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Old Apr 30, 2023, 8:45 pm
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OZ/QF/LA - AKL-FCO - 5558 NZD / 3119 EUR / $3432 r/t - Business

There are a few scattered dates (mostly in August and September) when you can fly from Auckland (AKL) to Rome (FCO) via Sydney and Seoul for 5558 NZD in business. The outbound AKL-SYD flight is operated by Qantas and the inbound SYD-AKL flight is cheapest if operated by LATAM, but for a few hundred NZD more you can get a flight operated by Air New Zealand if you want as much of the trip to be operated by a Star Alliance airline as possible.

Depart on -
For 5558 NZD
August 21, 28
September 4

For 5577 NZD
May 2024 - 1, 3, 4, 6, 8, 10, 11, 13, 15

For 5698 NZD
August 20
October 29

For 5716 NZD
April 2024 - 30
May 2024 - 2, 5, 7, 9, 12, 14, 16

For 5958 NZD
August 12, 14
February 2024 - 2, 16

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https://www.google.com/travel/flight...iwRU6eXRCp3Fj8

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Category 8: Stopover restrictions

2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.

Category 9: Transfer restrictions

UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON
THE FARE COMPONENT.

Category 15: Sales restrictions

TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 01APR 17.

Category 15: Sales restrictions

TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON OZ.

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ITA Matrix - Air New Zealand Instead of LATAM
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Old May 1, 2023, 1:58 am
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This defiantly falls into the deal category for AU/NZ, not amazing but decent.
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Old May 1, 2023, 7:02 am
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I think there is simply varying levels of expertise on this board, which results in different preferences for this sort of thing and miscommunication between members. Unlike the trick it thread, there is no attempt at a minimum bar in this forum.

Take this fare for example (I haven't looked into it so this is a broad generalization). There is a Z fare and a U fare.
To a very experienced reader, this post looks extremely long/extraneous because it could have been something like "AKL-ROM is $x,xxx on OZ. Availability with the cheaper U fare is hard to find, but the Z fare is $xxx more. I could only find NZ with the Z fare. "GF link". Sample dates: ..." Instead the experienced reader has to read between the lines and reverse engineer this info from a series of screenshots and examples.
However, the relatively inexperienced reader would have been more helpless with that sort of post, so these posts may open their eyes to fares that they didn't know about/don't know how to use EF/matrix to find on a whim (which, I agree with pkpkpk is indeed possible for some. this fare has been around for at least months). To the inexperienced reader, they just see the consistently high prices AKL-Europe on Google Flights and would not be aware that something like this is possible without OP's post. OP is definitely doing a service to this group.

These posts take significant time to create, and OP is clearly giving of their time to help people who may need these fares. Even if finding the deals were automated (not saying that it is), simply writing the posts and taking the effort to followup and answer questions must take 10s of minutes.
We have had prolific posters in the past that have tried to funnel people through their own websites/booking channels by providing incomplete information and I find that far less noble.

The most important thing is that we should not be discouraging someone's genuine attempt at this time consuming effort.
For what it's worth I have noticed a major improvement in OP's posts towards reducing the length of each post to try to find a balance. Earlier posts had lots more screenshots with duplication requiring lots of scrolling. OP's efforts are relatively new (1 month?), and they are improving rapidly over time - this is wonderful. Nudging with constructive ideas without discouraging the effort is the most that should be needed, if that.

If a genuine effort upsets a signal to noise ratio balance, or is not in an ideal format, then we should have discussions about ideas to improve the community (clearly labeling or categorizing posts? or guidelines on what a post should be like?). The economy forum took a crack at this with the "Good deals" thread, which OP respects the purpose of and uses accordingly - not all posters do. Discussions about potential community changes don't need to be about a specific poster unless that poster's efforts are not in good faith.

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Old May 1, 2023, 8:24 am
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$10K F prices are not deals. $3400 J fares ex-NZ are most definitely deals, especially for someone looking to position to then take advantage of the better deals available elsewhere. Great post OP - keep it up.
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It’s a great deal think I will ignore pkpkpk as it’s a boring post
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Old May 1, 2023, 11:07 am
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Agree with most- good enough deal and at approximately appropriate dates such that I dropped everything and tried to make it work for me. Keep it up!
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Old May 4, 2023, 1:08 pm
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Some of these may only work on a few dates. Others may only be a few hundred AUD less than normal.

