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LH/LA - BUD-SCL - 565800 HUF / 1535 EUR r/t - Business

LH/LA - BUD-SCL - 565800 HUF / 1535 EUR r/t - Business

Old Jun 9, 2023, 10:17 pm
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LH/LA - BUD-SCL - 565800 HUF / 1535 EUR r/t - Business

Lufthansa and LATAM - Budapest (BUD) to Santiago de Chile (SCL) via Frankfurt (FRA) and Bogota (BOG) - 565800 HUF / 1535 EUR / $1652 USD roundtrip in business. The Bogota - Santiago segments are operated by Boeing 787's, so you should be in a lie-flat seat the majority of the trip. This fare isn't the greatest for a mileage run since you are required to stay 5 days or Saturday night. Available dates are scattered through the calendar.

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Category 6: Minimum stay requirements

TRAVEL FROM TURNAROUND MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 5
DAYS AFTER ARRIVAL AT TURNAROUND
OR - TRAVEL FROM TURNAROUND MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN
THE FIRST SUN AFTER ARRIVAL AT TURNAROUND.

Category 7: Maximum stay requirements

TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12
MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

Category 8: Stopover restrictions

1 STOPOVER PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION AT EUR 150.00 EACH.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.

Category 9: Transfer restrictions

UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED
SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.

Category 19: Discounts

ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.
NOTE -
FOR CHILDREN TURNING 12 YEARS ENROUTE - CHILDREN
FARE HAS TO BE USED FOR THE ENTIRE JOURNEY
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.
NOTE -
FOR INFANTS TURNING 2 YEARS ENROUTE - DUE TO
SAFETY REGULATIONS - A BOOKED SEAT WILL BE
REQUIRED FOR THE REMAINING PORTIONS OF THE
JOURNEY. WHEN A SEPARATE SEAT IS REQUIRED ON A
PORTION OF THE JOURNEY - CHILD FARE HAS TO BE
USED FOR THE ENTIRE JOURNEY.
OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 75
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.
NOTE -
UNACCOMPANIED CHILD UNDER 5 YEARS OF AGE WILL NOT
BE ACCEPTED FOR CARRIAGE. SERVICE CHARGE FOR
UNACCOMPANIED CHILD APPLIES.

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Old Jun 9, 2023, 10:27 pm
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Possible to get a USA stop over
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Old Jun 9, 2023, 10:42 pm
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Originally Posted by thaitraveller
Possible to get a USA stop over
I haven't tried routing this fare through the USA so I'm not sure if that would work, but if you could, the stopover would not be free.
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Old Jun 9, 2023, 11:21 pm
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Originally Posted by thaitraveller
Possible to get a USA stop over
I had the same thought -- is it by chance similar to the AMS-SCL fare from last year, with stops in N.A at $100?
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Old Jun 10, 2023, 12:03 am
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Originally Posted by MaxVO
I had the same thought -- is it by chance similar to the AMS-SCL fare from last year, with stops in N.A at $100?
The AMS fare can still be booked on some dates. The fare rules are similar, but this one the stopover is 150 EUR instead of 100 EUR.




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Old Jun 10, 2023, 12:33 am
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Originally Posted by thaitraveller
Possible to get a USA stop over
Originally Posted by cruser1
I haven't tried routing this fare through the USA so I'm not sure if that would work, but if you could, the stopover would not be free.
No it's actually not possible to route through USA or Canada.
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Old Jun 10, 2023, 12:45 am
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I would be much more interested in a (long) BOG stopover.
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Old Jun 10, 2023, 1:23 am
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Originally Posted by SourSweetTea
No it's actually not possible to route through USA or Canada.
Sorry, the routing rules *do* allow going via the US. Heres the full set of options:
Code:
    V FARE BASIS     BK    FARE   TRAVEL-TICKET AP  MINMAX  RTG
  1   PNCHU          P‡R   963.00     ----      -/‡ ‡‡/12M AT01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT                 AUTO PRICE-YES              
FROM-BUD TO-SCL    CXR-LH    TVL-04OCT23  RULE-B0HU IPRSAA2/27
FARE BASIS-PNCHU             SPECIAL FARE  DIS-E   VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-BXR      RT-2ND LEVEL BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION
HUF   330600  CONS  E17FEB23 D-INFINITY   FC-PNCHU  FN-     
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 16FEB23/0427  EXPIRES INFINITY
 
**** CONSTRUCTED ROUTING BUD-SCL/LH      EF-17FEB23 DIS-INDEF
**PUBLISHED  BUD-SAO  SAARG/27   PUBLISHED ROUTING 5001
**ADDON DST      SCL  SAARG/27   PUBLISHED ROUTING 5001
 
