 2019, 6:25 pm
#34
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 44,624
LT WP was always something I had hoped would come one day and I told myself I would move more of my business to QF when this happens. Now if you just qualify for Platinum every year you need 50+ years to get lifetime WP. This really now becomes a problem of your lifetime. Even as a Platinum One you need 20 years to get there. This is insane. 7000 for lifetime silver, 14000 for LT SG, maybe 28000 for lifetime WP would have been sensible but 75000 is just crazy. Would somebody know how this compares to lifetime gold (OW Emerald) on BA?
Jun 20, 2019, 8:12 pm
#35
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: SYD
Programs: QF PS and spouse of QP Senior Lifer PS, UA, AA, DL, AS, AV
Posts: 762
AA scheme was already cheaper than QF scheme for premium cabin rewards on OW metal (including QF).
Now the relative cheapness of AA for premium cabin rewards has increased.
Now the relative cheapness of AA for premium cabin rewards has increased.
Jun 20, 2019, 9:51 pm
#36
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: +61
Programs: SQ*PPS, QF-WP1 & LTG, VA-Gold, Marriott*LTT, Hilton*Gold, Accor*Platinum
Posts: 5,735
On one hand I'm sad I credited to other programs (SQ, VA, AA instead of QF) ... but that would only take me to ~59k status credits instead of the 29k I have today.
On the other hand I value my 1m AA points a bit more than QF ones ... If only AU-US availability existed in J!
On the other hand I value my 1m AA points a bit more than QF ones ... If only AU-US availability existed in J!
Jun 20, 2019, 10:13 pm
#37
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Qantas is currently far too generous with its awards at only 96k to 139k business and 144k to 203k in 1st ( plus of course co-payments on many routes ) , so makes sense that it is increasing the requirements to 108k-119k business and 162k-227k 1st
Last edited by Dave Noble; Jun 20, 2019 at 10:21 pm
Jun 21, 2019, 1:31 am
#38
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,512
I’ve been thinking about this and the only conclusion I can come to is the reason this is ‘the biggest shakeup to the scheme in 32 years’ is because now they’re explicitly saying ‘It’s not a frequent flyer program, its a frequent shopper program’
Jun 21, 2019, 5:09 am
#39
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: OOL/DOH
Programs: QF LTS WP, Avis Pres Club, HH Diam.
Posts: 3,192
So from my POV;
LTP - meh. Never going to achieve it.
Glad the goal posts have not shifted on LTG (and LTS) as I am almost at LTG.
Increase in points required for premium fares - not great.
Reduction in fees - I will reserve my opinion.
Most of my points come from flying not spending. Yes, this is all about me.
LTP - meh. Never going to achieve it.
Glad the goal posts have not shifted on LTG (and LTS) as I am almost at LTG.
Increase in points required for premium fares - not great.
Reduction in fees - I will reserve my opinion.
Most of my points come from flying not spending. Yes, this is all about me.
Jun 21, 2019, 9:13 am
#40
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: SYD
Programs: QF PS and spouse of QP Senior Lifer PS, UA, AA, DL, AS, AV
Posts: 762
If the announcement has truth to it, there should be more availability to use 80k for a business award or 110k for a 1st award between AU and US
Qantas is currently far too generous with its awards at only 96k to 139k business and 144k to 203k in 1st ( plus of course co-payments on many routes ) , so makes sense that it is increasing the requirements to 108k-119k business and 162k-227k 1st
Qantas is currently far too generous with its awards at only 96k to 139k business and 144k to 203k in 1st ( plus of course co-payments on many routes ) , so makes sense that it is increasing the requirements to 108k-119k business and 162k-227k 1st
AFAIK the new partners don't fly that route?
Also why is a QFreward price already higher than an AA reward price, plus the QF fuel surcharge not present on AA, currently "far too generous"? Or was that sarcasm which I missed?
Jun 21, 2019, 10:47 am
#41
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: NUE,MUC,INN,FDH
Programs: QF LTG, LH (SEN*** till 02/26), AF, AA, AB-G†
Posts: 2,076
Jun 21, 2019, 2:27 pm
#42
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Originally Posted by QF ExLurker
Also why is a QFreward price already higher than an AA reward price, plus the QF fuel surcharge not present on AA, currently "far too generous"? Or was that sarcasm which I missed?
Jun 21, 2019, 6:55 pm
#43
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Singapore
Programs: QF LTG, SQ EGTP, Bonvoy LTG
Posts: 4,847
Jun 21, 2019, 7:27 pm
#44
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: SYD
Programs: QF PS and spouse of QP Senior Lifer PS, UA, AA, DL, AS, AV
Posts: 762
If Qantas is increasing availability of seats on its flight such as implied by its statiement, then there would hopefully be an increase in the availability of award flights on Qantas flights between US and AU.
it was sarcasm based on fact thsat QF awards are already ridiculously expensive
it was sarcasm based on fact thsat QF awards are already ridiculously expensive
My interpretation of the statement is that all of the extra reward seats worldwide are on the new partners, which doesn't help for AU-US.
NZ is one of the new partners, but they auction off their unsold J seats AFAIK.
Your sarcasm re relative reward costs was well founded. I've been buying AA miles when they are heavily discounted, and redeeming on J, but not on AU-US route because minimal availability. For SYD-HNL I buy JQ "J" which is really premium economy.. Then HNL to anywhere in continental USA has good J reward availability on AA.
Jun 21, 2019, 8:16 pm
#45
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: ADL, AKL & SIN
Programs: QF WP/LTG
Posts: 854
Requesting upgrades now for flights post-enhancement
I have a ticketed flight SIN to MEL for Mar 2020.
Yesterday I put in a Y to J upgrade request.
It was registered successfully and the number of points required was still listed as 50K.
The Qantas website classic upgrade award table also breaks down the new and old rates under "Requested before 17 Sept" and Requested after 18 Sept".
Given that my flight is in Mar 2020, if the upgrade clears, will they deduct according to the old table or the new table?
Yesterday I put in a Y to J upgrade request.
It was registered successfully and the number of points required was still listed as 50K.
The Qantas website classic upgrade award table also breaks down the new and old rates under "Requested before 17 Sept" and Requested after 18 Sept".
Given that my flight is in Mar 2020, if the upgrade clears, will they deduct according to the old table or the new table?