Pacific Islands

Business

DL/AF - PPT-New York (LGA) - 399638 CFPF / 5516 AUD / $3687 - 13158 miles (.4192 AUD/mile) - Late May 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...NFaoSsRqcwF5d7


New Zealand

Business

MU/BA - AKL-Madrid (MAD) - 6385 AUD / $4274 - 24658 miles (.2589 AUD/mile) - Early June 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...xPp1jp5njahRPA

FJ - WLG-Tokyo (NRT) - 3283 AUD / $2192 - 12080 miles (.2718 AUD/mile) - Scattered dates through the year
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...4dKWXiwvjS5Ga7

MU/BA - AKL-Budapest (BUD) - 6424 AUD / $4288 - 24962 miles (.2749 AUD/mile) - Early June 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...QCeGPUJu3DR9P7

HU - AKL-Shenzhen (SZX) - 3177 AUD / $2121 - 11432 miles (.2779 AUD/mile) - August 2023
https://www.momondo.com/flight-searc...s?sort=price_a

FJ - WLG-Honolulu (HNL) - 3484 AUD / $2177 - 9586 miles (.3634 AUD/mile) - Scattered dates through the year
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...rbPGS8LyV1Uc28


Australia

Premium Economy

GS - SYD-Osaka (KIX) - 1303 AUD / $874 - 13674 miles (.0953 AUD/mile) - May to June 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...nLXKRoLwN3Ncy7

MU - MEL-Madrid (MAD) - 2529 AUD / $1643 - 22714 miles (.1113 AUD/mile) - August-October 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...D5gdupF5xcTJe8

TR - SYD-Berlin (BER) - 2288 AUD / $1528 - 20154 miles (.1135 AUD/mile) - October 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...GzCGhKQFEdGL76

TR - SYD-Athens (ATH) - 2215 AUD / $1479 - 19058 miles (.1162 AUD/mile) - October-November 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...68aAQ1WutjQhi7

MU - SYD-Madrid (MAD) - 2583 AUD / $1680 - 22528 miles (.1167 AUD/mile) - August-October 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...AbZKbFpGbYpDE7

TR - MEL-Athens (ATH) - 2189 AUD / $1462 - 18730 miles (.1169 AUD/mile) - October-November 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...8DVjXUG3eADXw9

TR - SYD-Bangkok (BKK) - 1136 AUD / $759 - 9566 miles (.1188 AUD/mile) - August & October 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...YaL7DnnvBd7YK6

MU - MEL-Rome (FCO) - 2556 AUD / $1658 - 21344 miles (.1197 AUD/mile) - June 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...ateHyUTpUtv1C7

TR - MEL-Bangkok (BKK) - 1109 AUD / $741 - 9238 miles (.1204 AUD/mile) - August & October 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...9SPUxd4LeaS9j6

MU - SYD-Rome (FCO) - 2610 AUD / $1696 - 21158 miles (.1234 AUD/mile) - June 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...oa4Yjm8XVtLPQ7

TR - PER-Berlin (BER) - 2160 AUD / $1443 - 17180 miles (.1257 AUD/mile) - October 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...YMCb6kSk4FuoX8

TR - PER-Athens (ATH) - 2087 AUD / $1394 - 16084 miles (.1298 AUD/mile) - October 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...GBoMHwXqsriry6

MU/AZ - SYD-Venice (VCE) - 2881 AUD / $1931 - 22158 miles (.1300 AUD/mile) - May 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...biggZJA2HiMef7

SQ - PER-New York (JFK) - 3264 AUD / $2180 - 23914 miles (.1365 AUD/mile) - August to October 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...MJ3QLom9RouNVA

TR - SYD-Singapore (SIN) - 1111 AUD / $743 - 7818 miles (.1421 AUD/mile) - July 2023 to November 2023, Feb 2024 to end of schedule
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...LvrSER8QGhqYUA

TR - MEL-Singapore (SIN) - 1084 AUD / $727 - 7486 miles (.1448 AUD/mile) - August 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...YVJrQ3dxo2QDa6

VN - MEL-Paris (CDG) - 3280 AUD / $2058 - 21138 miles (.1552 AUD/mile) - September 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...xpHiR2FXXbiPT8

SQ/SK - SYD-Amsterdam (AMS) - 3640 AUD / $2435 - 20984 miles (.1735 AUD/mile) - November 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...G2JoqPuKmkdCg7

EK - SYD-Rio de Janeiro (GIG) - 5375 AUD / $3601 - 29730 miles (.1808 AUD/mile) - October 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...94boYJ3Wn5UJj9

TR - OOL-Athens (ATH) - 3560 AUD / $2382 - 18948 miles (.1879 ADU/mile) - Single Date in May
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...J325xWdud2vDr7

