Jan 4, 2014, 10:43 pm
Last edit by: skunker
- Fare feels too good to be true? Don't call the airline!
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- The deeply discounted international fares discussed here are almost always specific to a certain point of origin, and only very rarely work in reverse (e.g. a SFO-LHR-SFO fare usually won't work LHR-SFO-LHR). Domestic fares more commonly work in reverse.
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Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where fares on EI (Aer Lingus) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Aer Lingus does not offer first class. If you see this fare, please ignore it and do not post it here as it is completely unbookable in every sense of the term. The mods are summarily deleting these posts in order to unclutter the thread.
Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where Z fares on EY (Etihad) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Z fares are discount business on EY. These fares will not receive chaffeur service. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/etihad-airways-etihad-guest/1622229-removal-chauffeur-service-some-business-class-passengers.html
List of known, active deals:
JNB-DXB-SFO in EK F, $4k-ish one-way
MLE-HKG-US (various) in C, $1400 +/- available only on CX's website.
CMB-MIA, other US cities, for about $4400 in F, round-trip/return
BA AARP $400 discount for J/F bookings is now valid again for booking until 31 Oct 2014 but departure to EOS seems to get the discount. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1435816-ba-fare-discounts-aarp-4.html
Good Deal Premium Fares 2014
Jun 22, 2014, 12:03 pm
#1816
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Jun 22, 2014, 12:23 pm
#1817
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Jun 22, 2014, 12:58 pm
#1818
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Jun 22, 2014, 3:41 pm
#1819
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I tried the IATA Matirx, the AC website and then Hipmunk to look for fares in February. I was able to find the flights I wanted on Hipmunk (all *A, YYZ-LHR-JNB-CPT on AC and SA). Click to buy and it takes you to the AC website. Problem is that sometimes it does not and wants to link to Priceline or Travelocity. I went with one that linked to AC. Not sure if I would have had any problems getting AE points or not if I bought through another site.
Jun 22, 2014, 7:40 pm
#1820
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Jun 23, 2014, 3:56 am
#1821
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Jun 23, 2014, 9:18 am
#1822
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Location: EWR, NJ
Programs: UA 2 MM, UA 1K
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Jun 23, 2014, 1:45 pm
#1823
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: DCA
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Dunno if this is worth a mention here, but there are weird things going on with US paid F pricing into IAD next week. Specifically, fully flexible fares are pricing out significantly cheaper than non-refundable.
Examples:
Thurs 7/3 US 646 ANC-PHX, US 720 PHX-CLT, US 2852 CLT-IAD. Prices as $1913 non-refundable, $902 flexible.
Friday 7/4: Multiple LAX-CLT-IAD routings pricing out at $1400-$1800 non-refundable, $830 flexible.
Realize that this is the July 4 weekend, so maybe bad example, but same thing showing up for many dates.
Haven't really dug into this - no fares on the "steal" level of low prices, but if for some reason someone out there is looking for paid F to IAD, using oddball connecting routes...
EDIT: This appears to be working outbound from IAD as well, and far into the future. ITA supports this. I have not tried to purchase, nor am I really aware of a reason why one would want to purchase. I cannot verify whether these would actually go through as flexible or not.
Examples:
Thurs 7/3 US 646 ANC-PHX, US 720 PHX-CLT, US 2852 CLT-IAD. Prices as $1913 non-refundable, $902 flexible.
Friday 7/4: Multiple LAX-CLT-IAD routings pricing out at $1400-$1800 non-refundable, $830 flexible.
Realize that this is the July 4 weekend, so maybe bad example, but same thing showing up for many dates.
Haven't really dug into this - no fares on the "steal" level of low prices, but if for some reason someone out there is looking for paid F to IAD, using oddball connecting routes...
EDIT: This appears to be working outbound from IAD as well, and far into the future. ITA supports this. I have not tried to purchase, nor am I really aware of a reason why one would want to purchase. I cannot verify whether these would actually go through as flexible or not.
Last edited by arlflyer; Jun 23, 2014 at 1:54 pm
Jun 23, 2014, 1:56 pm
#1824
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Dunno if this is worth a mention here, but there are weird things going on with US paid F pricing into IAD next week. Specifically, fully flexible fares are pricing out significantly cheaper than non-refundable.
Examples:
Thurs 7/3 US 646 ANC-PHX, US 720 PHX-CLT, US 2852 CLT-IAD. Prices as $1913 non-refundable, $902 flexible.
Friday 7/4: Multiple LAX-CLT-IAD routings pricing out at $1400-$1800 non-refundable, $830 flexible.
Realize that this is the July 4 weekend, so maybe bad example, but same thing showing up for many dates.
Haven't really dug into this - no fares on the "steal" level of low prices, but if for some reason someone out there is looking for paid F to IAD, using oddball connecting routes...
EDIT: This appears to be working outbound from IAD as well, and far into the future. ITA supports this. I have not tried to purchase, nor am I really aware of a reason why one would want to purchase. I cannot verify whether these would actually go through as flexible or not.
Examples:
Thurs 7/3 US 646 ANC-PHX, US 720 PHX-CLT, US 2852 CLT-IAD. Prices as $1913 non-refundable, $902 flexible.
Friday 7/4: Multiple LAX-CLT-IAD routings pricing out at $1400-$1800 non-refundable, $830 flexible.
Realize that this is the July 4 weekend, so maybe bad example, but same thing showing up for many dates.
Haven't really dug into this - no fares on the "steal" level of low prices, but if for some reason someone out there is looking for paid F to IAD, using oddball connecting routes...
EDIT: This appears to be working outbound from IAD as well, and far into the future. ITA supports this. I have not tried to purchase, nor am I really aware of a reason why one would want to purchase. I cannot verify whether these would actually go through as flexible or not.
SMF-DFW-CLT-RDU $1000 flexible, $1900 nonrefundable, July 4th
Jun 23, 2014, 2:03 pm
#1825
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: DCA
Posts: 7,769
From what I am seeing you can get a flexible roundtrip in F between anywhere on the west coast and IAD for about $1600, or ANC and IAD for about $1800, on a whole bunch of dates, if this actually sells.
Jun 23, 2014, 6:55 pm
#1826
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Jun 24, 2014, 5:46 am
#1827
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NRT-SIN J r/t, 3 night stay, $816 bookable on hipmunk. ANA going, MU coming back. Wide open in September
Jun 24, 2014, 7:36 am
#1828
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Location: Sweden
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I checked Tokyo Narita (NRT) - Singapore (SIN) return ticket in Business class (J), ANA (NH) outbound and China Eastern (MU) homebound, minimum 3 nights stay in September 2014, on Hipmunk.com
Jun 24, 2014, 9:22 am
#1829
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I found it at the very first attempt!
EDIT: It turns that the "ANA" flights are actually on Scoot (TZ201, with a stop in Taipei en-route) when you go through to Expedia to book - which I presume will have a big impact on mileage earning potential!!!
Last edited by irishguy28; Jun 24, 2014 at 9:39 am
Jun 24, 2014, 9:44 am
#1830
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NRT-SIN J r/t, 3 night stay, $816 bookable on hipmunk. ANA going, MU coming back. Wide open in September
Be careful with Scoot Business class its really just Y+
Be careful with Scoot Business class its really just Y+