YVR-SIN $2468 on United
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YVR-SIN $2468 on United
Why this business "P" fare to SIN is so much cheaper from YVR than SEA I do not understand--$2468 v. $4972.
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Per the fare rules, it should allow transpacific travel on UA marketed, NH operated flights.
Interesting that the fare rules also explicitly disallow NH-marketed, BR/SQ/TG-operated flights on some intra-Asia flights.
Interesting that the fare rules also explicitly disallow NH-marketed, BR/SQ/TG-operated flights on some intra-Asia flights.
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Fare rules as below (this is the NH fare):
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RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. PACIFIC ROUND TRIP UPPER CABIN SAVER FARES APPLICATION AREA THESE FARES APPLY BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3. CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION THIS RULE GOVERNS ROUND-TRIP FARES. FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS. CAPACITY LIMITATIONS THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS, WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST JUDGEMENT. ELIGIBILITY NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY. DAY/TIME PERMITTED SUN THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR. SEASONALITY PERMITTED 01JAN THROUGH 31DEC ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF ORIGIN. FLIGHT APPLICATION THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY NH ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY NQ. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN TYO/OSA AND BKK/SIN THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY BR ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY SQ ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY TG. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN TYO/OSA AND TPE THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY BR ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY SQ ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY TG. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN TYO/OSA AND JKT/DPS THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY GA. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN TYO/OSA AND MNL/CEB THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY PR. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN UNITED STATES THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AC FLIGHT. ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE. MINIMUM STAY NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY. MAXIMUM STAY TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 6 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN. STOPOVERS 2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH DIRECTION AT CAD 100.00 EACH NONE IN GUAM IN AREA 3 CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. TRANSFERS 6 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION. 1 PERMITTED IN CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION 2 PERMITTED IN UNITED STATES IN EACH DIRECTION 3 PERMITTED IN AREA 3 IN EACH DIRECTION. FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. COMBINATIONS END-ON-END PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA POINT OF COMBINATION. OPEN JAWS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT. PROVIDED - WHEN THE OPEN SEGMENT OCCURS -BETWEEN AREA 2 AND AREA 3 -WITHIN AREA 1 OR WITHIN AREA 3 COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER UA/NH/AC/LH/LX/OS OR FOR CARRIER SN IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF. ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER UA/NH/ AC/LH/LX/OS OR FOR CARRIER SN IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF. NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME POINT - NYC-EWR BLACKOUT DATES NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY. SURCHARGES NO SURCHARGE REQUIREMENTS APPLY. ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED. TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY. SALES RESTRICTIONS FOOTNOTE RULE TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 30APR15. FARE RULE TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF NH OR UA. PENALTIES NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. -- COMBINATION OF NON-REFUNDABLE / REFUNDABLE WITH A CANCELLATION PENALTY / FULLY REFUNDABLE - THE MOST RESTRICTIVE CANCELLATION PENALTY RULE APPLIES TO THE ENTIRE PRICING UNIT- -- CANCELLATIONS BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE CAD 500.00 FOR CANCEL/NO-SHOW/REFUND. WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. -- APPLY CAT 19 PROVISIONS FOR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT // INFANT WITH A SEAT // CHILD -- A. EXCHANGE - WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET / CHANGE TO 1ST TICKETED FLIGHT COUPON - -- FULL VALUE OF WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET PRICED AT CURRENT FARE LEVELS UPON PAYMENT OF THE CANCEL PENALTY CONTAINED WITHIN THIS RULE AND DIFFERENCE IN FARE/TAX/FEES/SURCHARGES COLLECTED/REFUNDED AT TIME OF EXCHANGE. -- WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET / CHANGE TO 1ST TICKETED FLIGHT COUPON -- REPRICE USING CURRENT QUALIFYING FARES -- CHARGE ONLY ONE FEE THE HIGHEST FEE OF ONLY CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS -- 1. ADVANCE RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 2. NH FARES ARE USED -- WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN FARE DIFFERNCE -- -- WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE - RESIDUAL VALUE MAY BE APPLIED TOWARD CANCEL PENALTY -- WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN