SYD-JFK: QF A380, QF 744 or CX (in J)
Dec 18, 2012, 3:30 am
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SYD-JFK: QF A380, QF 744 or CX (in J)
I'm interested in people's thoughts on the hard and soft J product on the SYD-JFK route.
My understanding is that all SYD-JFK 744s have A380 product so going on the "direct" route would keep that product across the US.
Alternatively, the A380 to LAX (good J product) means LAX customs and a switch to AA. Is the AA product decent?
Or alternatively, I can go CX through HKG (stop over and see friends) and only have international flights.
What do people prefer?
Thanks in advance
My understanding is that all SYD-JFK 744s have A380 product so going on the "direct" route would keep that product across the US.
Alternatively, the A380 to LAX (good J product) means LAX customs and a switch to AA. Is the AA product decent?
Or alternatively, I can go CX through HKG (stop over and see friends) and only have international flights.
What do people prefer?
Thanks in advance
Dec 18, 2012, 3:40 am
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What's the price differential? Often CX is cheaper than QF to the US and if that's the case I would definitely take CX as you will get the new J seats. These seats are fully flat and you won't have anyone walking over you to get out - very private and loads of space.
Dec 18, 2012, 7:21 am
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Dec 18, 2012, 7:49 am
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Actually for time differences on 107 it will be around 18 hours Flying time
on CX it will be 9 hour + 15 hours, should it is 24 hours flying time.
Therefore you need to assess whether the 6 extra hours is worth it. The seats are definitely better on CX.
Also for CX you get 4 flight options dep Sydney:
Dep 835am Arr (JFK) 715pm
Dep 11:30am Arr (JFK) 1015pm
Dep 3:40pm Arr (JFK) 6am (+1)
Dep 10:20pm Arr (JFK) 12:10pm (+1)
So it is more flexible than QF and you can almost squeeze in half a day work in Sydney before going on the plane (as QF 107 leaves at 11:55am)
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on CX it will be 9 hour + 15 hours, should it is 24 hours flying time.
Therefore you need to assess whether the 6 extra hours is worth it. The seats are definitely better on CX.
Also for CX you get 4 flight options dep Sydney:
Dep 835am Arr (JFK) 715pm
Dep 11:30am Arr (JFK) 1015pm
Dep 3:40pm Arr (JFK) 6am (+1)
Dep 10:20pm Arr (JFK) 12:10pm (+1)
So it is more flexible than QF and you can almost squeeze in half a day work in Sydney before going on the plane (as QF 107 leaves at 11:55am)
Checkout the I Class specials ex SYD to JFK
Dec 18, 2012, 9:09 am
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I'm interested in people's thoughts on the hard and soft J product on the SYD-JFK route.
My understanding is that all SYD-JFK 744s have A380 product so going on the "direct" route would keep that product across the US.
Alternatively, the A380 to LAX (good J product) means LAX customs and a switch to AA. Is the AA product decent?
My understanding is that all SYD-JFK 744s have A380 product so going on the "direct" route would keep that product across the US.
Alternatively, the A380 to LAX (good J product) means LAX customs and a switch to AA. Is the AA product decent?
Dave
Dec 18, 2012, 1:22 pm
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The good thing for 107 is that they sort of have to ensure the pax on the thru service clear immigration and customs before rejoining to JFK so I never encountered excessive amounts of waiting time. When u get to JFK can go straight out to the taxi rank
Dec 18, 2012, 3:57 pm
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Over the past decade I have flown JFK-SYD/MEL a dozen times, once or twice with QF and the rest with CX, usually in F. It is far better due to ability to sleep on the plane (the longer travel time is actually a plus), sector lengths, timezone change (SYD to HKG is far gentler on the body than SYD to LAX). So even ignoring the CX service advantage (maybe a wash in J with QF), it is a much better way to go. Generally I used AONEx fares, so the same, but otherwise CX is usually more expensive than QF, often thousands more, so cost might be a consideration. Westbound gives HKG an even greater advantage, ime.
Dec 19, 2012, 1:05 pm
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Stick with QF thru to JFK. The AA J class is barely comparable to premium economy on QF.
Since you have to clear customs at LAX anyway it makes no difference from that perspective.
Depending on connection times I would choose the A380 (quieter) and then 107 to JFK . Enjoy the flight.
Since you have to clear customs at LAX anyway it makes no difference from that perspective.
Depending on connection times I would choose the A380 (quieter) and then 107 to JFK . Enjoy the flight.
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Dec 19, 2012, 1:25 pm
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Having flown both numerous times, I'd have to say that's a total overstatement. I'll take AA J over QF PE any day.
If the OP "can go CX through HKG (stop over and see friends) and only have international flights." I would say it's an easy choice to pick CX.
If the OP "can go CX through HKG (stop over and see friends) and only have international flights." I would say it's an easy choice to pick CX.