/VIA THE ATLANTIC/
MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT
 1. BUD-4Y/EN/LH-BRU/CGN/DUS/FRA/GVA/MUC/VIE/ZRH-4Y/EN/LH-BRU/
    CGN/DUS/FRA/GVA/LON/MUC/VIE/ZRH-4Y/LH-BOG/BUE/CTG/PTY/RIO/
    SAO-4Y/AD/AR/AV/CM/G3/LA/LH/OB/PZ-SCL
 2. BUD-4Y/EN/LH-BRU/CGN/DUS/FRA/GVA/MUC/VIE/ZRH-4Y/EN/LH-BRU/
    CGN/DUS/FRA/GVA/LON/MUC/VIE/ZRH-4Y/LH-BOG/CHI/CTG/CUN/HOU/
    LIR/MEX/MIA/NYC/PTY/PUJ/SJO/WAS/YMQ/YTO-4Y/AC/AV/CM/LA/LH/
    UA-SCL
.
The most logical routing for getting two longhaul sectors would probably be something like BUD-FRA-IAH-SCL (and back).
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Old Jun 10, 2023, 5:19 am
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I can see slightly better prices (1365 euro) from BUD to ICN in December with Swiss. Pity it is a winter season.

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Old Jun 10, 2023, 6:36 am
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Originally Posted by Dave_C
Sorry, the routing rules *do* allow going via the US. Heres the full set of options:
Code:
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 PNCHU PR 963.00 ---- -/ /12M AT01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-BUD TO-SCL CXR-LH TVL-04OCT23 RULE-B0HU IPRSAA2/27
FARE BASIS-PNCHU SPECIAL FARE DIS-E VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-BXR RT-2ND LEVEL BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION
HUF 330600 CONS E17FEB23 D-INFINITY FC-PNCHU FN-
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 16FEB23/0427 EXPIRES INFINITY

**** CONSTRUCTED ROUTING BUD-SCL/LH EF-17FEB23 DIS-INDEF
**PUBLISHED BUD-SAO SAARG/27 PUBLISHED ROUTING 5001
**ADDON DST SCL SAARG/27 PUBLISHED ROUTING 5001

/VIA THE ATLANTIC/
MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT
1. BUD-4Y/EN/LH-BRU/CGN/DUS/FRA/GVA/MUC/VIE/ZRH-4Y/EN/LH-BRU/
CGN/DUS/FRA/GVA/LON/MUC/VIE/ZRH-4Y/LH-BOG/BUE/CTG/PTY/RIO/
SAO-4Y/AD/AR/AV/CM/G3/LA/LH/OB/PZ-SCL
2. BUD-4Y/EN/LH-BRU/CGN/DUS/FRA/GVA/MUC/VIE/ZRH-4Y/EN/LH-BRU/
CGN/DUS/FRA/GVA/LON/MUC/VIE/ZRH-4Y/LH-BOG/CHI/CTG/CUN/HOU/
LIR/MEX/MIA/NYC/PTY/PUJ/SJO/WAS/YMQ/YTO-4Y/AC/AV/CM/LA/LH/
UA-SCL
.
The most logical routing for getting two longhaul sectors would probably be something like BUD-FRA-IAH-SCL (and back).
I'm not at all surprised about your response. Routing restrictions are not the only restrictions here. Check the booking code and you will know why I said that.
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Old Jun 10, 2023, 7:05 am
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Originally Posted by SourSweetTea
I'm not at all surprised about your response. Routing restrictions are not the only restrictions here. Check the booking code and you will know why I said that.
Always very happy to learn, but I dont see why a P fare wouldnt be valid on United down from IAH to SCL?
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Old Jun 10, 2023, 7:20 am
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Originally Posted by Dave_C
Always very happy to learn, but I don’t see why a P fare wouldn’t be valid on United down from IAH to SCL?
Check Booking Code Exceptions, which basically determine what booking code is used for every possible segment.

UA from IAH to SCL has no booking code for this fare. AC from Canada to South America has no booking code for this fare. LA from North America to South America has no booking code for this fare. These de facto ruled out any routes through North America. I doubt it's unintentional.

Y if No P Inventory is also determined by Booking Code Exceptions of P Fares.
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Old Jun 10, 2023, 7:28 am
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Originally Posted by SourSweetTea
Check Booking Code Exceptions, which basically determine what booking code is used for every possible segment.

UA from IAH to SCL has no booking code for this fare. AC from Canada to South America has no booking code for this fare. LA from North America to South America has no booking code for this fare. These de facto ruled out any routes through North America. I doubt it's unintentional.

Y if No P Inventory is also determined by Booking Code Exceptions of P Fares.
Got it, so presumably you mean this section?

Code:
IF VIA LH                                                      
   VIA UA                      NO BOOKING CODE DATA EXISTS     
   BETWEEN HOU-SCL
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Old Jun 10, 2023, 7:36 am
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Originally Posted by Dave_C
Got it, so presumably you mean this section?

Code:
IF VIA LH
VIA UA NO BOOKING CODE DATA EXISTS
BETWEEN HOU-SCL
Thanks for the tip!
Yep. Exact thing.
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Old Jun 11, 2023, 1:45 am
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Note that this fare also works on LX (if youre lucky finding P on the ZRH-GRU segment) and you can extend it to a few other Chilean airports (ANF / CJC / PUQ) for the same fare basis. Intra Chile legs will be on LA W (premium economy) with some exceptions (e.g. GRU-SCL can be booked in D (business))
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