HIGHER FARE - CHARGE FULL CANCEL PENALTY ADD COLLECT FARE DIFFERENCE IF APPLICABLE -- -- B. EMERGENCY PROVISION -- WAIVED FOR ILLNESS/INJURY OF PASSENGER OR ACCOMPANYING PASSENGER. WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER / ACCOMPANYING PASSENGER OR IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER NOT TRAVELING TOGETHER. WAIVER FOR ILLNESS/INJURY OR DEATH MUST BE SUBSTANTIATED BY A VALID MEDICAL OR DEATH CERTIFICATE. -- AFTER DEPARTURE CHARGE CAD 500.00 FOR CANCEL/NO-SHOW/REFUND. WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. -- APPLY CAT 19 PROVISIONS FOR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT // INFANT WITH A SEAT // CHILD -- CALCULATE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FARE PAID AND QUALIFYING FARE FOR TRAVEL COMPLETE / USING FARES OF ORIGINAL TICKET DATE / LESS CANCEL PENALTY / REFUND RESIDUAL VALUE IF ANY TO ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT. CHANGES ANY TIME CHARGE CAD 450.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION. WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. -- APPLY CAT 19 PROVISIONS FOR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT // INFANT WITH A SEAT // CHILD -- A. CHANGE MADE TO OTHER THAN THE FIRST TICKETED FLIGHT COUPON -- CHARGE ONLY ONE CHANGE FEE THE HIGHEST FEE OF ONLY THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS. -- TICKET RESERVATIONS NOT BEING USED ARE TO BE CANCELLED PRIOR TO ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT. RETURN RESERVATIONS MAYBE SCHEDULED ANYTIME WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY. TICKET MUST BE REISSUED AT SAME TIME WHEN VOLUNTARY CHANGE IS CONFIRMED. -- IF CHANGES ARE MADE TO OTHER THAN THE FIRST TICKETED FLIGHT / THE FARE LEVELS IN EFFECT AT TIME OF ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE WILL APPLY PROVIDED THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR ALL THE PROVISIONS OF THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED BOOKING CODE FARE BASIS CODE / IGNORING ADVANCE RESERVATION OR TICKETING REQUIREMENTS. -- CHARGE ONLY ONE CHANGE FEE THE HIGHEST FEE OF ONLY THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS. -- REPRICE USING CURRENTLY TKTD FARE SAME BOOKING CODE / KEEP THE FARE SAME FARE BASIS CODE -- PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET - -- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON/ NO CHNAGE TO FARE BREAKS 2. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET IGNORING ADV RES/TKT 3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT -- KEEP THE FARE / EVEN REISSUE CHARGE CHANGE FEE -- OR -- IF THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED BOOKING CODE FARE - BUT RESULTS IN FARE DIFFERENCE DUE TO SEASONALITY / DAY OF WEEK TRAVEL / CHANGE TO FARE BREAK POINTS -- HISTORICAL FARES / REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TICKET WAS ISSUED PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET -- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON / CHANGE TO FARE BREAK POINT PERMITTED 2. ALL BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT -- WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN FARE DIFFERENCE -- WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE - RESIDUAL VALUE MAY BE USED TOWARD CHANGE FEE -- WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN HIGHER FARE CHARGE FULL CHANGE FEE ADD COLLECT FARE DIFFERENCE - IF APPLICABLE -- OR -- IF CHANGE BY THE PASSENGER NO LONGER QUALIFY FOR THE ORIGINAL TICKETED BOOKING CODE FARE - DUE TO BOOKING CODE NOT AVAILABLE OR ORIGINAL FARE NO LONGER QUALIFIES DUE TO RULE RESTRICTIONS - FULL VALUE OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS NEW TICKET OF EQUAL OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE QUALIFYING FARE - USING FARES IN EFFECT ON THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE DATE. -- RECALCULATION TO LOWER BOOKIG CODE IS NOT PERMITTED. -- FARE IS RECALCULATED FROM POINT OF ORIGIN / ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARE / TAXES AND CHANGE FEE CONTAINED WITHIN THIS RULE WILL BE APPLICABLE AT TIME OF CHANGE / REISSUE. -- REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED -- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON / CHANGE TO FARE BREAK POINT PERMITTED 2. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE QUALIFYING FARE 3. ALL BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT -- WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN FARE DIFFERENCE -- WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE - RESIDUAL VALUE MAY BE USED TOWARD CHANGE FEE -- WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN HIGHER FARE CHARGE FULL CHANGE FEE ADD COLLECT FARE DIFFERENCE - IF APPLICABLE -- B. EMERGENCY PROVISION -- WAIVED FOR ILLNESS/INJURY OF PASSENGER OR ACCOMPANYING PASSENGER. WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER / ACCOMPANYING PASSENGER OR IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER NOT TRAVELING TOGETHER. WAIVER FOR ILLNESS/INJURY OR DEATH MUST BE SUBSTANTIATED BY A VALID MEDICAL OR DEATH CERTIFICATE. HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS NOTE - ROUTING FARES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HIP CHECKS TICKET ENDORSEMENTS THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - REFUNDABLE/CXLFEE/CHGFEE - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX. CHILDREN DISCOUNTS CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT APPLIED. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER. OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT APPLIED. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER. OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT APPLIED. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER. OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS. AGENT DISCOUNTS NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS. ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS. MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS NO PROVISIONS APPLY. FARE BY RULE NOT APPLICABLE. GROUPS NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY. TOURS NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY. VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY. DEPOSITS NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY. VOLUNTARY CHANGES IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF NH INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE CAD 500.00 FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. NH/UA FARES ARE USED 3. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF NH INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE CAD 450.00 FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY AND ONLY REPRICE USING CURRENTLY TKTD FARE IF RESULTS IN VALID SOLUTION PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON/FARE BREAKS 2. SAME FARE ON 1ST FARE COMPONENT IS USED 3. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 4. NH/UA FARES ARE USED 5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF NH INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE CAD 450.00 FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. NH/UA FARES ARE USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF NH INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE CAD 450.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY AND ONLY REPRICE USING CURRENTLY TKTD FARE IF RESULTS IN VALID SOLUTION PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON/FARE BREAKS 2. SAME FARE ON 1ST FARE COMPONENT IS USED 3. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 4. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 5. NH/UA FARES ARE USED 6. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 7. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG 8. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF NH INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE CAD 450.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 4. NH/UA FARES ARE USED 5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 6. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 7. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 8. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. . VOLUNTARY REFUNDS CHECK CATEGORY 16 OR CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS. NEGOTIATED FARES NOT APPLICABLE. INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE .
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Excellent find! Almost the same price as an upgradable W or V fare in USD. I didn't catch it in the rules, but is there a stated expiry for this fare, or it runs end of schedule at this point?
For us USA folks, this is about 1,900USD...amazing fare with stopover options
For us USA folks, this is about 1,900USD...amazing fare with stopover options
Last edited by bocastephen; Apr 7, 2015 at 1:36 pm
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I only see "SEASONALITY PERMITTED 01JAN THROUGH 31DEC ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR."
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Excellent find! Almost the same price as an upgradable W or V fare in USD. I didn't catch it in the rules, but is there a stated expiry for this fare, or it runs end of schedule at this point?
For us USA folks, this is about 1,900USD...amazing fare with stopover options
For us USA folks, this is about 1,900USD...amazing fare with stopover options
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Not even angled seats, they're just recliner seats.
http://www.ana.co.jp/wws/japan/e/asw...siness_cradle/
http://www.ana.co.jp/wws/japan/e/asw...siness_cradle/
#12
You don't have to fly on ANA's 787. If you wish to avoid the angle flat seats, fly YVR-SFO or YVR-DEN and then to Singapore on UA from there.
Price on either come to about $2900 CDN or $2300 USD. A good deal. I found plenty of availability on many routes in the summer. Didn't show up on ITA Matrix, but easily shows up on United.com
Price on either come to about $2900 CDN or $2300 USD. A good deal. I found plenty of availability on many routes in the summer. Didn't show up on ITA Matrix, but easily shows up on United.com
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Not even angled seats, they're just recliner seats.
http://www.ana.co.jp/wws/japan/e/asw...siness_cradle/
http://www.ana.co.jp/wws/japan/e/asw...siness_cradle/
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Not even angled seats, they're just recliner seats.
http://www.ana.co.jp/wws/japan/e/asw...siness_cradle/
http://www.ana.co.jp/wws/japan/e/asw...siness_cradle/
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You can easily build a routing on ANA via SEA with AC prop connections from/to YVR. Ex-SEA you're on the ANA 787 with beautiful lie-flat seats.
In fact for those living in the Seattle area, you just need to start your trip in YVR (just take a bus or rental car one way) and the routing has a stopover in SEA on the way back where you will need to clear US immigration/customs anyway and claim your bag - after which just leave the airport, no need to continue to YVR.
In fact for those living in the Seattle area, you just need to start your trip in YVR (just take a bus or rental car one way) and the routing has a stopover in SEA on the way back where you will need to clear US immigration/customs anyway and claim your bag - after which just leave the airport, no need to continue to YVR.