YVR-SIN $2468 on United

Old Apr 7, 15, 11:05 am
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YVR-SIN $2468 on United

Why this business "P" fare to SIN is so much cheaper from YVR than SEA I do not understand--$2468 v. $4972.
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Old Apr 7, 15, 11:08 am
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That's a great price. Any dates?
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Old Apr 7, 15, 11:16 am
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I found the fare in July and August, but the rules say all year. Who knows how long this will last.
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Old Apr 7, 15, 11:26 am
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Per the fare rules, it should allow transpacific travel on UA marketed, NH operated flights.

Interesting that the fare rules also explicitly disallow NH-marketed, BR/SQ/TG-operated flights on some intra-Asia flights.
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Old Apr 7, 15, 11:36 am
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Getting down to 2300ish on ANA. DL close to matching at 2600.
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Old Apr 7, 15, 1:08 pm
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Fare rules as below (this is the NH fare):

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RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS	   NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
   VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
   PACIFIC ROUND TRIP UPPER CABIN SAVER FARES
   APPLICATION
    AREA
     THESE FARES APPLY 
      BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3.
    CLASS OF SERVICE
     THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE.
    TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
     THIS RULE GOVERNS ROUND-TRIP FARES.
     FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
      ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
    CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
     THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
      CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
      THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
      AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
      WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
      FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST
      JUDGEMENT.
ELIGIBILITY	   NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
DAY/TIME	   PERMITTED SUN THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
SEASONALITY	   PERMITTED 01JAN THROUGH 31DEC ON THE OUTBOUND
   TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF
   ORIGIN.
FLIGHT APPLICATION	   THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA
   TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS ON
       ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
           ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA
           ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY NH
           ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY NQ.
   AND
   IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN TYO/OSA
   AND BKK/SIN
       THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
       ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
           ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY BR
           ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY SQ
           ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY TG.
   AND
   IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN TYO/OSA
   AND TPE
       THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
       ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
           ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY BR
           ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY SQ
           ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY TG.
   AND
   IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN TYO/OSA
   AND JKT/DPS
       THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
       ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
           ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY GA.
   AND
   IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN TYO/OSA
   AND MNL/CEB
       THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
       ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
           ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY PR.
   AND
   IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN UNITED
   STATES
       THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
       ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
           ANY AC FLIGHT.
ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING	   CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
   TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER
   RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.
MINIMUM STAY	   NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
MAXIMUM STAY	   TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
   6 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
STOPOVERS	   2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH
   DIRECTION AT CAD 100.00 EACH
       NONE IN GUAM
        IN AREA 3
   CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
TRANSFERS	   6 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
         1 PERMITTED IN CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION
         2 PERMITTED IN UNITED STATES IN EACH
        DIRECTION
         3 PERMITTED IN AREA 3 IN EACH DIRECTION.
   FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED
   SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
COMBINATIONS	    
    END-ON-END PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS.
    SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. TRAVEL
    MUST BE VIA POINT OF COMBINATION.
   OPEN JAWS
     FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
     -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS
      MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
      MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
     PROVIDED -
       WHEN THE OPEN SEGMENT OCCURS
       -BETWEEN AREA 2 AND AREA 3
       -WITHIN AREA 1 OR WITHIN AREA 3 COMBINATIONS ARE
        WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER UA/NH/AC/LH/LX/OS
        OR FOR CARRIER SN IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF.
   ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
     FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
     -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
     -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
      A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
      PERMITTED.
     PROVIDED -
       COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER UA/NH/
       AC/LH/LX/OS
       OR FOR CARRIER SN IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF.
   NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME
          POINT -
          NYC-EWR
BLACKOUT DATES	   NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
SURCHARGES	   NO SURCHARGE REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL	   ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.
TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS	   NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
SALES RESTRICTIONS	   FOOTNOTE RULE
   TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 30APR15.
 
   FARE RULE
   TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF NH OR UA.
PENALTIES	         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          --
            COMBINATION OF NON-REFUNDABLE / REFUNDABLE
            WITH A CANCELLATION PENALTY / FULLY REFUNDABLE
            - THE MOST RESTRICTIVE CANCELLATION PENALTY
            RULE APPLIES TO THE ENTIRE PRICING UNIT-
          --
   CANCELLATIONS
   
