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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 9:00 am
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Originally Posted by SATTSO
I should also say, just to be honest, I wouldn't give out a section or page number unless I wAs given permission by an authority at TSA. I do not feel I am hiding behind SSI, it's just that I have been instructed not to release info, to which I agreed, and until I find out otherwise, caution seems to be the better part of wisdom.

However, I wil add something about our current SOP. Some of it is in video form. It's absolutely something that can not be in printed form. This last year we went from a written SOP available in a printed binder to all on PowerPoint slides some attached with videos. I do not believe what I am telling you mow is SSI. Hope I am not wrong. I have heard from a reliable source at our airport when he address a small group of us (our FSD) this upcoming year our SOP will be on both the comp and once again printed. Is this true? I think the plans are true as related by our FSD, but when will they carry it out, that I couldn't tell you.
I certainly do not have the skills but I suggest that if TSA keeps SOP on computer then it will not be SSI for long.

Doubly so if TSA's performance of aviation security is as good as their computer security.

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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 10:05 am
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
I certainly do not have the skills but I suggest that if TSA keeps SOP on computer then it will not be SSI for long.

Doubly so if TSA's performance of aviation security is as good as their computer security.
In some form or another SOP has been on the computer since the OLC launched in 2003, yet you have people complaining that TSA keeps it's rules (SOP) secret. So as of yet over 6 years your prediction has not come true.

Note: last year SOP was available only through a computer.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 10:09 am
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On a related note, but not exactly within the current discussion on this thread, I just found out that my name is written out in full on my passport identification page, but my middle names are abbreviated on the Visa (stuck to a page in the same passport).

I already noticed that when I show my passport as ID to TSOs, open on the identification page (which seems logical to me), they like to leaf through it until they get to the visa page (and they still deny this is about catching illegial aliens...).

The question now is, within (il)Legal Flight, what form of my name should I use??

I have a feeling that, no matter what I do, I will have trouble...
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 10:21 am
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Originally Posted by BubbaLoop
I already noticed that when I show my passport as ID to TSOs, open on the identification page (which seems logical to me), they like to leaf through it until they get to the visa page (and they still deny this is about catching illegial aliens...)
Are you traveling on a US passport? TSA is not CBP: they have no reason to look beyond the identification page. The ID checker is only there to match your BP to other ID. (Not defending ID checking, just describing the procedure.)

Using a rubber band or paper clip/clamp to keep the other pages together may discourage invasive shuffling. If not, and you have time, complain to a supervisor and/or fill out a complaint form.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 10:33 am
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In response to an email from AA I checked my name as listed in their records and added my gender and DOB. I use a suffix (III) on both my Drivers License and Passport and the instructions on the Secure Flight section of the AA website stated that you had to either email or call to add that. I called and was told there actually was no field for a suffix in spite of the examples shown in the instructions.

Obviously still trying to work out the bugs on this one.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by YCTTSFM
Are you traveling on a US passport? TSA is not CBP: they have no reason to look beyond the identification page. The ID checker is only there to match your BP to other ID. (Not defending ID checking, just describing the procedure.)

Using a rubber band or paper clip/clamp to keep the other pages together may discourage invasive shuffling. If not, and you have time, complain to a supervisor and/or fill out a complaint form.
Nope, I am not American. The passport is foreign, and has a page with an American visa sticker. All 100% legit, of course.
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