VA/CI - MCY-San Francisco (SFO) - 4449 AUD / $2955 - 23449 miles (.1897 AUD/mile) - early to mid-May 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...rLCDB9wHRxteA7

VA/VN - OOL-Mumbai (BOM) - 2759 AUD / $1847 - 13988 miles (.1972 AUD/mile) - Single Date in May
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...G6pniBmnaZWcR9

SQ - BNE-Istanbul (IST) - 3672 AUD / $1998 - 18410 miles (.1995 AUD/mile) - August 2023, Oct to Nov 2023, Feb 2024 to end of schedule
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...VwtpgD8LP2s6E9


Business
JQ - SYD-Seoul (ICN) - 1630 AUD / $1092 - 10328 miles (.1578 AUD/mile) - May 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...93ru4JArQMQbt8

VA - OOL-Tokyo (HND) - 1938 AUD / $1292 - 10698 miles (.1812 AUD/mile) - August 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...agKgHbEj4kmhF8

QF/FJ - ADL-Honolulu (HNL) - 3325 AUD / $2225 - 18344 miles (.1813 AUD/mile) - June 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...T4ZcnqbVBmUVQ8

VA - ADL-Tokyo (HND) - 2333 AUD / $1555 - 10992 miles (.2122 AUD/mile - August 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...rs23FxSsb8cm48

VA - MEL-Tokyo (HND) - 2323 AUD / $1547 - 10118 miles (.2296 AUD/mile) - February 2024
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...CrgZY3ZCcymGK8
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...jqvgtzRayy9Ac7

UL - SYD-New Delhi (DEL) - 3287 AUD / $2197 - 13852 miles (.2373 AUD/mile) - August 2023 to end of schedule
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...NwReA6odnH7Z6A

VN - SYD-Paris (CDG) - 5003 AUD / $3334 - 21062 miles (.2375 AUD/mile) - November 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...Lbk6JENZVgyMs7

MH/AI - SYD-Mumbai (BOM) - 3212 AUD / $2145 - 12801 miles (.2509 AUD/mile) - July to November 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...hepDYc52AxgJj6

OZ - SYD-New York (JFK) - 6067 AUD / $4058 - 24136 miles (.2514 AUD/mile) - Scattered dates September 2023 through year-end
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...PSgTWF2zeV2uHA

MH/AI - MEL-Mumbai (BOM) - 3222 AUD / $2152 - 12461 miles (.2586 AUD/mile) - July to November 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...uzEYgz1u62Csw8

VA - DRW-Tokyo (HND) - 3302 AUD / $2205 - 12520 miles (.2637 AUD/mile) - August 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...NXzXx5wWBMMWB9
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...hvLMcAFg4fBt49

MH/WY - PER-London (LHR) - 5186 AUD / $3368 - 18858 miles (.2750 AUD/mile) - Single Date in November 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...mArjkDgc2S6iG7

SQ/SK - PER-Iceland (KEF) - 5483 AUD / $3627 - 19900 miles (.2755 AUD/mile) - October & November 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...McPVbrkX6mZmZ8

SQ/SK - PER-Barcelona (BCN) - 5482 AUD / $3626 - 19434 miles (.2821 AUD/mile) - November 2023, Feb 2024 to end of schedule
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...jDt15FavnXUVW7

VA/NH - ADL-Seattle (SEA) - 6540 AUD / $4365 - 20734 miles (.3154 AUD/mile) - Late August - Not the greatest discount
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...SV7hWoM1JCsSF6

QF/FJ - CNS-Honolulu (HNL) - 3875 AUD / $2588 - 11420 miles (.3393 ADU/mile) - Scattered dates through the year
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...4Teduh7jNuGtEA

VA - ADL-Perth (PER) - 1500 AUD / $999 - 2626 miles (.5712 AUD/mile) - Thursday departures in Sept/Oct 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...SN7EYMNBPAXxp7

VA - HBA-Perth (PER) - 2986 AUD / $1990 - 4090 miles (.7300 AUD/mile) - October 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...mUGqAdtEA3irn6


First (pretty much useless since the prices are sky high, but I'll throw these out here)
QF/JL - BNE-Paris (CDG) - 10815 AUD / $7236 - 22702 miles (.4764 AUD/mile) - Available Much of the Schedule
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...s4xLt8b2PvQoJ7

QF/EK/JQ/AC - ADL-New York (JFK) - 13415 AUD / $8989 - 28768 miles (.4663 AUD/mile) - September 2023
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...mvHRzG6Cg1VVC9
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