Powerbank confiscated in BKK
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Powerbank confiscated in BKK
I had a 50000mAh powerbank confiscated in BKK when flying Qantas to SYD. I think Qantas is liable because their CoC do not prohibit this size of powerbank in hand luggage. I contacted Qantas customer service and they decline to help. Are they liable?
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It is within the limit . See http://r.ebay.com/Xdqjmw
Last edited by sam; Apr 17, 2018 at 12:20 am Reason: Made mistake
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It has not changed. Looking at the internet archive this was in place many months ago as well. If you had 50Ah and assuming this was a normal 5V USB Powerbank you had 250Wh with you but only 160Wh are allowed. In addition, even if you had a Powerbank of 30Ah you would have still required written authorization by Qantas to carry it.
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It has not changed. Looking at the internet archive this was in place many months ago as well. If you had 50Ah and assuming this was a normal 5V USB Powerbank you had 250Wh with you but only 160Wh are allowed. In addition, even if you had a Powerbank of 30Ah you would have still required written authorization by Qantas to carry it.
It was within the limit though. 50000mAh doesn't equal 50Ah. I think this is because of the way they quote powerbank capacity. My powerbank had 6-8Ah at 18-20V which is within the limit.
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See here
The Back Shed: Let the buyer beware of USB charger pack for explanation
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50000 mAH equals 50Ah. But even 6Ah at 18V would have required prior written approval by QF before even checking in.
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According to the ebay link provided, it has 50000 mAh = 50 Ah and Voltage: 5v
From the Qantas baggage site. https://www.qantas.com/travel/airlin...ose-powerbanks , it states
Watt hours (Wh) are determined by multiplying the voltage (V) by the amp hours (Ah). ie. 12V x 5Ah = 60Wh (sic)
For your item , the Wh = 5 * 50 = 250Wh
According to dangerous goods list,
◾Lithium ion batteries exceeding 160Wh (not including mobility aid batteries)
are prohibited
The agent in Bangkok was correct and Qantas has no liability
From the Qantas baggage site. https://www.qantas.com/travel/airlin...ose-powerbanks , it states
Watt hours (Wh) are determined by multiplying the voltage (V) by the amp hours (Ah). ie. 12V x 5Ah = 60Wh (sic)
For your item , the Wh = 5 * 50 = 250Wh
According to dangerous goods list,
◾Lithium ion batteries exceeding 160Wh (not including mobility aid batteries)
are prohibited
The agent in Bangkok was correct and Qantas has no liability
Last edited by Dave Noble; Apr 17, 2018 at 12:42 am
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The manufacturer's site ( http://www.maxoak.net/laptop-power-bank/show/11.html ) states
REAL ULTRA HIGH CAPACITY 50000mAh/185Wh
185Wh exceeds Qantas's stated limit of 160Wh
The maufacturer's site also states
Originally Posted by http://www.maxoak.net/laptop-power-bank/show/11.html
Tips/Attention:
Can charge Surface Pro 3(but need buy the cable yourself-DC5.5*2.1mm to surface pro connector)
Can charge surface pro 4 ( if the DC output voltage is 12V)
Cann't charge Surface Pro 4(only if DC voltage is 15V)
Cann’t charge Lenovo Yoga 3 14, yoga 900(20V 3.21A), yoga 3 11 13 milx 4 700s(20v 2a)
Cann’t charge dell xps 12(Type C)
Cann't charge Apple Laptop
Cann't take on airplane (185Wh)
Can charge Surface Pro 3(but need buy the cable yourself-DC5.5*2.1mm to surface pro connector)
Can charge surface pro 4 ( if the DC output voltage is 12V)
Cann't charge Surface Pro 4(only if DC voltage is 15V)
Cann’t charge Lenovo Yoga 3 14, yoga 900(20V 3.21A), yoga 3 11 13 milx 4 700s(20v 2a)
Cann’t charge dell xps 12(Type C)
Cann't charge Apple Laptop
Cann't take on airplane (185Wh)
Last edited by Dave Noble; Apr 17, 2018 at 3:20 am
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It was a very quick and easy check of the QF web site to find the requirements relating to this issue: https://www.qantas.com/travel/airlin...ose-powerbanks
I'm very happy that QF enforces these rules for the obvious reasons.
I'm very happy that QF enforces these rules for the obvious reasons.
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It was a very quick and easy check of the QF web site to find the requirements relating to this issue: https://www.qantas.com/travel/airlin...ose-powerbanks
I'm very happy that QF enforces these rules for the obvious reasons.
I'm very happy that QF enforces these rules for the obvious reasons.
The reality is that Qantas were happy to take it but this particular airport was not. Every other airport is happy to take it (I have flown with it ~50 times). Qantas argument was that the airport was liable not them.
Of course, now I know that it is 185Wh I will not try to fly with it again. However, following Qantas guidelines (to determine Wh by multiplying voltage and Amp Hours) it was reasonable of me to assume it was OK and therefore unreasonable of Qantas not to compensate me for its loss (imho - but I realise I'm not getting much support for this view here ).