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Old Feb 14, 2024, 12:44 am
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AF/KL/KE - BUD-SYD - 1131400 HUF / 2882 EUR / $3086 USD r/t - Business

Air France / KLM / Korean Air - Budapest, Hungary (BUD) to Sydney, Australia (SYD) via Amsterdam (AMS) or Paris (CDG) and Seoul (ICN) or Singapore (SIN) - 1131400 HUF / 2882 EUR / $3086 USD roundtrip - Business

This is not a new fare, but it usually has no inventory. At the moment there are quite a few dates that work at the end of 2024 (would be going into summer in Australia) so I thought I'd post it! If you want to stick to flying SkyTeam to Australia and want to avoid flying an airline from mainland China, this is an option. It's a few hundred Euro more expensive, unfortunately, but cheaper than a roundtrip on Air France or KLM much of the rest of the year.

If you search for ticket based on the Fare Basis, you will see a varied pricing because there are actually four versions of Fare Basis - ORS7TBRA
AF Version - Base Fare - 2485.00(USD) / 2305.00(EUR)
AF Version - Base Fare - 2583.00(USD) / 2396.00(EUR)
KL Version - Base Fare - 2583.00(USD) / 2396.00(EUR)
KL Version - Base Fare - 2960.00(USD) / 2746.00(EUR)

Saturday night stay or 6 night stay required. A stopover is permitted at $75. If you connect in Singapore the flight between Singapore and Sydney will be operated by Qantas. If you connect in Seoul the flight to Australia will be operated by Korean Air or Asiana. Qantas and Asiana are not Flying Blue partners, but both flights would have an AF / KL flight number so I'm guessing you'll receive mileage credit for those flights.

The following dates work in November and December at the time of posting -
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Google Flights does NOT show every date that works, however it does show the following dates -
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To find additional working dates, try ITA Matrix (which seems to be quite glitchy at the moment)

Origin - BUD
Destination - SYD

Pick your dates / month

Extra Stops
No Limit

Cabin
Cheapest Available

Try one of the following -

Routing Codes
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Extension Codes
F ..ORS7TBR

Routing Codes
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Extension Codes
F ..ORS7TBRA; opairlines AF KL KE

Routing Codes
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Extension Codes
F ..ORS7TBRA; opairlines AF KL KE OZ QF

Routing Codes
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Extension Codes
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You can also try searching Momondo. Here are a few example links -

Alternately, you can search random dates on the KLM or Air France website to see if your preferred dates work!







Qantas / Asiana Option
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Asiana Only
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Qantas Only
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Code:
Fare Routing Search:
Departing BUD on 02/14/24 for SYD
Fare basis code ORS7TBRA
Flying AF
Routing via Eastern Hemisphere

    V FARE BASIS     BK    FARE   TRAVEL-TICKET AP  MINMAX  RTG
  1   ORS7TBRA       O‡R  2485.00     ----     10    6/12M EH01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT                 AUTO PRICE-YES              
FROM-BUD TO-SYD    CXR-AF    TVL-14FEB24  RULE-6L2B IPREUAS/4
FARE BASIS-ORS7TBRA          SPECIAL FARE  DIS-E   VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-BRN      RT-BUSINESS SELL-UP RT NON-REF
HUF   891800  CONS  E22NOV23 D-INFINITY   FC-ORS7TBRA  FN-     
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 21NOV23/0319  EXPIRES INFINITY
 
**** CONSTRUCTED ROUTING BUD-SYD/AF      EF-22NOV23 DIS-INDEF
**PUBLISHED  BUD-SIN   EURG/4    PUBLISHED ROUTING 0004
**ADDON DST      SYD   EURG/4    PUBLISHED ROUTING 3304
 
/WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/
MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT
 1. BUD-AF/KL-AMS-AF/KL-AUH-AF/EY-SYD
 2. BUD-AF/KL-AMS-JNB-QF-SYD
 3. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS-AF/KL-AUH-AF/EY-SYD
 4. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS-JNB-QF-SYD
 5. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/CI/KL-BKK-3K/SQ-SIN-AF/
    KL/QF/SQ-SYD
 6. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/CI/KL-BKK-3K/SQ-SIN-AF/
    QF-SYD
 7. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/CI/KL-BKK-AF/VN-SGN-AF/
    JQ/VN-SYD
 8. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/CI/KL-BKK-QF-SYD
 9. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/CZ/KL-CAN-AF-SGN-AF/JQ/
    VN-SYD
10. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/CZ/KL-CAN-AF/CZ-BNE-AF/
    QF-SYD
11. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/CZ/KL-CAN-AF/CZ-SYD
12. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AUH-AF/EY-SYD
13. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AUH-AF/EY/KL-BKK-QF-
    SYD
14. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AUH-AF/EY/KL-BNE-AF/
    QF-SYD
15. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AUH-AF/EY/KL-SIN-AF/
    KL/QF/SQ-SYD
16. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AUH-AF/EY/KL-SIN-AF/
    QF-SYD
17. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AUH-AF/EY/KL-SYD
18. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-BJS-CA-SYD
19. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-BJS-QF-SYD
20. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-BKK-QF-SYD
21. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-DPS-QF-SYD
22. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-HKG-AF/CX-ADL/BNE/
    CNS-AF/QF-SYD
23. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-HKG-AF/CX-ADL/CNS-
    AF/QF-SYD
24. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-HKG-AF/CX-BNE-AF/QF-
    SYD
25. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-HKG-AF/CX-DPS-QF-SYD
26. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-HKG-AF/CX-SYD
27. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-HKG-AF/CX/QF-SYD
28. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-HKG-HX-SGN-AF/JQ/VN-
    SYD
29. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-HKG-QF-BNE-AF/QF-SYD
30. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-HKG-QF-SYD
31. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-KUL-AF/KL-SGN-AF/JQ/
    VN-SYD
32. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-KUL-AF/SQ-SIN-AF/KL/
    QF/SQ-SYD
33. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-KUL-AF/SQ-SIN-AF/QF-
    SYD
34. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-KUL-VN-SGN-AF/JQ/VN-
    SYD
35. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-SGN-AF/JQ/VN-SYD
36. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-SHA-AF/QF-SYD
37. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-SHA-QF-SYD
38. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-SIN-3K-BKK-QF-SYD
39. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-SIN-3K/AF/KL/SQ-SGN-
    AF/JQ/VN-SYD
40. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-SIN-3K/AF/SQ-DPS-QF-
    SYD
41. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-SIN-AF/GA/KL-DPS-QF-
    SYD
42. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-SIN-AF/JQ-DPS-QF-SYD
43. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-SIN-AF/KL/QF/SQ-SYD
44. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-SIN-AF/QF-BNE-AF/QF-
    SYD
45. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-SIN-AF/QF-SYD
46. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-SIN-AF/SQ-ADL-AF/QF-
    SYD
47. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-SIN-SQ-CNS-AF/QF-SYD
48. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-SIN-SQ-DPS-QF-SYD
49. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-SIN-SQ-HKG-AF/CX/QF-
    SYD
50. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-SIN-SQ-SGN-AF/JQ/VN-
    SYD
51. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-SIN-VN-SGN-AF/JQ/VN-
    SYD
52. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-TPE-AF/CI/KL-DPS-QF-
    SYD
53. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-TPE-AF/CI/KL-SIN-AF/
    KL/QF/SQ-SYD
54. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-TPE-AF/CI/KL-SIN-AF/
    QF-SYD
55. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-TPE-AF/CI/KL-SYD
56. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL/VN-HAN-AF/VN-SGN-AF/
    JQ/VN-SYD
57. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL/VN-SGN-AF/JQ/VN-SYD
58. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL/VN-SGN-AF/VN-SYD
59. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AMS-AF/KL-AUH-AF/EY-SYD
60. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AMS-JNB-QF-SYD
61. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-BJS-CA-SYD
62. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-BJS-QF-SYD
63. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-CAN-AF/CZ-SYD
64. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-PAR-AF/KL-AUH-AF/EY-SYD
65. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-PAR-JNB-QF-SYD
66. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-SGN-AF/JQ/VN-SYD
67. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-SHA-AF/QF-SYD
68. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-TPE-AF/CI/KL-SYD
69. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-PAR-AF/KL-AUH-AF/EY-SYD
70. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-PAR-JNB-QF-SYD
71. BUD-AF/KL-PAR-AF/KL-AUH-AF/EY-SYD
72. BUD-AF/KL-PAR-JNB-QF-SYD
.


