Rep. Jason Chaffetz harassed by the TSA
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Openness is the only guarantee of freedom. Without accountability, the people that have the power are able to abuse that power. This why before due process, search and seizure, the right to vote, there is the amendment that guarantees the freedom of speech.
When I interact with the government, I ask for the name of the person I am dealing with. Anyone who does not give it, is clearly up to no good and seeking to hide their actions from the public.
When I interact with the government, I ask for the name of the person I am dealing with. Anyone who does not give it, is clearly up to no good and seeking to hide their actions from the public.
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Absolutely. But if he were to be honest about where he works, he'd at least be faced with the prospect of his supervisors being sent copies of the posts he makes while presenting himself as a representative of the agency.
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DHS/TSA monitors this board, that's been proven in the past. If Ron were to cross the line on something, I don't think the TSA would hesitate to request for identifying information (IP address, for one) of any person spilling the beans on SSI stuff. While I can't say it for certain, that appears to have been done before here on FT.
As for falsehoods and misleading statements, the TSA embraces that as "designed inconsistency." I don't think TSAers would get docked for that, so long as it's in good faith and within the bounds of what they're supposed to do. But if were to reveal SSI or damage the TSA's reputation, then they'll take corrective action, regardless of someone who identifies him or herself here.
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TSA employees should at least provide a badge number from their ID card if asked to do so by anyone. The guy from a city gas company has to do that if asked so why not TSA?
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Wasn't saying that. The question was "why are TSA employees reluctant to give names and badge numbers?" I provided an answer.
TSA employees should at least provide a badge number from their ID card if asked to do so by anyone. The guy from a city gas company has to do that if asked so why not TSA?
TSA employees should at least provide a badge number from their ID card if asked to do so by anyone. The guy from a city gas company has to do that if asked so why not TSA?
Badge numbers are really irrelevant. The TSA logs down who is assigned to which lane at what time. Heck, x-ray operators have to log in every time they leave or start using the machine.
Even a simple physical description coupled with the lane number and time you go through is usually sufficient.
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A reply from some TSA'ers:
http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13420398
1) Play the serviceman card . . . cheap! 
2) Didn't he say the TSO who did the patdown was professional?
3) Wasn't his beef with the supervisor?
Retaliatory secondary is for everyone!
So was it truly random, or was it SOP to give everyone in the strip-search line who refuses to be given a secondary? I love how you are insulting the workforce when you complain about one person.
http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13420398
The Transportation Security officer whom Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz accused of treating him rudely and inappropriately at Salt Lake City International Airport earlier this week was a serviceman recently returned from Iraq who had no idea the person in front of him was a congressman, according to the union representing TSA workers.

2) Didn't he say the TSO who did the patdown was professional?
3) Wasn't his beef with the supervisor?
"Congressman Chaffetz was treated as any other passenger," Sharon Pinnock of the American Federation of Government Employees said in a news release Friday.
Then, the Republican lawmaker says, he was told he was randomly selected for a pat-down search and subsequently had a confrontation with a TSA supervisor who wouldn't identify himself or give him his badge number.
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The unnamed officer, with whom Chaffetz reportedly had a tiff, randomly selected Chaffetz for additional screening, acting in accord with TSA procedures, Pinnock said. Her statement added that "any suggestion otherwise "is an insult to the entire TSA workforce."
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The unnamed officer, with whom Chaffetz reportedly had a tiff, randomly selected Chaffetz for additional screening, acting in accord with TSA procedures, Pinnock said. Her statement added that "any suggestion otherwise "is an insult to the entire TSA workforce."
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Originally Posted by SLTrib.com
"Congressman Chaffetz was treated as any other passenger," Sharon Pinnock of the American Federation of Government Employees said in a news release Friday.
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A reply from some TSA'ers:
http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13420398
1) Play the serviceman card . . . cheap! 
2) Didn't he say the TSO who did the patdown was professional?
3) Wasn't his beef with the supervisor?
Retaliatory secondary is for everyone!
So was it truly random, or was it SOP to give everyone in the strip-search line who refuses to be given a secondary? I love how you are insulting the workforce when you complain about one person.
http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13420398
The Transportation Security officer whom Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz accused of treating him rudely and inappropriately at Salt Lake City International Airport earlier this week was a serviceman recently returned from Iraq who had no idea the person in front of him was a congressman, according to the union representing TSA workers.