     BEFORE DEPARTURE
       CHARGE CAD 500.00 FOR CANCEL/NO-SHOW/REFUND.
       WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE.
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          --
            APPLY CAT 19 PROVISIONS FOR INFANT WITHOUT A
            SEAT // INFANT WITH A SEAT // CHILD
          --
          A. EXCHANGE - WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET / CHANGE TO
                  1ST TICKETED FLIGHT COUPON -
          --
            FULL VALUE OF WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET MAY BE
            APPLIED TOWARDS PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET PRICED
            AT CURRENT FARE LEVELS UPON PAYMENT OF THE
            CANCEL PENALTY CONTAINED WITHIN THIS RULE AND
            DIFFERENCE IN FARE/TAX/FEES/SURCHARGES
            COLLECTED/REFUNDED AT TIME OF EXCHANGE.
          --
          WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET / CHANGE TO 1ST TICKETED
          FLIGHT COUPON
          --
          REPRICE USING CURRENT QUALIFYING FARES
          --
          CHARGE ONLY ONE FEE THE HIGHEST FEE OF ONLY
          CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
          --
          1. ADVANCE RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE
          TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
          2. NH FARES ARE USED
          --
          WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN FARE DIFFERNCE --
          --
          WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE -
          RESIDUAL VALUE MAY BE APPLIED TOWARD CANCEL
          PENALTY
          --
          WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN HIGHER FARE -
          CHARGE FULL CANCEL PENALTY
          ADD COLLECT FARE DIFFERENCE IF APPLICABLE
          --
          --
          B.  EMERGENCY PROVISION
          --
          WAIVED FOR ILLNESS/INJURY OF PASSENGER OR
          ACCOMPANYING PASSENGER.
          WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER / ACCOMPANYING
          PASSENGER OR IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER NOT
          TRAVELING TOGETHER.
          WAIVER FOR ILLNESS/INJURY OR DEATH MUST BE
          SUBSTANTIATED BY A VALID MEDICAL OR DEATH
          CERTIFICATE.
          --
   
   AFTER DEPARTURE
       CHARGE CAD 500.00 FOR CANCEL/NO-SHOW/REFUND.
       WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE.
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          --
            APPLY CAT 19 PROVISIONS FOR INFANT WITHOUT A
            SEAT // INFANT WITH A SEAT // CHILD
          --
            CALCULATE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FARE PAID AND
            QUALIFYING FARE FOR TRAVEL COMPLETE /
            USING FARES OF ORIGINAL TICKET DATE /
            LESS CANCEL PENALTY /
            REFUND RESIDUAL VALUE IF ANY TO ORIGINAL
            FORM OF PAYMENT.
   
