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Saudia GVA-KUL,CGK,MNL £750ish AI RT

Saudia GVA-KUL,CGK,MNL £750ish AI RT

Old Oct 14, 17, 6:32 pm
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Saudia GVA-KUL,CGK,MNL £750ish AI RT

As detailed above found lots of dates on Kayak next Feb, did get the idea from SF blog who were detailing the economy pricing and saw business prices were decent as well.

Am aware SV isn't for everyone but could incorporate a GVA-MNL with the current China Eastern fare from CRK-US, and have a bit of a Skyteam feast.
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Old Oct 14, 17, 10:42 pm
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Thanks OP. Looks like an error fare though as it is clearly labelled as Economy despite I is indeed business with SV.

Fare rules & restrictions
Saudia (SV) IPRCH GVA to KUL
General notes
BASIC SEASON ECONOMY CLASS PROMOTIONAL I
FARES
FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
FOR ADULT
Category 1: Eligibility restrictions
NOTE -
UNACCOMPANIED INFANT- NOT ELIGABLE
Category 3: Seasonal restrictions
PERMITTED 01JAN THROUGH 31DEC ON THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL
SECTOR.
Category 4: Flight restrictions
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
SV FLIGHTS 6000 THROUGH 6249.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY SV FLIGHT.
Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions
RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
NOTE -
FOR GO SHOW PASSENGER ON M CLASS OR B CLASS
RESERVATION ARE NOT REQUIRED FOR PASSENGERS
PURCHASING TICKET AT THE SV ATO ONLY
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IF A TICKET IS USED OUT OF SEQUENCE SV RESERVES TH
E RIGHT TO CANCEL ANY PNR OR INVALIDATE THE REMAIN
ING FLIGHT COUPONS.
Category 7: Maximum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12
MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Category 8: Stopover restrictions
ORIGINATING EUROPE -
5 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
LIMITED TO 2 FREE AND UNLIMITED AT USD 150.00 EACH.
1 FREE IN RUH
UNLIMITED IN MED AT USD 150.00 EACH
UNLIMITED IN JED AT USD 150.00 EACH.
INFANT IS FREE.
Category 9: Transfer restrictions
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH
DIRECTION
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE
FARE COMPONENT.
Category 10: Combinability
DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED.
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH SV DOMESTIC/
INTERNATIONAL FARES VIA SAUDI ARABIA/SAUDI ARABIA.
VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH SV
FARES
-TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF 4 FARE BREAK POINTS PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER SV IN RULE
SPA1/15SV IN TARIFF
IPREUAS - BETWEEN EUROPE-AREA 3.
Category 12: Surcharges
ORIGINATING EUROPE -
A SURCHARGE OF USD 200.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE
APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL FROM 20JUN 17 THROUGH
10JUL 17 WHEN TRAVEL IS TO/FROM/VIA AREA 2/AREA 3.
Category 14: Travel restrictions
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 01JAN 18 AND ON/
BEFORE 31MAR 18.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 18SEP 17 AND ON/BEFORE
31OCT 17.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON SV OR SV AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN
SUDAN/EGYPT/NIGERIA/QATAR
PAYMENT MAY NOT BE MADE BY GTR.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING.
NOTE -
PAYMENT SHOULD BE CASH/CREDIT CARD ACCEPTED BY
SAUDIA/COMMERCIAL ACCOUNT.
Category 16: Penalties
ORIGINATING SWITZERLAND -
CHANGES
ANY TIME
PER COUPON CHARGE 25 PERCENT FOR NO-SHOW.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
NOTE -
RESERVATION REQUIRED TKT MUST NOT LEFT OPEN.
WHEN THE COUPON IS SUSPENDED. ONLY ONE PENALTY IS
APPLIED IN ORDER TO REVALIDATE/REISSUE OR REFUND
AT SAME TIME.
PER TICKET CHARGE CHF 74.00 FOR REISSUE/
REVALIDATION.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
NOTE -
FOR PARTIALLY USED TICKET NEW FARE WILL BE
RECALCULATED USING FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE
-----------------------------
FOR UNUSED TICKET NEW FARE WILL BE RECALCULATED
USING FARES IN EFFECT ON DATE OF REISSUE
-----------------------------
UPGRADE TO FIRST FREE OF CHARGE.
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
PER TICKET CHARGE CHF 99.00 FOR REFUND.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
Category 17: HIP exceptions
NOTE -
MILEAGE PRINCIPLE DO NOT APPLY
----
HIP CHECK DO NOT APPLY
Category 18: Endorsements
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED -
VALD 1Y FRM ISSUE DATE 4 - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
AND - THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE
ANNOTATED - NON USED TKT/1ST TRV USED - IN THE
ENDORSEMENT BOX.
NOTE -