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Old Feb 14, 2024, 1:00 am
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This looks amazing for Europe-Australia itineraries.
Have been looking for a long time for special fares and could not funks anything below 4000€….

i am not good in using ITA Matrix, and I also don’t see this for August 2024 in google flights….
although the fare says “staring Nov 2023” if I am not mistaken….

am I missing something or is this only available NOV-DEC 2024?

thanks for posting!
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Old Feb 14, 2024, 1:12 am
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Originally Posted by chejus
This looks amazing for Europe-Australia itineraries.
Have been looking for a long time for special fares and could not funks anything below 4000€….

i am not good in using ITA Matrix, and I also don’t see this for August 2024 in google flights….
although the fare says “staring Nov 2023” if I am not mistaken….

am I missing something or is this only available NOV-DEC 2024?

thanks for posting!
You're welcome! It's hard to crack 3k EUR and not transit China or Istanbul.

It should work in August, but there aren't any seats in the O fare class (or whatever O maps to on the codeshare flights) in August, so this fare basically doesn't work in August at the moment. Also Google Flights isn't displaying every working date. There are a few working dates at the end of October and I have all the working dates in November and December for a 1-30 day trip in the first spoiler in my post.

The second spoiler lists every date that does display in Google Flights (again, not every date available)

The third spoiler gives a few example Momondo links (non-affiliate). The FR and IE version seem to yield more / better results than .com or .co.uk.

EDIT
I guess I should clarify that there is no inventory on the return in August. If you want a really long trip you can depart in August, but can't return until October.


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Old Feb 14, 2024, 1:18 am
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Wish this would work for the reverse.
but Australians airways get slugged extra for going in the other direction.
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Old Feb 14, 2024, 1:29 am
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Originally Posted by rosege
Wish this would work for the reverse.
but Australians airways get slugged extra for going in the other direction.
Yes, Australians usually get the short end of the stick.
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Old Feb 14, 2024, 4:00 am
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Very nice:
Code:
60. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AMS-JNB-QF-SYD
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Old Feb 14, 2024, 6:22 am
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Originally Posted by FrankTalk
Very nice:
Code:
60. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AMS-JNB-QF-SYD
That is an interesting routing! I have never flown from Africa to Australia. Have you found any flights that work?
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Old Feb 14, 2024, 10:06 am
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Originally Posted by FrankTalk
Very nice:
Code:
60. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AMS-JNB-QF-SYD
Ohhhh... that's my kind of routing. I've always wanted to fly a Southern Polar route
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Old Feb 14, 2024, 11:29 am
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Ohhhh... that's my kind of routing. I've always wanted to fly a Southern Polar route
​​​​​​Me too! It would be interesting!
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Old Feb 14, 2024, 3:08 pm
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Originally Posted by FrankTalk
Very nice:
Code:
60. BUD-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AF/KL-AMS/PAR-AMS-JNB-QF-SYD
I don't have the time to try now, but if anybody does want to try, I searched ExpertFlyer segment by segment to see what dates have at least 1 seat available in "O". (Month / Date List)



CDG-JNB - AF990

2/14, 16, 21, 22, 23, 24, 26, 28

3/6, 7, 14

4/11

5/1, 2

6/5, 11, 12, 13, 14

7/4, 10, 11, 16, 21, 23, 24, 25

8/5, 8, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28

9/3, 4, 5, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 17, 22, 24, 25, 26, 29

10/1, 2, 8, 10, 13, 17, 23, 24

11/5, 13, 14, 15, 16, 18, 19, 21, 23, 25, 26, 27, 29, 30,

12/2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 19, 30, 31

1/2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 18, 20, 22, 23, 24, 25, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31

2/3, 4, 5, 6, 7



JNB-SYD - QF64

9/30

10/3, 21, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 30, 31

11/1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 27

12/6, 9



SYD-JNB - QF63

10/9, 10, 11, 14, 16, 17, 18, 19, 21, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 30, 31

11/1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25

12/2

1/20, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 29, 30, 31

2/1



JNB-CDG - AF995

3/26

7/10, 14

8/3

9/23, 29, 30

10/1, 6, 8, 15, 26, 28

11/4, 5, 6, 11, 12, 18

12/1, 10, 17, 23,

1/12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 25, 26, 28
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Old Feb 15, 2024, 10:38 am
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DL folks remember "promo" O fares bank 20% x (miles flown) MQD starting January 2024--apparently the 40% to 30% decrease for paid business wasn't enough...
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Old Feb 15, 2024, 10:48 am
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Originally Posted by funflier
DL folks remember "promo" O fares bank 20% x (miles flown) MQD starting January 2024--apparently the 40% to 30% decrease for paid business wasn't enough...
They did make some pretty detrimental changes! People flying on cheap partner fares sure are going to have a hard time reaching any status earning 5% MQD's too!
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