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Fare feels too good to be true? Don't call the airline!
Double-check that the fare is actually in Business or First as some online search engines or OTAs confuse booking classes on some airlines.
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The deeply discounted international fares discussed here are almost always specific to a certain point of origin, and only very rarely work in reverse (e.g. a SFO-LHR-SFO fare usually won't work LHR-SFO-LHR). Domestic fares more commonly work in reverse.
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Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where fares on EI (Aer Lingus) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Aer Lingus does not offer first class. If you see this fare, please ignore it and do not post it here as it is completely unbookable in every sense of the term. The mods are summarily deleting these posts in order to unclutter the thread.

Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where Z fares on EY (Etihad) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Z fares are discount business on EY. These fares will not receive chaffeur service. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/etihad-airways-etihad-guest/1622229-removal-chauffeur-service-some-business-class-passengers.html

List of known, active deals:

JNB-DXB-SFO in EK F, $4k-ish one-way
MLE-HKG-US (various) in C, $1400 +/- available only on CX's website.
CMB-MIA, other US cities, for about $4400 in F, round-trip/return

BA AARP $400 discount for J/F bookings is now valid again for booking until 31 Oct 2014 but departure to EOS seems to get the discount. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1435816-ba-fare-discounts-aarp-4.html

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Feb 10, 2014, 1:57 pm

#541

exbayern

Join Date: Sep 2006

Posts: 6,967

Re my post about LH C fares and my inability to book them, AF has their quite frequent C sale now posted ex-Canada. They can be useful as they include a free stopover in Paris

from $2899 R/T taxes incl.
Travel season from December 1, 2013 to August 31, 2014. Departure from Montreal, Ottawa and Toronto
Terms and Conditions
Minimum stay: 8 days
Maximum stay: 12 months
Changes: 450 CAD
Advance purchase: 50 days
Refund fee: not refundable
1 free stop over in Paris
Weekend surcharge: $250 each way

Feb 10, 2014, 2:02 pm

#542

tc fly girl

Join Date: Sep 2000

Location: Michigan

Programs: Delta Diamond, AA Exec Plat, UA 1K, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond

Posts: 624

Nice price for Business Class, thanks for sharing. Doesn't look like EQMs are earned on DL however.

Feb 10, 2014, 2:09 pm

#543

cliburn

Join Date: Nov 2000

Location: Minnetonka, MN, USA

Programs: DL Diamond 2MM, AA ExPlt

Posts: 939

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowgie

LAX-EZE for $1601 rt in biz class on AM.
Connects in MEX. Books into "I". Found on ITA and looks wide open until Nov 23.

Does I class earn on Delta?.... It looks like a low business bucket and I dont see it on Delta's EM earnings chart.

Feb 10, 2014, 2:09 pm

#544

Yi Yang

Join Date: Oct 2012

Location: CTU,BOS,NYC,LAX,HKG,AUH,DXB

Programs: HU G, 3U G, CZ G, UA 1K, Marriott Titanium, AA EXP, DL Plat, IHG SRA, TK G, Hilton G

Posts: 107

Quote:

Originally Posted by cesco.g

What class of service: C or F ?

NO F on MS

Feb 10, 2014, 2:16 pm

#545

izzik

Join Date: Aug 2001

Posts: 9,694

I fare class doesn't earn anything with Aeromexico's own program.. prob a sign.

http://clubpremier.com/us/earn-kilom...arn-kilometers

Feb 10, 2014, 2:19 pm

#546

cliburn

Join Date: Nov 2000

Location: Minnetonka, MN, USA

Programs: DL Diamond 2MM, AA ExPlt

Posts: 939

Quote:

Originally Posted by izzik

I fare class doesn't earn anything with Aeromexico's own program.. prob a sign.

http://clubpremier.com/us/earn-kilom...arn-kilometers

Thanks that certainly clarifies it.

Feb 10, 2014, 2:24 pm

#547

mahasamatman

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Join Date: Apr 2004

Location: GVA (Greater Vancouver Area)

Programs: DREAD Gold; UA 1.035MM; Bonvoy Au-197; PCC Elite+; CCC Elite+; MSC C-12; CWC Au-197; WoH Dis

Posts: 52,150

Quote:

Originally Posted by hirohito888

UA has also dropped fares to $1,910 on certain dates (Apr 10-18).

And some options on AM for $1,602. (Not mileage-earning, however.)

Feb 10, 2014, 3:49 pm

#548

TmoneyAA

Join Date: Aug 2013

Programs: AA, SPG

Posts: 8

Surprising P First Class Fare LGA-MSP $586

Found a suprising full fare 1st class ticket from New York (LGA) to Minneapolis (MSP) in early march for $586 on American Airlines

Dates:
March 4: AA Flight 3349 6:30pm-8:25pm
March 5: AA Flight 3616 2:35pm-6:15pm

Similiar nonstop COACH flights on United and Delta = ~$820

Not the best for mileage running, but if you are looking to get to MSP from NYC on a full fare first, not a bad option!

