Skyteam Multiple USA cities - Europe e.g. LAX-BER Biz RT $2,967
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Skyteam Multiple USA cities - Europe e.g. LAX-BER Biz RT $2,967
Multiple US cities : Los Angeles, San Diego, Las Vegas, New York, Austin, New Orleans, Salt Lake City etc…
Multiple European destinations : Berlin, Munich, Frankfurt, Brussels, Luxemberg, London, Stockholm, etc…
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 20APR23. ALL TRAVEL MUST BE COMPLETED BY MIDNIGHT ON 17SEP23.
NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
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Multiple European destinations : Berlin, Munich, Frankfurt, Brussels, Luxemberg, London, Stockholm, etc…
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 20APR23. ALL TRAVEL MUST BE COMPLETED BY MIDNIGHT ON 17SEP23.
NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
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You are still in the pre-Covid mindset. These days $3000 is the new $2000. I am having the same adjustment issues. Headed to UK in May, but in coach. Even with this "deal", it was just over 3K from IND for J, but about $800 in Y. 800 is the new 500 for the back of the bus.
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You are still in the pre-Covid mindset. These days $3000 is the new $2000. I am having the same adjustment issues. Headed to UK in May, but in coach. Even with this "deal", it was just over 3K from IND for J, but about $800 in Y. 800 is the new 500 for the back of the bus.
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You are still in the pre-Covid mindset. These days $3000 is the new $2000. I am having the same adjustment issues. Headed to UK in May, but in coach. Even with this "deal", it was just over 3K from IND for J, but about $800 in Y. 800 is the new 500 for the back of the bus.
#8
Join Date: Dec 2019
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767-300 is the old Delta-one cabin, ancient TV screens and not worth the $3000 RT IMHO. There are a lot of new airlines that are coming in to take advantage of the demand - Play, Norse, Condor etc. - expecting international fares to come down big-time in the next few months as tech travel in biz has tapered off, I can see this with AF/KLM and will trickle down to Delta very soon.
Agreed the fares are high - a good indication of the fare is to see if consolidator fares are available (can use the expedia 1-day stay package hack to check), if you don't see good consolidator fares, then you know the demand is still too high and supply low.
Agreed the fares are high - a good indication of the fare is to see if consolidator fares are available (can use the expedia 1-day stay package hack to check), if you don't see good consolidator fares, then you know the demand is still too high and supply low.
#9
Join Date: May 2015
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I hope your prediction of lower prices comes true! As many have said before, current "deal" prices seem high!
#10
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[QUOTE=ksdelta;35014650]
Agreed the fares are high - a good indication of the fare is to see if consolidator fares are available (can use the expedia 1-day stay package hack to check)/QUOTE]
Can you kindly explain how to use this 1-day package hack?
Agreed the fares are high - a good indication of the fare is to see if consolidator fares are available (can use the expedia 1-day stay package hack to check)/QUOTE]
Can you kindly explain how to use this 1-day package hack?
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[QUOTE=sfvoyage;35015260]
I'll respond: you go to+ expedia and book a bundle with flight and hotel. But only put in for one night hotel (it becomes a throw away). The real value in the bundle is you get these non-marketed bundled bulk fares. I've done it twice in the past 7 years. Once+ to Mumbai for $2200 on KLM/AF. And once to Cape Town ($2175). You get full mileage credit with the bulk fare.
I'll respond: you go to+ expedia and book a bundle with flight and hotel. But only put in for one night hotel (it becomes a throw away). The real value in the bundle is you get these non-marketed bundled bulk fares. I've done it twice in the past 7 years. Once+ to Mumbai for $2200 on KLM/AF. And once to Cape Town ($2175). You get full mileage credit with the bulk fare.
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Join Date: Aug 2002
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[QUOTE=ATLConsultant;35020092]
I'll respond: you go to+ expedia and book a bundle with flight and hotel. But only put in for one night hotel (it becomes a throw away). The real value in the bundle is you get these non-marketed bundled bulk fares. I've done it twice in the past 7 years. Once+ to Mumbai for $2200 on KLM/AF. And once to Cape Town ($2175). You get full mileage credit with the bulk fare.
So I guess nobody cares if I don't use the 1-night hotel stay, right?
I just tried this on expedia, but the pricing with 1 night hotel isn't any better. I am totally flexible with flight dates. Is there a calendar view so I can pick the flight dates with the best airfare?
I'll respond: you go to+ expedia and book a bundle with flight and hotel. But only put in for one night hotel (it becomes a throw away). The real value in the bundle is you get these non-marketed bundled bulk fares. I've done it twice in the past 7 years. Once+ to Mumbai for $2200 on KLM/AF. And once to Cape Town ($2175). You get full mileage credit with the bulk fare.
I just tried this on expedia, but the pricing with 1 night hotel isn't any better. I am totally flexible with flight dates. Is there a calendar view so I can pick the flight dates with the best airfare?
Last edited by sfvoyage; Feb 17, 2023 at 6:34 pm
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Sometimes there’s good value in the packages sometimes there isn’t.
It used to be very easy to get these deals via AA Vacations but they cracked down a few years ago. You could also buy the cancellation waiver and effectively get a refundable ticket for a fraction of the published price.
It used to be very easy to get these deals via AA Vacations but they cracked down a few years ago. You could also buy the cancellation waiver and effectively get a refundable ticket for a fraction of the published price.