Ba: J lgw oak 993 gbp rt

Old Dec 5, 17, 3:08 am
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Ba: J lgw oak 993 gbp rt

A great BA J cabin deal from LGW to OAK return.

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Old Dec 5, 17, 3:51 am
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nice find! I tried to add LCY from AMS/RTM, but this time this doesn't help, nor other gateways
lowest fares are on 29.1., 12./19./26.2. till end of March
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Old Dec 5, 17, 3:53 am
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Originally Posted by beardie View Post
nice find! I tried to add LCY from AMS/RTM, but this time this doesn't help, nor other gateways
The fare is only valid on the single BA flight, as per the fare rules.

Category 2: Day/Time restrictions
PERMITTED MON/TUE/WED/THU ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
Category 3: Seasonal restrictions
PERMITTED 07JAN THROUGH 28FEB.
Category 4: Flight restrictions
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA ON NONSTOP/DIRECT FLIGHTS.
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Old Dec 5, 17, 3:58 am
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where can I find those detailed fare rules pls?
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Old Dec 5, 17, 4:05 am
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That's a corker.
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Old Dec 5, 17, 4:11 am
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found in matrix ^^
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Old Dec 5, 17, 4:45 am
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Thank you for posting Provance (shame about date restrictions).

Am I correct in assuming this will be in the aged 777 or are they refurbished?
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Old Dec 5, 17, 5:41 am
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Originally Posted by beardie View Post
where can I find those detailed fare rules pls?
You can find them on Matrix, but here they are:

British Airways (BA) ILX4T4S4 LON to OAK
General notes


Category 1: Eligibility restrictions
VALID FOR ADULT. THIS FARE IS VALID FOR A SPECIFIED ACCOUNT CODE. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS. OR - FOR ADULT. THIS FARE IS VALID FOR A SPECIFIED ACCOUNT CODE. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS. OR - FOR ADULT.
Category 2: Day/Time restrictions
PERMITTED MON/TUE/WED/THU ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
Category 3: Seasonal restrictions
PERMITTED 07JAN THROUGH 28FEB.
Category 4: Flight restrictions
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA ON NONSTOP/DIRECT FLIGHTS.
Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 14 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 14 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER. NOTE - DUE TO TTL ROBOT PROCESS DIFFERENCES MAY EXIST BETWEEN THE CRS LAST TICKETING DATE AND TTL ROBOT REMARK. THE INFORMATION BY SSR IN THE PNR PREVAILS.
Category 6: Minimum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
Category 7: Maximum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Category 8: Stopover restrictions
STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Category 9: Transfer restrictions
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE 2 FREE ON AA/AB/AY/BA/HG/IB ONLY IN EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION. AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND B6 IN BOS/JFK IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND AS IN LAX/PDX/SEA IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND WS IN CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND HA IN HAWAII IN EACH DIRECTION 2 FREE ON AA/BA/IB ONLY IN THE UNITED STATES/ CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Category 10: Combinability
DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED. END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23. OPEN JAWS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH BA FARES -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS. A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT. PROVIDED - THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE WITHIN -WITHIN NORTH AMERICA OR WITHIN UNITED KINGDOM COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER BA IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF AATBAR - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRA12P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2 EXCEPT US/CA FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRA13P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3 EXCEPT US/CA FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3 IPRA - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA ATLANTIC SA2BAR - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC SA3BAR - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA ATLANTIC TAFPBAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2. ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH BA FARES -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER BA IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF AATBAR - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRA12P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2 EXCEPT US/CA FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRA13P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3 EXCEPT US/CA FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3 IPRA - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA ATLANTIC SA2BAR - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC SA3BAR - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA ATLANTIC TAFPBAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2.
Category 12: Surcharges
IF INFANT UNDER 02 WITHOUT A SEAT. THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL. A SURCHARGE OF GBP 29.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL. PROVIDED TRAVEL IS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING BA FLIGHT 2273 BA FLIGHT 2277.
Category 12: Surcharges
IF INFANT UNDER 02 WITHOUT A SEAT. OR - INE UNDER 02. OR - INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT RESIDENT UNDER 02. OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02. OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02. OR - MISSIONARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02. OR - MILITARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02. OR - PIF UNDER 02. THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL. THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL. THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL. THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL. THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL. ORIGINATING UNITED KINGDOM - A SURCHARGE OF GBP 8.00 PER FARE COMPONENT WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 14DEC 17 AND MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR IB.
Category 16: Penalties
CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE. NOTE - FARE COMPONENT IS NON-REFUNDABLE. -------------------------------------------- WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS TRAVELLING COMPANIONS. ---------------------------------------------- WHEN COMBINING NON-REFUNDABLE FARES WITH REFUNDABLE FARES 1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT IS REFUNDED. 2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH NON-REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED. 3. WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE COMPONENTS. ---------------------------------------------- REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ASSOCIATED CARRIER IMPOSED CHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED. --------------------------------------------- REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY. -------------------------------------------- ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE. ---------------------------------------------- TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON. --------------------------------------------- ------ CANCELLATION REPRICING CONDITIONS----- REPRICE USING ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT ERU AND EOU. FLOWN COUPONS MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE. THE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY TRAVELLED MUST BE CAPPED AT THE TOTAL FARE AMOUNT PLUS CARRIER IMPOSED CHARGE PAID ON THE TICKET BEING PRESENTED FOR REFUND. FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MAY BE REPRICED USING ANY BOOKING CODE WITHIN THE SAME CABIN PROVIDED THE NEW FARE AMOUNT IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN ORIGINAL. PARTIALLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MUST BE REPRICED USING THE SAME OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE. CHANGES ANY TIME CHANGES NOT PERMITTED. NOTE - A CHANGE IS A DATE/FLIGHT/ROUTING/BOOKING CODE CHANGE. ---------------------------------------------- WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CHANGE FEES THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ANY OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS APPLIES WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION WHEN COMBINING NON-CHANGEABLE FARES WITH CHANGEABLE FARES THE CHANGEABLE FARE COMPONENTS REMAIN CHANGEABLE. -------------------------------------------------- TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
Category 17: HIP exceptions
THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR CONNECTIONS. AND - THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR STOPOVERS.
Category 18: Endorsements
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - 467107/L/BA-IB ONLY - AND - NON-REF/NON-END - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
Category 19: Discounts
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY ADULT OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY ADULT OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY ADULT.
Category 23: Miscellaneous Fare Tags
THIS FARE MUST NOT BE USED FOR ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION. THIS FARE MUST NOT BE USED AS THE HIGH OR THE LOW FARE WHEN CALCULATING A DIFFERENTIAL. THIS FARE MUST NOT BE USED AS THE THROUGH FARE WHEN PRICING A FARE COMPONENT WITH A DIFFERENTIAL.
Category 25: Fare By Rule
ORIGINATING UNITED KINGDOM - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
Category 31: Voluntary changes
IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS ANYTIME CHANGES EXCEPT RBD NOT PERMITTED TO THE FARE COMPONENT- CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS.
Category 33: Voluntary cancellations
REFER TO PENALTIES CATEGORY 16
Category 35: Negotiated Fares
IF ADULT. THIS FARE IS VALID FOR A SPECIFIED ACCOUNT CODE. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS. SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS IF ADULT. THIS FARE IS VALID FOR A SPECIFIED ACCOUNT CODE. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS. SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS
Category 50: Application
BRITISH AIRWAYS SPECIAL FIRST AND BUSINESS CLASS DUAL INVENTORY FARES APPLICATION AREA THESE FARES APPLY FROM UNITED KINGDOM TO AREA 1. CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/SINGLE OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS. THIS RULE GOVERNS ROUND-TRIP FARES. --- AVAILABILITY AND PRICE OF THIS FARE IS DETERMINED BY THE LOWEST AVAILABLE BUSINESS BOOKING CLASS. SEE GGAIRBAGDIF FOR FURTHER INFORMATION. CAPACITY LIMITATIONS THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT RULES NOT APPLICABLE 35 PASSENGER EXPENSES EN ROUTE NOTE - THE TICKET IS INVALID FOR TRAVEL IF FLIGHT COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN SEQUENCE. FARE DOES NOT APPLY FOR REFUND CALCULATION AFTER TRAVEL AT A HIGHER FARE.
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Old Dec 5, 17, 5:43 am
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Thank you for posting Provance (shame about date restrictions).

