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Old Apr 19, 2018, 3:56 pm
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Originally Posted by southpac
The Qantas 744s are getting very tired.
Have you flown in one during the last year or two?

Tired? All re furbished in the last few years.

Oldest is just under 20 year, youngest 15 years.


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Old Apr 19, 2018, 4:21 pm
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oldest seems to be 25 years old. Youngest seems to be 15 years old.

Most airlines have got rid of most of their 744s.

Guess Qantas owns some or all of their 744s so guess cheap to keep going except use bit more fuel.

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Old Apr 19, 2018, 6:16 pm
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Originally Posted by southpac
oldest seems to be 25 years old. Youngest seems to be 15 years old.
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The the 25yo aircraft began service with Qantas in 1998 after spending five years with Asiana.

It's interior was refurbished last year.

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Old Apr 19, 2018, 7:39 pm
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still an old tired aircraft(not talking about interior). Things break more often in older aircraft.
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Old Apr 19, 2018, 7:48 pm
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two additional points

I can add two additional observations:
- Qantas has a longstanding codeshare with WS - which serves most CA cities;
- I don't think Qantas can compete with the excellent fares Air New Zealand offers via its 3 North American gateways (LAX. SFO, YVR).
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Old Apr 19, 2018, 8:08 pm
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Originally Posted by southpac
still an old tired aircraft(not talking about interior). Things break more often in older aircraft.
Somewhat of a generalisation. Things break in newish aircraft too. QF have experience of that (380, 744, 330 and a recent 738 flight of mine that stayed out of the news - somehow). And IIRC the 787s, their batteries and RR engines also come to mind. I find it hard to substantiate the generalisation about old aircraft based on this. Oh, and then there was the crack in the cabin of the newish 2nd hand 744 that QF got from (IIRC OZ or MH). But, if you have insider information please elaborate.
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Old Apr 19, 2018, 8:45 pm
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Air NZ fares aren't that special, but they do try & undercut all the nonstop fares to LAX, SFO & YVR.
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Old Apr 20, 2018, 5:56 am
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Originally Posted by Antonio8069
Air New Zealand offers via its 3 North American gateways (LAX. SFO, YVR).
and now Houston as well.
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and now Houston as well.
And Chicago as well from November.
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Old Apr 21, 2018, 4:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Antonio8069
I can add two additional observations:
- Qantas has a longstanding codeshare with WS - which serves most CA cities;
- I don't think Qantas can compete with the excellent fares Air New Zealand offers via its 3 North American gateways (LAX. SFO, YVR).
NZ will soon have 6 North American gateways, all of which can be used on routings to other places in North America depending on destination.
HNL, LAX, SFO, YVR, IAH and later this year ORD.
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