Sep 8, 2016, 6:42 am
Last edit by: serfty
For access to the Qantas First Lounge at TBIT just one of the following needs to be true:
- Non US (not AAdvantage and not Mileage Plan) oneworld Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and operated flight.
- AAdvantage or Mileage Plan Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- First Class passengers departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- Passengers in First Class on a flight longer than five hours connecting§ to/from an international or domestic short haul (five hours or less) oneworld Marketed and Operated flight and not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- *Recent Reports Indicate Access via the following Criteria is being Denied with patrons being sent to the Flagship Lounge in T4*: .First Class passengers^ travelling on a three class transcontinental American Airlines Marketed and Operated flight on a designated route (e.g. between Los Angeles & New York).
§ Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day. Such Lounge access is based on the class of services of the long haul flight (First or Business) regardless of the class of travel on the short haul flight.
^ Regarding AA EXP in any cabin. This is a "Class of Service" based access, so status should not be relevant. Rules indicate NO ACCESS unless in First on 3 class transcon, but there had been some contradictory experiences about this. Early on EXP based access had sometimes been granted; not so much these days. Presumably this related to confusion about the rules on behalf of the agents.
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Lounge access rules
All non-AA and Non-AS Oneworld Emerald members have access to this lounge on any oneworld itinerary regardless of cabin or final destination.
AA EXP have access when traveling to all destinations outside North America and Mexico City. Includes if pax is flying LAX-DFW-LHR because you are flying internationally that day.
No Class of Service access for domestic F without non AA and non AS Emerald status unless on designated (generally 3-class) flights to JFK and MIA.
Passengers on any 3-cabin AA flight to JFK, BOS or MIA in First Class.
Emirates pax do not have access except for Qantas Platinum One. EDIT: Appears to be that Qantas removed that access criteria from their lounge access page so I wouldn't count on this working.
No access if connecting to a non-Oneworld airline or partner.
Separate tickets within oneworld do not matter other than it has to be same day . E.g. QF F to AA Y on the same day.
To walk from T4 to TBIT will take approximately 10 minutes one way so plan accordingly if visiting this lounge.
More detail here: Lounge Access | oneworld.com
Qantas.com Access Rules, with specific carve-out for transcon markets.
Los Angeles / LAX Qantas First Class Lounge [Master Thread]
Dec 16, 2017, 2:01 pm
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Another Access Clarification Question.....
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The above excerpt from the QF website appears to differ from the current Wikipost in this thread.
As an AA EXP, I'll be arriving in 3-class First from JFK and connecting to an AA flight to SFO (not QF codeshare). Will I have access?
[/QUOTE]The above excerpt from the QF website appears to differ from the current Wikipost in this thread.
As an AA EXP, I'll be arriving in 3-class First from JFK and connecting to an AA flight to SFO (not QF codeshare). Will I have access?
Dec 16, 2017, 2:14 pm
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Dec 18, 2017, 7:41 pm
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Dec 18, 2017, 7:47 pm
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I don't believe you'd have access to the Qantas First lounge under oneworld rules.
Dec 20, 2017, 12:26 am
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Arriving from an international flight should still grant access (same day domestic connection) with reference to NOT solely on a "North American* Itinerary", or did that change? HKG-LAX-LAS as OWE (EXP/CK).
Dec 20, 2017, 1:38 am
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Not sure I totally understand the question, but on this itinerary, you'd definitely have access.
Dec 20, 2017, 2:12 am
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You are NOT solely on a "North American* Itinerary" - You itinerary needs to be taken as whole, so the HKG part of HKG-xLAX-LAS sees to that. With this, as an EXP you have status based access as indicated with point 2 of the Wiki.
Dec 21, 2017, 3:58 am
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My experience has been that they will start taking the lunch orders from 11:00, in fact they came upto me and offered the lunch menu (I'd had breakfast not long before) and ensured that they got the food out to me so that I could catch my 12:00 flight
Jan 12, 2018, 7:41 pm
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I am a QF P1 arriving at LAX on QF93 in F and my onward connection is QF3739 (codeshare operated by AS as AS465) in F. Based on this which appears on the QF website (Lounge Locations | North America | Los Angeles International Airport Tom Bradley Terminal | International First):
I will have access to the QF F lounge at LAX as my next onward flight that day has a QF flight number. It is not operated by QF, but that is not one of the conditions noted in the above (for OWE access, OWE marketed and operated flight is required).
Is my understanding correct or have I missed something? Many thanks for your assistance.
I will have access to the QF F lounge at LAX as my next onward flight that day has a QF flight number. It is not operated by QF, but that is not one of the conditions noted in the above (for OWE access, OWE marketed and operated flight is required).
Is my understanding correct or have I missed something? Many thanks for your assistance.
Jan 13, 2018, 4:32 pm
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Jan 13, 2018, 9:32 pm
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Your understanding is correct, departing LAX in a Qantas First fare bucket (F, A, P) on a QF flight number will get access.