1YEAR FROM DATE OF ISSUE IN CASE OF NOT USING ANY
COUPON FROM THE TICKET.
1YEAR FROM DATE OF BEGINNING OF THE FIRST FLIGHT
IN CASE OF USING PART OF THE TICKET.
Category 19: Discounts
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT
BY ADULT 12 OR OLDER
OR BY CONTRACT BULK ADULT 12 OR OLDER
OR BY INTERNET FARES 12 OR OLDER
OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH
OR - 1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
COMPARTMENT
BY ADULT 12 OR OLDER
OR BY CONTRACT BULK ADULT 12 OR OLDER
OR BY INTERNET FARES 12 OR OLDER
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
COMPARTMENT
BY ADULT 12 OR OLDER
OR BY CONTRACT BULK ADULT 12 OR OLDER
OR BY INTERNET FARES 12 OR OLDER
OR - CONTRACT BULK CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
COMPARTMENT
BY ADULT 12 OR OLDER
OR BY CONTRACT BULK ADULT 12 OR OLDER
OR BY INTERNET FARES 12 OR OLDER
OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH
OR - 1ST CONTRACT BULK INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 2 -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
COMPARTMENT
BY ADULT 12 OR OLDER
OR BY CONTRACT BULK ADULT 12 OR OLDER
OR BY INTERNET FARES 12 OR OLDER
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
COMPARTMENT
BY ACCOMPANIED CHILD 12 OR OLDER
OR BY CONTRACT BULK ADULT 12 OR OLDER
OR BY INTERNET FARES 12 OR OLDER.
Category 20: Tour Discounts
NOTE -
TOUR CONDUCTORS DISCOUNTS NOT PERMITTED.
Category 21: Agent Discounts
NOTE -
AGENT DISCOUNTS NOT PERMITTED.
Category 22: Other Discounts
NOTE -
ALL OTHER DISCOUNT SUCH AS ID/AD/ZZ/ZS/DG ARE
PROHIBITED.
Category 31: Voluntary changes
ORIGINATING SWITZERLAND -
ANYTIME WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF SV INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE CHF 74.00 FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL
CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY
AND
REPRICE
A. BEFORE JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE FARES IN EFFECT
TODAY
B. AFTER JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE HISTORICAL FARES
BASED ON TRAVEL COMMENCEMENT
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
3. SV FARES ARE USED
4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM NEW TKT ISSUE DATE IF
TRAVEL ON OUTBOUND FARE COMPONENT OF PRICING UNIT
CHANGED/OTHERWISE FROM PREVIOUS ISSUE DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA
ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT
ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
ANYTIME WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
THOSE OF SV INTERNATIONAL FARES
NO CHARGE FOR REISSUE OR SUM OF FEES OF ALL CHANGED
FARE COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
REPRICE
A. BEFORE JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
B. AFTER JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE HISTORICAL FARES BASED
ON TRAVEL COMMENCEMENT
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
3. SV FARE TYPE FR IS USED
4. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
TKT
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM NEW TKT ISSUE DATE IF
TRAVEL ON OUTBOUND FARE COMPONENT OF PRICING UNIT
CHANGED/OTHERWISE FROM PREVIOUS ISSUE DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM
THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL
FORM OF PAYMENT
ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
ANYTIME WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
THOSE OF SV INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE 25 PERCENT FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL
CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY
AND
REPRICE
A. BEFORE JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
B. AFTER JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE HISTORICAL FARES BASED
ON TRAVEL COMMENCEMENT
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
3. SV FARES ARE USED
4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM NEW TKT ISSUE DATE IF
TRAVEL ON OUTBOUND FARE COMPONENT OF PRICING UNIT
CHANGED/OTHERWISE FROM PREVIOUS ISSUE DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM
THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL
FORM OF PAYMENT
ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
Category 33: Voluntary cancellations
REFER TO PENALTIES CATEGORY 16
Category 50: Application
SPECIAL EXCURSION FARES UK TO AREA 3
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
FROM UNITED KINGDOM TO AREA 3.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP JOURNEYS.
OTHER CONDITIONS
PASSENGER EXPENSES ENROUTE - NOT PERMITTED.
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FOR REROUTE EXTEND OF TICKET VALIDITY AND REFUND
OF TICKET SEE RULE S111
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Old Oct 15, 17, 2:57 am
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What's Saudia's track record on honoring these fares?

