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Skyteam Multiple USA cities - Europe e.g. LAX-BER Biz RT $2,967

Skyteam Multiple USA cities - Europe e.g. LAX-BER Biz RT $2,967

Old Feb 14, 2023, 10:32 pm
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Skyteam Multiple USA cities - Europe e.g. LAX-BER Biz RT $2,967

Multiple US cities : Los Angeles, San Diego, Las Vegas, New York, Austin, New Orleans, Salt Lake City etc…
Multiple European destinations : Berlin, Munich, Frankfurt, Brussels, Luxemberg, London, Stockholm, etc…

VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 20APR23. ALL TRAVEL MUST BE COMPLETED BY MIDNIGHT ON 17SEP23.
NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT




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Old Feb 15, 2023, 1:06 am
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Coffin 767s? Hard pass at even $1K less
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Old Feb 15, 2023, 3:36 pm
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Is this even a deal? Isn't $3000 RT to Europe normal? Sub $2000 is typically a "deal" in my book for the EU.
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Old Feb 15, 2023, 3:54 pm
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I noticed some availability LAX-LHR on the nonstop in the middle of summer (May/June). I feel like that is a good price IMO
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Old Feb 15, 2023, 4:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Jerkstore
Is this even a deal? Isn't $3000 RT to Europe normal? Sub $2000 is typically a "deal" in my book for the EU.
You are still in the pre-Covid mindset. These days $3000 is the new $2000. I am having the same adjustment issues. Headed to UK in May, but in coach. Even with this "deal", it was just over 3K from IND for J, but about $800 in Y. 800 is the new 500 for the back of the bus.
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Old Feb 15, 2023, 4:47 pm
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Originally Posted by LostInAmerica
You are still in the pre-Covid mindset. These days $3000 is the new $2000. I am having the same adjustment issues. Headed to UK in May, but in coach. Even with this "deal", it was just over 3K from IND for J, but about $800 in Y. 800 is the new 500 for the back of the bus.
$800 for TATL in Y is a bargain. All the flights I have been checking from LAX to anywhere in Europe have been in the $1200-1500 range. Going back the last five years, that was the PE price. Now PE is going for $2400, which is higher than the going rate for J up until mid 2022. Meanwhile, airlines are joining the oil companies in raking in record profits at our expense, laughing all the way to the bank. Remind me again why we bailed them out during COVID???

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Old Feb 15, 2023, 5:22 pm
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Originally Posted by LostInAmerica
You are still in the pre-Covid mindset. These days $3000 is the new $2000. I am having the same adjustment issues. Headed to UK in May, but in coach. Even with this "deal", it was just over 3K from IND for J, but about $800 in Y. 800 is the new 500 for the back of the bus.
3000 is still 3000. Regular TATL J r/t prices on Condor (good for 200% os AS) are in the $2800 range.
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Old Feb 15, 2023, 5:35 pm
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767-300 is the old Delta-one cabin, ancient TV screens and not worth the $3000 RT IMHO. There are a lot of new airlines that are coming in to take advantage of the demand - Play, Norse, Condor etc. - expecting international fares to come down big-time in the next few months as tech travel in biz has tapered off, I can see this with AF/KLM and will trickle down to Delta very soon.
Agreed the fares are high - a good indication of the fare is to see if consolidator fares are available (can use the expedia 1-day stay package hack to check), if you don't see good consolidator fares, then you know the demand is still too high and supply low.
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Old Feb 15, 2023, 9:44 pm
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Originally Posted by ksdelta
... expecting international fares to come down big-time in the next few months as tech travel in biz has tapered off, I can see this with AF/KLM and will trickle down to Delta very soon...
I hope your prediction of lower prices comes true! As many have said before, current "deal" prices seem high!
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Old Feb 15, 2023, 11:04 pm
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[QUOTE=ksdelta;35014650]
Agreed the fares are high - a good indication of the fare is to see if consolidator fares are available (can use the expedia 1-day stay package hack to check)/QUOTE]

Can you kindly explain how to use this 1-day package hack?
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Old Feb 16, 2023, 6:50 am
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Originally Posted by sfvoyage

Can you kindly explain how to use this 1-day package hack?
Instead of booking just a flight ticket, buy a package. Add a hotel stay for 1 night.
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Old Feb 17, 2023, 7:21 pm
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Coffin 767s? Hard pass at even $1K less

I did laugh at this. So...true. 767-400? Sure. 767-300? No way.+
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Old Feb 17, 2023, 7:25 pm
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[QUOTE=sfvoyage;35015260]
Originally Posted by ksdelta
Agreed the fares are high - a good indication of the fare is to see if consolidator fares are available (can use the expedia 1-day stay package hack to check)/QUOTE]

Can you kindly explain how to use this 1-day package hack?

I'll respond: you go to+ expedia and book a bundle with flight and hotel. But only put in for one night hotel (it becomes a throw away). The real value in the bundle is you get these non-marketed bundled bulk fares. I've done it twice in the past 7 years. Once+ to Mumbai for $2200 on KLM/AF. And once to Cape Town ($2175). You get full mileage credit with the bulk fare.
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Old Feb 17, 2023, 7:29 pm
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Originally Posted by sfvoyage


I'll respond: you go to+ expedia and book a bundle with flight and hotel. But only put in for one night hotel (it becomes a throw away). The real value in the bundle is you get these non-marketed bundled bulk fares. I've done it twice in the past 7 years. Once+ to Mumbai for $2200 on KLM/AF. And once to Cape Town ($2175). You get full mileage credit with the bulk fare.
So I guess nobody cares if I don't use the 1-night hotel stay, right?

I just tried this on expedia, but the pricing with 1 night hotel isn't any better. I am totally flexible with flight dates. Is there a calendar view so I can pick the flight dates with the best airfare?

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Old Feb 18, 2023, 7:47 am
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Sometimes there’s good value in the packages sometimes there isn’t.
It used to be very easy to get these deals via AA Vacations but they cracked down a few years ago. You could also buy the cancellation waiver and effectively get a refundable ticket for a fraction of the published price.
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