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Old Jan 20, 2016, 12:46 am
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Do all domestic QF flights offer business class?

I've had a bit of a nose around the QF forum but could not find the answer so please forgive my newbie question. As part of an Avios tier point run I am trying to find a way of squeezing in as many QF segments as possible in just a few hours, starting in SYD, ending in MEL. I was thinking along the lines of SYD-BNE-CBR-ADL-MEL or SYD-LDH-BNE-CBR-MEL. My question: Do all QF aircraft have a business cabin, even on short hops and propeller airplanes?

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Old Jan 20, 2016, 12:52 am
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Any props is a no. I'm not sure if all 717s have J in them but if the flight number if 15xx or 4xx it usually offers J. 14xx not.

Hence, no to LDH flights. And there's an odd prop service between BNE/MEL and CBR. Most SYD CBR flights are props.

If you're doing this part of a DONE then there are certainly some creative routes that can be integrated.
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 1:11 am
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Check award availability to/from LDH before getting too excited. And, factor in weather delays which DO happen on the LDH run. May not be the best choice if time is tight.
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 1:14 am
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Check award availability to/from LDH before getting too excited. And, factor in weather delays which DO happen on the LDH run. May not be the best choice if time is tight.
I think the OP is trying to build status, assuming under a D/AONE?
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 1:33 am
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Originally Posted by edy4eva
I think the OP is trying to build status, assuming under a D/AONE?
Yes - I think you're right. In haste I saw Avios and immediately thought "awards". Notwithstanding, since time is tight, I still think LDH would be a corrageous flight based on OP's proposed itinerary.
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 2:29 am
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Originally Posted by edy4eva
And there's an odd prop service between BNE/MEL and CBR. Most SYD CBR flights are props.
For Dash8 on SYD-CBR, it depends on the day. All flights on Saturdays are Dash8. Other days have more then half the flights on 717s.

In general, everything operated by QF mainline has a J cabin. Most Q-Link flights don't. Only part of the Q-Link 717 fleet has a J cabin. Those aircraft are generally used on flights to/from CBR.

In general:
QF1-199 QF operated International
QF200-399 Codeshare International
QF400-1399 QF mainline Domestic
QF1400-2399 Q-link. QF15xx are 717 flights with J.

QF5xxx JQ operated codeshare
QF6xxx ferry flights
QF8xxx EK operated codeshare
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 3:19 am
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BNE, TSV and DRW are good for J status runs.
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 4:03 am
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Originally Posted by Himeno
Most Q-Link flights don't. Only part of the Q-Link 717 fleet has a J cabin. Those aircraft are generally used on flights to/from CBR.
Actually Q-Link also operates to BNE and MEL from CBR, not just to SYD.
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 8:44 am
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Originally Posted by m0hamed
BNE, TSV and DRW are good for J status runs.
Not for BA Tier Points. The trick with BA TP's is either go for 2000+ mile sector (BNE-PER, SYD-PER) or fit in as many short sectors as possible, thus the importance of SYD-CBR. It's not as graduated as QFF SC's... in business <2000 miles (SYD-DRW or SYD-CBR) gets 40 TP's, >2000 miles gets 140 TP's. If looking at 4 sectors something like ADL-MEL-CBR-SYD-PER would be optimal.
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 8:45 am
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Originally Posted by edy4eva
Actually Q-Link also operates to BNE and MEL from CBR, not just to SYD.
At no point did I suggest they didn't.
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 11:37 am
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Originally Posted by lokijuh
Not for BA Tier Points. The trick with BA TP's is either go for 2000+ mile sector (BNE-PER, SYD-PER) or fit in as many short sectors as possible, thus the importance of SYD-CBR. It's not as graduated as QFF SC's... in business <2000 miles (SYD-DRW or SYD-CBR) gets 40 TP's, >2000 miles gets 140 TP's. If looking at 4 sectors something like ADL-MEL-CBR-SYD-PER would be optimal.
As my fare is mileage based the trick is indeed to try and cram as many segments into the overall MPM, hence my desire to find a string of short hops with ideal layover timings. As I only have eight hours to play with the best I've found so far is SYD-BNE-CBR-MEL in 6 hrs 20 mins. SYD-CBR-MEL offers the best mileage/tier points ratio but these sem to be the only short hops in the area that offer a business cabin. Someone please prove me wrong.
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Old Jan 31, 2016, 7:13 am
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Originally Posted by planestupid
As I only have eight hours to play with the best I've found so far is SYD-BNE-CBR-MEL in 6 hrs 20 mins. SYD-CBR-MEL offers the best mileage/tier points ratio but these sem to be the only short hops in the area that offer a business cabin. Someone please prove me wrong.
BNE is kinda trapping you in a corner. compared to SYD-BNE-CBR-MEL, it's 500 miles shorter to do syd-cbr-mel-adl [and ADL-HKG is nonstop nowadays on CX when it's time to head out]. or are you saying you absolutely must start at syd and end at mel? if so then it would still save 200 miles to do syd-cbr-adl-mel. actually HBA is the next closest Biz destination to MEL/CBR/SYD, but it has fewer Biz flights.
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