Am I correct in assuming this will be in the aged 777 or are they refurbished?
It will be a rust-bucket 777 that BA operates out of LGW. Overall, a poor product, but then again you get what you pay for
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Old Dec 5, 17, 6:05 am
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Originally Posted by rossmacd View Post
It will be a rust-bucket 777 that BA operates out of LGW. Overall, a poor product, but then again you get what you pay for
true and taking into account ex-eu positioning..not that bad. Also the Gatwick crew is pretty nice as I recall from my recent trip to Mauritius...(not the mixed fleet)
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Old Dec 5, 17, 12:05 pm
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Any hard product difference for Club World flights out of LHR and LGW?
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Old Dec 5, 17, 12:15 pm
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Any hard product difference for Club World flights out of LHR and LGW?
I don't believe so.

Amazing fare!!!
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Old Dec 5, 17, 2:24 pm
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Sorry that's incorrect, there are differences. As rossmacd says, the 772 aircraft which run this route are super old blurry IFE screen, no at-seat power and generally feel ancient, recently travelled on one of these and it felt every one of its years compared with the refurbished 777/A380/787 seat which has power and up to date IFE. They are easy to identify as they have no F cabin and the seat map will look like this http://thebasource.com/seatmaps/77e/40j219y.html
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Old Dec 5, 17, 2:31 pm
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Booked 2/10/17 with a return 6/11/17 for $1347 each. Thanks Provance!
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Old Dec 5, 17, 3:07 pm
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Originally Posted by obduro View Post
Sorry that's incorrect, there are differences. As rossmacd says, the 772 aircraft which run this route are super old blurry IFE screen, no at-seat power and generally feel ancient, recently travelled on one of these and it felt every one of its years compared with the refurbished 777/A380/787 seat which has power and up to date IFE. They are easy to identify as they have no F cabin and the seat map will look like this http://thebasource.com/seatmaps/77e/40j219y.html
Exactly - it's a BA time machine used to compete on Norwegian routes. This is a good deal even considering that since it is in the prem economy price range.
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