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Old Oct 29, 2020, 8:30 am
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AM: SFO-MEX-LIM return biz, $518 May

I've been monitoring this fare for my brother since he has an Aeromexico credit he needs to use. I see the fare in May, but have not checked other dates (or origins). These are not lie-flats, but on Delta the MQD will be around $3600, and MQM will be around 13500, and the RDM will be around 18000 plus bonuses for Delta elites. This itinerary has been $900+ recently.
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Old Oct 29, 2020, 8:41 am
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LIM has been below 600 a few times over the past few months.. also have seen in the last month ORD-LIM $488 DEN-LIM $499

SFO-LIM would earn 13530 MQMs 3608 MQDs 6.97 MQD Ratio
Delta Diamond members would obtain 39688 RDMs, Platinum 32472 RDMs, Gold 28864 RDMs, Silver 25256 RDMs, Base 18040 RDMs
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Old Oct 29, 2020, 8:46 am
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I purchased this exact itinerary for $443 USD yesterday. Then the price immediately jumped up to $513. Did AM forget to charge me taxes?
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Old Oct 29, 2020, 10:05 am
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It was $463 From SMF last week - just an hour drive from SFO.
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Old Oct 29, 2020, 10:46 am
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$432 from YYZ
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Old Oct 29, 2020, 11:04 am
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Originally Posted by jfkeze
LIM has been below 600 a few times over the past few months.. also have seen in the last month ORD-LIM $488 DEN-LIM $499

SFO-LIM would earn 13530 MQMs 3608 MQDs 6.97 MQD Ratio
Delta Diamond members would obtain 39688 RDMs, Platinum 32472 RDMs, Gold 28864 RDMs, Silver 25256 RDMs, Base 18040 RDMs
That being an I fare wouldn't it be 150% RDM bonus for Delta Diamonds?


i.e. (9,020 x 2) + (9,020 x 1.5) = 31,570 RDM

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Old Oct 29, 2020, 12:13 pm
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Originally Posted by mileageking
$432 from YYZ
or $560 CAD ($420 USD) from YVR, great fare!!
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Old Oct 29, 2020, 12:33 pm
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As far as my model goes, the variable is earned base RDMs 18040 (200% of the 9020 flown miles) then the Delta bonus for status holders is 120% of the RDMs, if not mistaken... 21648... we sum it up to 39688.
That's been my interpretation of the earnings... Of course models can be wrong, and partners that don't have the bonus are a twist. Same type of model for AA but going crazy with the development of an Avios / TP combined model...

(4) Medallion Mileage Bonus is based on Base Miles earned: Diamond - 120%; Platinum - 80%; Gold - 60%; Silver - 40%
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Old Oct 29, 2020, 2:50 pm
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Originally Posted by jfkeze

As far as my model goes, the variable is earned base RDMs 18040 (200% of the 9020 flown miles) then the Delta bonus for status holders is 120% of the RDMs, if not mistaken... 21648... we sum it up to 39688.
That's been my interpretation of the earnings... Of course models can be wrong, and partners that don't have the bonus are a twist. Same type of model for AA but going crazy with the development of an Avios / TP combined model...

(4) Medallion Mileage Bonus is based on Base Miles earned: Diamond - 120%; Platinum - 80%; Gold - 60%; Silver - 40%
Base miles here will be 100% of miles flown, not 200%.
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Old Oct 29, 2020, 4:12 pm
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But the base miles earned is not the flown distance, it's the flown*2... a Base flyer would earn 18040 and we use that as the X since its 40-60-80-120% of X + X...
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Old Oct 29, 2020, 6:11 pm
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But the base miles earned is not the flown distance, it's the flown*2... a Base flyer would earn 18040 and we use that as the X since its 40-60-80-120% of X + X...
I want you to be right, but the Delta website seems to say something else. I'm attaching a screenshot of the earnings breakout of a trip from earlier this year, where the "base miles" are clearly 100% of the miles flown. I did not have status at that time, so I can't tell if the medallion multiplier applies to the base or the base plus the bonus. Does anyone have something similar they can share where we can see whether the medallion bonus applies to 100% or 200% of the distance flown?
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Old Oct 29, 2020, 8:12 pm
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As been mentioned before, AM is in bankruptcy and has been terrible with refunding involuntary changes. Buyer beware.
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Old Oct 30, 2020, 2:08 am
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Originally Posted by tkelvin69
As been mentioned before, AM is in bankruptcy and has been terrible with refunding involuntary changes. Buyer beware.
I seriously doubt AM will go bust. If them, then everyone.
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Old Oct 30, 2020, 7:53 am
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Originally Posted by tkelvin69
As been mentioned before, AM is in bankruptcy and has been terrible with refunding involuntary changes. Buyer beware.
Indeed but what's the risk really? I do not expect any changes to my itinerary really. If AM shuts down I will call Chase and get my money back (either by disputing the charge or making a claim with the travel interruption insurance). Huge upside on these deals and small downside (IMHO).
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Old Oct 30, 2020, 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by MightyTravels
Indeed but what's the risk really? I do not expect any changes to my itinerary really. If AM shuts down I will call Chase and get my money back (either by disputing the charge or making a claim with the travel interruption insurance). Huge upside on these deals and small downside (IMHO).
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I seriously doubt AM will go bust. If them, then everyone.
Yeah, I didn't expect AM to strand me in Peru either but then there's a little issue called a pandemic which seemed to allow this airline to do whatever they wanted.

Just go to the South American Airlines forum and see how easy it is to deal with AM. I don't have any problem with you booking with them but I do have a problem with touting a good airfare that has a big potential for frustration and potentially not getting the services paid for. AM is the rotten apple in the barrel.
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