Domestic to International connection at Sydney
#16
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 416
Thanks everyone. It sounds like the consensus is it's doable (Qantas did suggest the itinerary) but not advisable so if I fly Qantas, I will be taking an earlier Melbourne to Sydney flight so that I allow myself at least 2 hours for the connection.
Will report back after my trip for future reference.
Thank you
Will report back after my trip for future reference.
Thank you
#17
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: HBA
Programs: Qantas FF Platinum, VA Velocity
Posts: 163
I'd say that's wise. Several people have reported making this connection in less than 60 minutes and I don't doubt them. But you might not get so lucky. You can wait up to 20 mins for the transfer bus, for example ...
#18
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Sydney
Programs: QFF WP/OWE
Posts: 368
I beg to differ with the rather optimistic comments suggesting that 1hr should be OK. There is noooo way I'd leave such little time, even if the first flight was on time. And worst of all, you'll spend the whole few days beforehand worrying about missing the flight to BKK. Best you leave ~3hrs, or get there the night before.
Remember, unless you're in the first few rows, you won't get off the aircraft until 15mins after touching down, then there's the walk, and the bus ride to the international terminal. QF23 leaves SYD at a peak period so security/customs is always running at a snail's pace too.
Remember, unless you're in the first few rows, you won't get off the aircraft until 15mins after touching down, then there's the walk, and the bus ride to the international terminal. QF23 leaves SYD at a peak period so security/customs is always running at a snail's pace too.
#19
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 416
I beg to differ with the rather optimistic comments suggesting that 1hr should be OK. There is noooo way I'd leave such little time, even if the first flight was on time. And worst of all, you'll spend the whole few days beforehand worrying about missing the flight to BKK. Best you leave ~3hrs, or get there the night before.
Remember, unless you're in the first few rows, you won't get off the aircraft until 15mins after touching down, then there's the walk, and the bus ride to the international terminal. QF23 leaves SYD at a peak period so security/customs is always running at a snail's pace too.
Remember, unless you're in the first few rows, you won't get off the aircraft until 15mins after touching down, then there's the walk, and the bus ride to the international terminal. QF23 leaves SYD at a peak period so security/customs is always running at a snail's pace too.
I still haven't purchased my ticket because I'm wondering if I'm being silly by not taking the direct Thai Airways flight as suggested by Dave Noble. I was feeling more partial to Qantas with the recent FAA downgrade of Thai, plus a few other factors (including ability to earn some Asia Miles) but if the connection in Sydney is that much of a pain, Thai may be the way to go.
Thanks again, appreciate everyone's input
#20
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 44,662
I still haven't purchased my ticket because I'm wondering if I'm being silly by not taking the direct Thai Airways flight as suggested by Dave Noble. I was feeling more partial to Qantas with the recent FAA downgrade of Thai, plus a few other factors (including ability to earn some Asia Miles) but if the connection in Sydney is that much of a pain, Thai may be the way to go.
Also, assuming allowing 2 hours connection in Sydney, adding 44% to travel time, taking a total journey time of 13:10 rather than 9:10 - as well as adding risk
Last edited by Dave Noble; Dec 29, 2015 at 5:00 pm
#22
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 416
Believe it or not, I did consider this being a big CX fan as they have always gotten me on my connecting flight one way or another, luggage and all! Already flying CX from JFK to MEL even thought it's a few extra hours' flying time. However since I'm looking to fly on a very specific day it I make this BKK trip, it doesn't look like they would be a good option based on fares I'm seeing. Appreciate the suggestion, though! ^
#23
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Wellington
Programs: QFWP (LTSG), NZ (Jade), TG ROP (Forgotten), OZ (Silver), AA (Cardboard), EK (Lowest of the Low)
Posts: 4,671
Personally I would not take TG, sure price is cheap but the airline has issues, and yes the chances of something going badly is remote but I still would not risk it. I would not fly them regardless of the bad service experience I have had in the past.
I would also not take a 1 hour connection in SYD. The stress and hassle from it, especially if it did go wrong is not how I would like to start a trip. IMO 2 hours is fine, the transfer is not that painful but I just do not think you would be as relaxed if your had more than an hour, but I too would not pick certain flights or airlines just to chase a few FFP, status points yes but not redemption points.
I hope it all works out regardless of what option you would chose.
I would also not take a 1 hour connection in SYD. The stress and hassle from it, especially if it did go wrong is not how I would like to start a trip. IMO 2 hours is fine, the transfer is not that painful but I just do not think you would be as relaxed if your had more than an hour, but I too would not pick certain flights or airlines just to chase a few FFP, status points yes but not redemption points.
I hope it all works out regardless of what option you would chose.
#25
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: HBA
Programs: Qantas FF Platinum, VA Velocity
Posts: 163
#27
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: HBA
Programs: Qantas FF Platinum, VA Velocity
Posts: 163
Enjoy your trip! 2.5 hours is perfect .... 2 hours should be fine, but nice to have an extra half hour up your sleeve just in case ,,,,
#29
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: mostly MEL
Programs: QF WP LTG, HHonors Diamond, NZ Gold
Posts: 1,750
Perhaps just as pertinent is *when* is the flight?
I would certainly avoid MEL-SYD (with connections) on a weekday morning with 1 hr connection versus, say, a weekend. Even if the flight left MEL on time, the chances of an enroute ATC hold are enough to bring me out in a cold sweat, even if the flight did leave MEL on time.
The other thing is the transfer bus. I've personally witnessed a lack of proactivity in the transfer lounge and late inbound passengers not called forward to the front of the queue. Only once the bus was 2/3 boarded - and it became evident those at the back of the queue would miss this particular bus - did a cry go up from the back of the queue and the gate agent then call forward those (yes, this resulted in my waiting a further 20mins for my bus but in this instance was not a problem).
Regards,
BD
I would certainly avoid MEL-SYD (with connections) on a weekday morning with 1 hr connection versus, say, a weekend. Even if the flight left MEL on time, the chances of an enroute ATC hold are enough to bring me out in a cold sweat, even if the flight did leave MEL on time.
The other thing is the transfer bus. I've personally witnessed a lack of proactivity in the transfer lounge and late inbound passengers not called forward to the front of the queue. Only once the bus was 2/3 boarded - and it became evident those at the back of the queue would miss this particular bus - did a cry go up from the back of the queue and the gate agent then call forward those (yes, this resulted in my waiting a further 20mins for my bus but in this instance was not a problem).
Regards,
BD
#30
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 416
Completed my trip and reporting back! Actual transfer between terminals took 25 minutes, but that's because my MEL-SYD flight was on time, there was no line at immigration, and the seamless transfer bus was right there for me to board. Probably for future transfers I would be comfortable with 90 minutes (I allowed myself 2.5 hours for this trip).
The funny part was my SYD-BKK flight was delayed by an hour so despite all the stressing out about the connection, it was the other flight that was the problem.
I have to say the electronic immigration stations at Sydney are amazing! I've never seen them before.
The funny part was my SYD-BKK flight was delayed by an hour so despite all the stressing out about the connection, it was the other flight that was the problem.
I have to say the electronic immigration stations at Sydney are amazing! I've never seen them before.