   CHANGES
   
     ANY TIME
       CHARGE CAD 450.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
       WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE.
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          --
            APPLY CAT 19 PROVISIONS FOR INFANT WITHOUT A
            SEAT // INFANT WITH A SEAT // CHILD
          --
          A.  CHANGE MADE TO OTHER THAN THE FIRST TICKETED
              FLIGHT COUPON
          --
          CHARGE ONLY ONE CHANGE FEE THE HIGHEST FEE OF
          ONLY THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS.
          --
            TICKET RESERVATIONS NOT BEING USED ARE TO BE
            CANCELLED PRIOR TO ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT.
            RETURN RESERVATIONS MAYBE SCHEDULED ANYTIME
            WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY.
            TICKET MUST BE REISSUED AT SAME TIME WHEN
            VOLUNTARY CHANGE IS CONFIRMED.
          --
            IF CHANGES ARE MADE TO OTHER THAN THE FIRST
            TICKETED FLIGHT / THE FARE LEVELS IN EFFECT
            AT TIME OF ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE WILL APPLY
            PROVIDED THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR
            ALL THE PROVISIONS OF THE ORIGINALLY
            TICKETED BOOKING CODE FARE BASIS CODE /
            IGNORING ADVANCE RESERVATION OR TICKETING
            REQUIREMENTS.
          --
          CHARGE ONLY ONE CHANGE FEE THE HIGHEST FEE OF
          ONLY THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS.
          --
                  REPRICE USING CURRENTLY TKTD FARE
                  SAME BOOKING CODE / KEEP THE FARE
                     SAME FARE BASIS CODE
          --
          PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET -
          --
          1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON/ NO CHNAGE TO
          FARE BREAKS
          2. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
          IGNORING ADV RES/TKT
          3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE
          TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
          --
          KEEP THE FARE / EVEN REISSUE
          CHARGE CHANGE FEE
          --
          OR
          --
            IF THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR THE
            ORIGINALLY TICKETED BOOKING CODE FARE -
            BUT RESULTS IN FARE DIFFERENCE DUE TO
            SEASONALITY / DAY OF WEEK TRAVEL / CHANGE TO
            FARE BREAK POINTS
          --
              HISTORICAL FARES / REPRICE USING
           FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TICKET WAS ISSUED
          PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET
          --
          1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON / CHANGE TO
          FARE BREAK POINT PERMITTED
          2. ALL BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
          3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE
          TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
          --
          WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN FARE DIFFERENCE
          --
          WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE -
          RESIDUAL VALUE MAY BE USED TOWARD CHANGE FEE
          --
          WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN HIGHER FARE
          CHARGE FULL CHANGE FEE
          ADD COLLECT FARE DIFFERENCE - IF APPLICABLE
          --
          OR
          --
            IF CHANGE BY THE PASSENGER NO LONGER QUALIFY
            FOR THE ORIGINAL TICKETED BOOKING CODE FARE -
            DUE TO BOOKING CODE NOT AVAILABLE OR ORIGINAL
            FARE NO LONGER QUALIFIES DUE TO RULE
            RESTRICTIONS -
            FULL VALUE OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET MAY BE
            APPLIED TOWARDS NEW TICKET OF EQUAL OR HIGHER
            BOOKING CODE QUALIFYING FARE -
            USING FARES IN EFFECT ON THE ORIGINAL
            TICKET ISSUE DATE.
          --
            RECALCULATION TO LOWER BOOKIG CODE IS NOT
            PERMITTED.
          --
            FARE IS RECALCULATED FROM POINT OF ORIGIN /
            ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARE / TAXES AND CHANGE
            FEE CONTAINED WITHIN THIS RULE WILL BE
            APPLICABLE AT TIME OF CHANGE / REISSUE.
          --
          REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
          --
          1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON / CHANGE TO
          FARE BREAK POINT PERMITTED
          2. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE
          QUALIFYING FARE
          3. ALL BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
          4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE
          TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
          --
          WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN FARE DIFFERENCE
          --
          WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE -
          RESIDUAL VALUE MAY BE USED TOWARD CHANGE FEE
          --
          WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN HIGHER FARE
          CHARGE FULL CHANGE FEE
          ADD COLLECT FARE DIFFERENCE - IF APPLICABLE
          --
          B.  EMERGENCY PROVISION
          --
          WAIVED FOR ILLNESS/INJURY OF PASSENGER OR
          ACCOMPANYING PASSENGER.
          WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER / ACCOMPANYING
          PASSENGER OR IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER NOT
          TRAVELING TOGETHER.
          WAIVER FOR ILLNESS/INJURY OR DEATH MUST BE
          SUBSTANTIATED BY A VALID MEDICAL OR DEATH
          CERTIFICATE.
HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS	         NOTE -
          ROUTING FARES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HIP CHECKS
TICKET ENDORSEMENTS	   THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
   - REFUNDABLE/CXLFEE/CHGFEE - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
CHILDREN DISCOUNTS	   CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT
     OF THE FARE.
         TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT APPLIED.
     MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY ADULT PSGR 18
       OR OLDER.
   OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
          CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
              TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT APPLIED.
          MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
            COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
   OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 100
          PERCENT OF THE FARE.
              TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT APPLIED.
          MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
            COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
   OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
          PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS	   NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.
AGENT DISCOUNTS	   NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.
ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS	   NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS	   NO PROVISIONS APPLY.
FARE BY RULE	   NOT APPLICABLE.
GROUPS	   NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.
TOURS	   NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.
VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY	   NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.
DEPOSITS	   NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.
VOLUNTARY CHANGES	   IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
   BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
   CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
   BY THOSE OF NH INTERNATIONAL FARES
   CHARGE CAD 500.00 FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL
   CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY
   AND
     REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
     PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
     1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
     MUST BE DOMESTIC
     2. NH/UA FARES ARE USED
     3. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN
     PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED
     FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF
     4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO
     DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
   WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
   FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND
   ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
   ENDORSEMENTS.
   OR -
   BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
   CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
   BY THOSE OF NH INTERNATIONAL FARES
   CHARGE CAD 450.00 FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL
   CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY
   AND
     ONLY REPRICE USING CURRENTLY TKTD FARE IF RESULTS
     IN VALID SOLUTION
     PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
     1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON/FARE BREAKS
     2. SAME FARE ON 1ST FARE COMPONENT IS USED
     3. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
     MUST BE DOMESTIC
     4. NH/UA FARES ARE USED
     5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN
     PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED
     FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF
     6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
     EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG
     7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
     DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
   WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
   FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND
   ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
   ENDORSEMENTS.
   OR -
   BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
   CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
   BY THOSE OF NH INTERNATIONAL FARES
   CHARGE CAD 450.00 FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL
   CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY
   AND
     REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
     PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
     1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
     2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
     MUST BE DOMESTIC
     3. NH/UA FARES ARE USED
     4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN
     PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED
     FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF
     5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
     TKT
     6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
     7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
     DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
   WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
   FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND
   ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
   ENDORSEMENTS.
   OR -
   AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
   CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
   BY THOSE OF NH INTERNATIONAL FARES
   CHARGE CAD 450.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
   COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
     ONLY REPRICE USING CURRENTLY TKTD FARE IF RESULTS
     IN VALID SOLUTION
     PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
     1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON/FARE BREAKS
     2. SAME FARE ON 1ST FARE COMPONENT IS USED
     3. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
     MUST BE DOMESTIC
     4. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
     5. NH/UA FARES ARE USED
     6. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN
     PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED
     FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF
     7. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
     EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG
     8. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
     DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
   WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
   FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND
   ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
   ENDORSEMENTS.
   OR -
   AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
   CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
   BY THOSE OF NH INTERNATIONAL FARES
   CHARGE CAD 450.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
   COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
     REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
     PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
     1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
     2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
     MUST BE DOMESTIC
     3. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
     4. NH/UA FARES ARE USED
     5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN
     PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED
     FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF
     6. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
     TKT
     7. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
     8. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
     DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
   WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
   FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND
   ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
   ENDORSEMENTS.
.
VOLUNTARY REFUNDS	   CHECK CATEGORY 16 OR CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
NEGOTIATED FARES	   NOT APPLICABLE.
INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION	   NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
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Old Apr 7, 15, 1:22 pm
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Excellent find! Almost the same price as an upgradable W or V fare in USD. I didn't catch it in the rules, but is there a stated expiry for this fare, or it runs end of schedule at this point?