Feb 10, 2014, 3:57 pm

#549

6P&E

Join Date: Aug 2009

Location: BNA and TPA

Programs: AA-EXP, UA, WN, DL- zilch by choice, IHG-Diamond, Marriott-Gold, Hilton Gold,

Posts: 567

Surprising P First Class Fare LGA-MSP $586

Check the fare rules. Good fares like these in 1st are often non refundable. They may allow a change with no penalty, but individual routings may vary. Otherwise, it's a good way to sit up front with a confirmed seat.

Feb 10, 2014, 4:04 pm

#550

Spiff

Moderator: Coupon Connection & S.P.A.M

Join Date: May 2000

Location: Louisville, KY

Programs: Destination Unknown, TSA Disparager Diamond (LTDD)

Posts: 57,955

P and A are not full fare first classes on AA. F is full fare first.

Feb 10, 2014, 4:07 pm

#551

pantanal

Join Date: Mar 2012

Location: world

Programs: all

Posts: 1,422

I believe AM flies the older planes with the older business class on that route

Mex-Gru, they fly the new business cass

Feb 10, 2014, 5:15 pm

#552

3544quebec

Join Date: May 1998

Location: australia

Posts: 5,762

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Harders

Just booked this for $1913 USD outbound May 31 return June 7. LAX-JFK-EZE I fare.

You can also get a domestic add-on in Argentine on LAN (coach) for the same price but no stopover in BUE according to the fare rules:

Los Angeles (LAX) to Iguazu (IGR) - Wed, Apr 9
American Airlines Inc. Los Angeles (LAX) to Miami (MIA) - Wed, Apr 9
American Airlines Inc. 200 Dep: 7:30AM Arr: 3:25PM 4h 55m Boeing 757 First (A)
Layover in MIA 5h 10m

American Airlines Inc. Miami (MIA) to Buenos Aires (EZE) - Wed, Apr 9
American Airlines Inc. 909 Dep: 8:35PM Arr: 6:25AM 8h 50m Boeing 777 Business (I)
Layover in EZE Thu, Apr 10 2h 40m
This flight contains airport changes

LAN Airlines Buenos Aires (AEP) to Iguazu (IGR) - Thu, Apr 10
LAN Airlines 4022 Dep: 9:05AM Arr: 10:55AM 1h 50m Airbus A320 Economy (Y)
OPERATED BY LANARGENTINA

Iguazu (IGR) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Fri, Apr 18
LAN Airlines Iguazu (IGR) to Buenos Aires (AEP) - Fri, Apr 18
LAN Airlines 4027 Dep: 2:10PM Arr: 4:05PM 1h 55m Airbus A320 Economy (Y)
OPERATED BY LANARGENTINA Layover in AEP 5h 55m
This flight contains airport changes

American Airlines Inc. Buenos Aires (EZE) to Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) - Fri, Apr 18
American Airlines Inc. 996 Dep: 10:00PM Arr: 6:50AM 10h 50m Boeing 777 Business (I)
Layover in DFW Sat, Apr 19 2h 25m

American Airlines Inc. Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Sat, Apr 19
American Airlines Inc. 2419 Dep: 9:15AM Arr: 10:35AM 3h 20m Boeing 737 First (A)

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $1,918.62
Total cost for 1 passenger $1,918.62

Feb 10, 2014, 5:25 pm

#553

ianmanka

Join Date: Dec 2010

Location: LAX/VNY (Hometown: CAK)

Programs: Hyatt Explorist, IHG Platinum, Bonvoy Gold, Regal Diamond

Posts: 743

"I" earns 50% on AS... which claims it's an "Economy Class Cabin."

Feb 10, 2014, 6:20 pm

#554

18sas

Join Date: Jan 2008

Location: KATL

Programs: DL DM/2MM

Posts: 2,034

Quote:

Originally Posted by windycityf

Seeing lots of availability on Matrix for $2300-$2400 on Star Alliance all summer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieuwer2

I think this is until end-of-schedule?

PNC2S
BUSINESS CLASS ADVANCE PURCHASE FARES P
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 02JUL 14

Edit to add: BINGO! Also from Boston, $2400 ai.

Not seeing these on Matrix. Also, unless I'm missing something the PNC2S fare ORD<>BCN/MAD is $2410 before taxes and YQ. All in price is closer to $3200.

Feb 10, 2014, 9:00 pm

#555

jfkeze

Join Date: Mar 2008

Location: Multiple locations

Programs: AAdvantage ExPlat LT Gold, BA Silver, Aegean Star Gold

Posts: 5,038

To make it to AEP from EZE and go though immigration and customs, grab a cab, clear security in AEP and board the flight... all in under 2:40 might require a miracle hehe

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3544quebec