9 years after, the story of QF72's air-data computer failure
May 14, 2017, 6:03 pm
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9 years after, the story of QF72's air-data computer failure
I found this an interesting read, especially as someone who works on avionics software for a living. I do not remember the story when it originally hit in 2008.
The untold story of QF72: What happens when 'psycho' automation leaves pilots powerless?
The untold story of QF72: What happens when 'psycho' automation leaves pilots powerless?
May 14, 2017, 6:21 pm
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I found this an interesting read, especially as someone who works on avionics software for a living. I do not remember the story when it originally hit in 2008.
The untold story of QF72: What happens when 'psycho' automation leaves pilots powerless?
The untold story of QF72: What happens when 'psycho' automation leaves pilots powerless?
May 14, 2017, 7:10 pm
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Both were very big stories in Australia when they happened. The 747 suffered an oxygen cylinder explosion which caused it to penetrate the passenger cabin and exit the external skin near a door. IIRC both were"unprededented one of a kind" situations. Plenty of (official) accident reports have been around for quite some time. Seems the media has only just discovered the story.
May 14, 2017, 9:13 pm
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May 14, 2017, 9:38 pm
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The story itself was big at the time, as well as the follow up regarding passengers suing various parties. Especially when at the time the conclusion was it was caused by plane error. Subsequently all airbus aircraft got a software upgrade.
But yes there haven't been any interviews from anyone directly involved.
But yes there haven't been any interviews from anyone directly involved.
May 14, 2017, 10:38 pm
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The article was a very interesting read. Very fortunate to have such a cool cucumber with Top Gun training in the cockpit for that flight.
Incredible to learn there wasn't a manual override (if that's the correct term in a fly by wire world) and illustrates the Airbus v Boeing philosophy.
Incredible to learn there wasn't a manual override (if that's the correct term in a fly by wire world) and illustrates the Airbus v Boeing philosophy.
May 15, 2017, 12:13 am
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The article was a very interesting read. Very fortunate to have such a cool cucumber with Top Gun training in the cockpit for that flight.
Incredible to learn there wasn't a manual override (if that's the correct term in a fly by wire world) and illustrates the Airbus v Boeing philosophy.
Incredible to learn there wasn't a manual override (if that's the correct term in a fly by wire world) and illustrates the Airbus v Boeing philosophy.
"In the Boeing 747 jumbo – the backbone of global aviation for almost five decades – pilots' control sticks are connected by wires and pulleys to parts of the plane such as the tail. In newer planes, pilots adjust a side-stick to make requests of the flight computer to move."
May 15, 2017, 2:36 am
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In terms of safety, additional technology is never a one-way street.
Even for something as beneficial as immunisation, which has dramatically improved health, there are still a few people who are damaged by the immunisation itself.
As an engineer (though not in aeronautics), I'm not surprised that there has been a situation where technology increased danger rather than lessened it. The question is: what is the overall cost-benefit?
Even for something as beneficial as immunisation, which has dramatically improved health, there are still a few people who are damaged by the immunisation itself.
As an engineer (though not in aeronautics), I'm not surprised that there has been a situation where technology increased danger rather than lessened it. The question is: what is the overall cost-benefit?
May 15, 2017, 4:06 am
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The article could have made a better point of the philosophy difference, but instead it sort of muddied the water at one part by comparing the 747 to "newer planes" and then describing an Airbus cockpit with the side-stick.
"In the Boeing 747 jumbo – the backbone of global aviation for almost five decades – pilots' control sticks are connected by wires and pulleys to parts of the plane such as the tail. In newer planes, pilots adjust a side-stick to make requests of the flight computer to move."
"In the Boeing 747 jumbo – the backbone of global aviation for almost five decades – pilots' control sticks are connected by wires and pulleys to parts of the plane such as the tail. In newer planes, pilots adjust a side-stick to make requests of the flight computer to move."
Jul 17, 2017, 11:15 pm
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Has anyone read QF32?
https://www.amazon.com/QF32-Richard-.../dp/B007KTLQ5W
https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/qf32/id511178147?mt=11
Remarkable story of Cockpit Resource Management and piloting skills that saved a 380.
https://www.amazon.com/QF32-Richard-.../dp/B007KTLQ5W
https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/qf32/id511178147?mt=11
Remarkable story of Cockpit Resource Management and piloting skills that saved a 380.
Mar 22, 2020, 11:56 pm
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Youtube on QF72 by Sunday Night True Stories in Australia has over 5 million views. Captain Sullivan has a book out called "No Man's Land". My first post so I can't post links. : ) Never met the Captain and nothing in it for me to post. Just highest respect for him and his journey.
Mar 23, 2020, 3:28 pm
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