Worst case scenario - they cancel... but is there even a REMOTE chance that they will downgrade to economy and not offer refunds?
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Old Oct 15, 17, 3:00 am
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Possible to book on Saudis web:
https://www.google.se/flights/#searc...GVA1SV237;sc=b

Examlpe gives around 13000 miles to Flying Blue
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Old Oct 15, 17, 4:24 am
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Is it possible to somehow sleep in the lounge on that return trip? You sure won't be able to get landside for a hotel.
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Old Oct 15, 17, 4:49 am
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Its the long transits it Saudi that rule it out for me sadly.
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Old Oct 15, 17, 5:29 am
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It's more a flash promotion? Because you have to pay this ticket before the end of this month
However the return layover in JED it's horrible
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Old Oct 15, 17, 7:39 am
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Not an error. This has been around for several weeks now, to a range of destinations. Most of the ME carriers intentionally price lower the itineraries that include a non-lie-flat 320 leg (GVA-Saudi in this case) due to commercial compulsions.
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Old Oct 15, 17, 8:07 am
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Originally Posted by flyingnomad View Post
Not an error. This has been around for several weeks now, to a range of destinations. Most of the ME carriers intentionally price lower the itineraries that include a non-lie-flat 320 leg (GVA-Saudi in this case) due to commercial compulsions.
I insist, there is an error on the fare. Not necessarily on the price itself, as - and you rightly pointed out - these bargains are common with SV, but on the fare rules that clearly state Economy.

I am booked in a couple of weeks on the FCO-CGK fare with SV for 480 EUR one-way: the fare rules (I as well) clearly state Business as opposed to that one.
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Old Oct 15, 17, 8:09 am
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Originally Posted by AurelAF96 View Post
However the return layover in JED it's horrible

With OJ in SE Asia you could find decent timings for the return.
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Old Oct 16, 17, 4:37 am
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Originally Posted by bodory View Post
With OJ in SE Asia you could find decent timings for the return.
What do you mean? You have an example?
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Old Oct 16, 17, 4:38 am
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Originally Posted by bodory View Post
I insist, there is an error on the fare. Not necessarily on the price itself, as - and you rightly pointed out - these bargains are common with SV, but on the fare rules that clearly state Economy.

I am booked in a couple of weeks on the FCO-CGK fare with SV for 480 EUR one-way: the fare rules (I as well) clearly state Business as opposed to that one.
Do you think SV will let this fare after the 31 of october?
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Old Oct 16, 17, 2:20 pm
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Originally Posted by AurelAF96 View Post
What do you mean? You have an example?
It means you can fly for example into Manila but return from Jakarta. That way you reduce the layover in Jeddah on the way back to "only" 7.5 hrs
https://www.google.co.uk/flights#flt...850*.GBP.76850
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Old Oct 16, 17, 2:24 pm
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We flew FCO-CGK this month, and were pretty satisfied with everything. Service on the JED-CGK segment was a bit underwhelming, but I loved the comfortable seat on the 777.

I wouldn't hesitate to take them again.
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Old Oct 16, 17, 3:00 pm
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On Jeddah-Kuala Lumpur and Riyadh-Kuala Lumpur are flown by Boeing 787-9 and it has new Business class seats.

Jaimito Cartero and blueslip like this.
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