QFF - Malaysia Airlines - Fare Class 'N'
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QFF - Malaysia Airlines - Fare Class 'N'
Has anyone had any experience of crediting a Malaysia Airlines flight in Fare bucket 'N' (Economy bought at a travel expo) to QFF? Qantas website doesn't mention it but also doesn't specifically exclude it but British Airways seem to credit to Executive Club at 25%.
Reason for asking is if we are able to get miles/status credits we will only be 10 credits from Silver card so I will book a domestic flight to get us over the line, especially if there's double miles on offer this week!
Thanks
Reason for asking is if we are able to get miles/status credits we will only be 10 credits from Silver card so I will book a domestic flight to get us over the line, especially if there's double miles on offer this week!
Thanks
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They're buried under Frequent Flyer > calculators > Earning Points & Status Credits Calculator > Qantas Frequent Flyer Earn Categories.
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If your booking class doesn't appear here your flights do not earn points or status credits.
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So I noticed some of my MH rather full fare Business Class tickets were credited as "Flexible Economy" on QFF.
This was the answer i got. Seems very odd to credit a business fare as economy
"I've checked the points credited to your account for your travel and can confirm they have been calculated correctly. Flights between Australia and Malaysia booked in C, D, I, J and Z class will earn Flexible Economy Frequent Flyer Earn Category, however will receive Malaysia Airlines Business Class service."
I like the line about "business class service".
This was the answer i got. Seems very odd to credit a business fare as economy
"I've checked the points credited to your account for your travel and can confirm they have been calculated correctly. Flights between Australia and Malaysia booked in C, D, I, J and Z class will earn Flexible Economy Frequent Flyer Earn Category, however will receive Malaysia Airlines Business Class service."
I like the line about "business class service".
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So I noticed some of my MH rather full fare Business Class tickets were credited as "Flexible Economy" on QFF.
This was the answer i got. Seems very odd to credit a business fare as economy
"I've checked the points credited to your account for your travel and can confirm they have been calculated correctly. Flights between Australia and Malaysia booked in C, D, I, J and Z class will earn Flexible Economy Frequent Flyer Earn Category, however will receive Malaysia Airlines Business Class service."
I like the line about "business class service".
This was the answer i got. Seems very odd to credit a business fare as economy
"I've checked the points credited to your account for your travel and can confirm they have been calculated correctly. Flights between Australia and Malaysia booked in C, D, I, J and Z class will earn Flexible Economy Frequent Flyer Earn Category, however will receive Malaysia Airlines Business Class service."
I like the line about "business class service".
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If it's solely an issue of how much MH is prepared to pay for points then I stand corrected. Considering that the business class SC earn for a KUL-HKG flight is exactly the same on CX & BA flights as it is for MH according to the QF calculator, I doubt the amount MH are paying for QF points is the issue.
Of course QF will use this sort of thing to encourage people to book with them, nothing wrong with that practice in my opinion. For example a flight on any of BA, AY or JL BNE-SIN in business is only worth 60 SC instead of the 125 on QF. However an MH flight BNE-KUL is limited to 30SC regardless of whether flown in J. Now that we have established that payment rate for points is not the issue, and that other Oneworld airlines flying the same route are offering SC's for business class, the question becomes why aren't QF allowing MH to do the same thing.
I haven't looked at the issue in depth (rarely have the need to fly MH) but have been told by people in the industry who would be in a position to know such things, that QF's actions in this situation are the lingering result of the unpleasantness and hurt feelings after QF sponsored MH into Oneworld back in 2011, with visions of SE Asia cooperation, only to have it all fall apart. Cue Jetstar Asia etc.
Now I may well be wrong, but that's how I understand it. If there's another reason I'd be interested to hear about it.
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And meanwhile PER-KUL in business is worth 50SC (although that still the flexi-economy rate, business on the table is 100SC).
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Back to fare class 'N' - I traveled SIN-KUL-SIN on MH last weekend in 'N' class, switching FQTV to my Enrich account at the gates - earning ~180 points each way.
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I haven't looked at the issue in depth (rarely have the need to fly MH) but have been told by people in the industry who would be in a position to know such things, that QF's actions in this situation are the lingering result of the unpleasantness and hurt feelings after QF sponsored MH into Oneworld back in 2011, with visions of SE Asia cooperation, only to have it all fall apart. Cue Jetstar Asia etc.
Now I may well be wrong, but that's how I understand it. If there's another reason I'd be interested to hear about it.
Now I may well be wrong, but that's how I understand it. If there's another reason I'd be interested to hear about it.
So, it's bit of a mutual thing, and I wouldn't speculate on who started it - but it's quite childish on both sides.
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Just trying to think of any other mileage (non-revenue) based programs which award miles/status for full business class fares at the same rate as economy fares (understand there would be some that award full Y at the same or less than discounted business - rightfully so probably), but this situation seems to be fairly unique.