AV: MIA - GIG/GRU/SCL J from $1130
Dec 12, 2021, 11:19 am
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AV: MIA - GIG/GRU/SCL J from $1130
I believe those fares have been around for a while but worth mentioning. A fares. Sampled dates April 4 - 16, 2022.
MIA - SCL from $1130
MIA - GIG from $1136
MIA - GRU from $1177
It's easier to spot those fares using Google. OTAs may offer lower fares but not much.
Caveats: As usual, monitor the COVID-19 entry restrictions (including coming back to US) and any segments may be switched to narrowbodies at any moment (currently AV operates all flights to deep SA with A320s).
MIA - SCL from $1130
MIA - GIG from $1136
MIA - GRU from $1177
It's easier to spot those fares using Google. OTAs may offer lower fares but not much.
Caveats: As usual, monitor the COVID-19 entry restrictions (including coming back to US) and any segments may be switched to narrowbodies at any moment (currently AV operates all flights to deep SA with A320s).
Dec 13, 2021, 2:00 am
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When flights are described as intercontinental business class, most travelers would assume certain minimal standards for service and comfort. Avianca will fall far short of them. It's very misleading to present these fares as "Business Class", and they're definitely not "Deals".
Dec 13, 2021, 5:20 am
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When flights are described as intercontinental business class, most travelers would assume certain minimal standards for service and comfort. Avianca will fall far short of them. It's very misleading to present these fares as "Business Class", and they're definitely not "Deals".
Dec 13, 2021, 8:46 am
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They are business class. Just because AV doesn't offer an even mediocre business class, doesn't mean it's not business. Like saying that because UA doesn't offer Qatar like business class, that UA doesn't have business class. Travel between N and S America in business can varying widely. This is no different than travel from east coast to HI can vary depending on if going directly from East coast/Central US hub or connecting via LAX/SFO/SEA instead.
Just a heads up, Avianca per OMAAT is changing their business model on the Airbus 320s. They will reconfigure towards a more Euro-Business seats which is rough for considering they have deep South America flights which are rough in a US Business Class recliner seat and now worse in a Euro-Business.
Dec 13, 2021, 2:44 pm
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I had a chance to try the AV 787 Business Class about 4 yrs ago on their Flagship route BOG-MAD. Indeed the seats had the expected comfort. Nothing else was close to acceptable -- rude FA's, inedible "food", bathrooms without toiletries, and never cleaned even once. By the end of the flight, the entire J-cabin stank like a latrine. Perhaps poor ventilation as well.
I guess one could easily survive a 2-hr flight on AV, but longer flights are risky and no bargain at those fares.
I guess one could easily survive a 2-hr flight on AV, but longer flights are risky and no bargain at those fares.
Dec 13, 2021, 3:10 pm
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Avianca on a good day is a subpar US3 experience on average they make the laziest US3 FA seem like the SQ or CX FA of the year...
I flew them on their 787 from BOG-LIM , they would even ignore the call button and I'm a native Spanish speaker...
I flew them on their 787 from BOG-LIM , they would even ignore the call button and I'm a native Spanish speaker...
Dec 13, 2021, 4:27 pm
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And that seams to be a big if even pre pandemic as I believe BOG-LAX was the most consistent route getting the 787. Those all now seem to be relegated to Europe and the occasional BOG-MEX ( maybe since AM runs the 787 on that route ) for the time being.
Dec 13, 2021, 5:49 pm
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With the condition AV is in financially, I can't imagine service will improve anytime soon.
Dec 13, 2021, 6:03 pm
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This is the reason I attached a big caveat toward the end. All replies have valid points. I just checked all their main routes, JFK, MIA, EZE, GRU, GIG, SCL, and LAX. So far only LAX is getting A330 and the rest are all narrow bodies, not to mention they'll soon be premium seats (sarcasm), so don't count on getting on 787 and A330 even if it says so.
My choice of going to South America now has becomes this, LA>AM>>>>>>>AV (race to the bottom).
My choice of going to South America now has becomes this, LA>AM>>>>>>>AV (race to the bottom).
Dec 16, 2021, 7:32 pm
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Wow ...my AV 787 experience a few years ago was just fine. My only disappointment was that the BOG lounge was pretty mediocre.
Just have to watch the flights as they operate quite a few overnight flights with regular (non-bed) narrowbodies.
Just have to watch the flights as they operate quite a few overnight flights with regular (non-bed) narrowbodies.