2) Didn't he say the TSO who did the patdown was professional?
3) Wasn't his beef with the supervisor?
Retaliatory secondary is for everyone!
So was it truly random, or was it SOP to give everyone in the strip-search line who refuses to be given a secondary? I love how you are insulting the workforce when you complain about one person.
The union representing Transportation Security officers said Friday.....
did i have a bald moment as miss tso's becoming unionized or are they private contractors who happen to belong to a union?
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A reply from some TSA'ers:
http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13420398
1) Play the serviceman card . . . cheap!
2) Didn't he say the TSO who did the patdown was professional?
3) Wasn't his beef with the supervisor?
Retaliatory secondary is for everyone!
So was it truly random, or was it SOP to give everyone in the strip-search line who refuses to be given a secondary? I love how you are insulting the workforce when you complain about one person.
http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13420398
1) Play the serviceman card . . . cheap!

2) Didn't he say the TSO who did the patdown was professional?
3) Wasn't his beef with the supervisor?
Retaliatory secondary is for everyone!
So was it truly random, or was it SOP to give everyone in the strip-search line who refuses to be given a secondary? I love how you are insulting the workforce when you complain about one person.
Chaffetz said he was mainly concerned about the lack of signs that indicated the full-body imaging was optional; something he said TSA officials had promised they would post.
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Pinnock's statement said Chaffetz could have avoided the full-scan line completely and used a lane where traditional metal detectors are used as the primary method of screening at Salt Lake City International Airport.
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Wasn't saying that. The question was "why are TSA employees reluctant to give names and badge numbers?" I provided an answer.
TSA employees should at least provide a badge number from their ID card if asked to do so by anyone. The guy from a city gas company has to do that if asked so why not TSA?
TSA employees should at least provide a badge number from their ID card if asked to do so by anyone. The guy from a city gas company has to do that if asked so why not TSA?
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Ya know, now that I think about it, congresspeople have staff who can easily research the details of the interaction and write a protest to management at TSA. "Do you know who I am" and "what's your name and badge number" are class intimidation moves. If its like the Cambridge professor and its a cop inside your house, that's one thing. But in front of a crowd, it is inciting disrespect by a whole crowd of people. I don't know who this congressman is, but he kind of earned his rebuke. I'm thinking TSA would back their officer. Simply because they don't want to make this kind of encounter more common.
I still maintain that egoistic reactions in the line not only hurt you, but they make things more difficult for those around you because now you have a steaming TSO, and that will affect their treatment of the next n people they check. People could be pulled out of line for enhanced screening just because of the humiliation the TSO is feeling.
Not that I favor the kind of government Bush wanted. I want people to use their brains more and their bullying instincts less. We've had the wrong example from those running our government for too many years, and it has rubbed off on the populace. We're now getting a less belligerent example, and I hope people respond to that.
Here's an idea. Make prepaid postcards freely available at TSA stations. Let people mail in compliments for the officers who model efficiency and good human relations. Give them bonuses or other perks and become the envy of all the TSOs. See what that does. Inculcate a customer service culture.
I still maintain that egoistic reactions in the line not only hurt you, but they make things more difficult for those around you because now you have a steaming TSO, and that will affect their treatment of the next n people they check. People could be pulled out of line for enhanced screening just because of the humiliation the TSO is feeling.
Not that I favor the kind of government Bush wanted. I want people to use their brains more and their bullying instincts less. We've had the wrong example from those running our government for too many years, and it has rubbed off on the populace. We're now getting a less belligerent example, and I hope people respond to that.
Here's an idea. Make prepaid postcards freely available at TSA stations. Let people mail in compliments for the officers who model efficiency and good human relations. Give them bonuses or other perks and become the envy of all the TSOs. See what that does. Inculcate a customer service culture.
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TSA has a web form.
https://contact.tsa.dhs.gov/gotfeedb...tFeedback.aspx
https://contact.tsa.dhs.gov/gotfeedb...tFeedback.aspx

