Switzerland/Italy/Sweden to East & West Coast USA in WTP (PE) €600/690 (3x Avios)
Jan 7, 2017, 4:42 pm
#31
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Jan 7, 2017, 8:56 pm
#32
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Jan 8, 2017, 12:17 am
#33
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If I understand it correctly, the main consequence of it is that you cannot book and upgrade at the same time. You need to book them first and call to upgrade. Try and do it online and the base fare will be (much) higher.
Make sure there is availability for the class you want to upgrade to. With BA upgrades are not available as matter of factly as with some US airlines.
Everything else (like earnings) are the same. I am happy to be corrected.
Make sure there is availability for the class you want to upgrade to. With BA upgrades are not available as matter of factly as with some US airlines.
Everything else (like earnings) are the same. I am happy to be corrected.
Jan 8, 2017, 3:53 am
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Jan 8, 2017, 4:29 am
#38
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In principle it's a great thing for customers that competition increased a lot In Premium Eco. Before rarely BA Fares found below 1000€. Now easy to find fares below 700€. In that respect BA added a new fare basis which is not upgradedable anymore via travel agency. This is a sweet spot for GUFs owner so far. But still those DIF fare can still be upgraded with Avios if redemption seat in higher class is available. The sweet spot with TA is that Award space don't need to be available AND you get Avios and TP of higher class. Upgradedable WT+ fares still available and still in the same ball park as before. The Ex Switzerland to Singapore was upgradeable and cheap 
Last edited by bivinco; Jan 8, 2017 at 4:35 am
Jan 8, 2017, 8:52 am
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Jan 8, 2017, 9:45 am
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Thanks henkybaby!
I was able to book from FRA-NYC in the middle of summer for a slightly higher amount, but still about the same as I would normally pay for basic economy at that time of year.
I was able to book from FRA-NYC in the middle of summer for a slightly higher amount, but still about the same as I would normally pay for basic economy at that time of year.
Jan 8, 2017, 12:30 pm
#42
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Jan 8, 2017, 3:59 pm
#43
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In case anyone is interested, I just booked an open-jaw OSL-LHR-SFO then LAX-LHR-OSL in Feb for 5339 NOK (approx £508) and upgraded the SFO and LAX legs from PE to Club...extra taxes were £8.50 outbound and nil tax inbound...30k avios upgrade out (off-peak) and 25k inbound (peak).
I'm expecting this trip to generate at least 35k Avios with the 3 x base miles promo bonus so not a bad return for 2 x Club flights of 10+ hours for £520 and an overall spend of approx 30k avios (positioning using Reward Flight Saver for 6,500 avios + £17.50).
-Mikee-
I'm expecting this trip to generate at least 35k Avios with the 3 x base miles promo bonus so not a bad return for 2 x Club flights of 10+ hours for £520 and an overall spend of approx 30k avios (positioning using Reward Flight Saver for 6,500 avios + £17.50).
-Mikee-
Jan 9, 2017, 11:59 am
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WTP is not the same as Economy Plus on US airlines. It is not just a few more inches. Especially if you can have an A380 or B787 route. For a couple the window seats are pretty good. Are there better PE products out there? Yes. As said the main attraction is the ability to Upgrade using Avios or the Airport / Proactive Upgrade Offers. They are of course not guaranteed. It is however a much better product than economy.
I like it on a day flight. Night flight I would prefer an upgrade.
I like it on a day flight. Night flight I would prefer an upgrade.
Is there any way to check inventory for Avios upgrades prior to booking (i.e. fare class?) I simply won't buy a non-refundable ticket and roll the dice, as is often the case for those trying to use SWUs to upgrade international tix on UA. Thanks.
Jan 9, 2017, 12:54 pm
#45
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Book a ticket
Book a ticket and see if the upgrade availability is there. If not cancel within 24 hours.
Or have an expert flyer membership and search for the related fare bucket.
IME the WT+ cabin on a/c like the A380 / 787s are better value than club world.
Or have an expert flyer membership and search for the related fare bucket.
IME the WT+ cabin on a/c like the A380 / 787s are better value than club world.