For us USA folks, this is about 1,900USD...amazing fare with stopover options

Last edited by bocastephen; Apr 7, 15 at 1:36 pm
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Old Apr 7, 15, 1:26 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen View Post
Excellent find! Almost the same price as an upgradable W or V fare in USD. I didn't catch it in the rules, but is there a stated expiry for this fare, or it runs end of schedule at this point?
I only see "SEASONALITY PERMITTED 01JAN THROUGH 31DEC ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR."
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Old Apr 7, 15, 1:48 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen View Post
Excellent find! Almost the same price as an upgradable W or V fare in USD. I didn't catch it in the rules, but is there a stated expiry for this fare, or it runs end of schedule at this point?

For us USA folks, this is about 1,900USD...amazing fare with stopover options
The fares quoted here should be in USD already. The ANA at $2300 above is showing as $2930 CAD on Google flights Canada (connecting in HND, and angled seats both ways, bleh)
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Old Apr 7, 15, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by crimsona View Post
The fares quoted here should be in USD already. The ANA at $2300 above is showing as $2930 CAD on Google flights Canada (connecting in HND, and angled seats both ways, bleh)
Angled seats? And I'm out!
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Old Apr 7, 15, 2:17 pm
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Originally Posted by MarylandFlyer244 View Post
Angled seats? And I'm out!
Not even angled seats, they're just recliner seats.

http://www.ana.co.jp/wws/japan/e/asw...siness_cradle/
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Old Apr 7, 15, 2:21 pm
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You don't have to fly on ANA's 787. If you wish to avoid the angle flat seats, fly YVR-SFO or YVR-DEN and then to Singapore on UA from there.

Price on either come to about $2900 CDN or $2300 USD. A good deal. I found plenty of availability on many routes in the summer. Didn't show up on ITA Matrix, but easily shows up on United.com
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Old Apr 7, 15, 2:21 pm
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Originally Posted by chocobill View Post
Not even angled seats, they're just recliner seats.

http://www.ana.co.jp/wws/japan/e/asw...siness_cradle/
Geeze, for a new plane they sure chose a terrible product! It's as if this plane was supposed to be for regional flights or something, not long-haul like YVR-NRT/HND.
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Old Apr 7, 15, 2:21 pm
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Originally Posted by chocobill View Post
Not even angled seats, they're just recliner seats.

http://www.ana.co.jp/wws/japan/e/asw...siness_cradle/
And they are terrible seats. Not worth it.
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Old Apr 7, 15, 2:26 pm
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You can easily build a routing on ANA via SEA with AC prop connections from/to YVR. Ex-SEA you're on the ANA 787 with beautiful lie-flat seats.

In fact for those living in the Seattle area, you just need to start your trip in YVR (just take a bus or rental car one way) and the routing has a stopover in SEA on the way back where you will need to clear US immigration/customs anyway and claim your bag - after which just leave the airport, no need to continue to YVR.
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