Gee doob, what makes you think I was wrong in my statement? Reading issues? Comprehension?

Ergo, you will not admit your egregious fault, nor apologise (that is the English spelling of the word, before you post some inane spelling retort). Typical. Your attempt at redirecting the discussion will not work.

Why do you have such a hard time addressing direct questions and posts addressed to you? Not only in this thread either; I have addressed several direct questions to you that have been ignored and I have worked with your feckless agency and seen much of your SOP, so my questions are not �out there� nor are the ones posted to you above.

We eagerly await your response!

Ciao,
FH

Perhaps reading comprehension of your own posts? What is so hard about admitting that on two occasions in a span of just two days you made the same mistake about the TSA being directly involved with screening at first LHR and now TLV?

I recognize it thanks. I spent 4 wonderful years over there at the behest of the United States Air Force, and with the permission of her Majesty�s government. Quite the interesting place.

I don�t. I do tend to ignore the more ignorant questions posted, those who answer the questions for themselves or who�s questions I have answered before, but I don�t think it�s a problem.

Feckless? The experience is what you make of it. Its based on your choice, not ours.

That linkage is to a TSA press release that’s over 4 years old.

Ronnie, here's a grammar lesson:

Who's is a contraction of "who is" or "who has"; whose is the possessive form of "who."

The term "feckless" can also be applied to individuals.

And further, it's generated by the TSA itself and we all know how the TSA loves to tout what a fantastic job it is doing to keep us safe.

So all that blaterskite typed with nothing actually said, wow, but the short answer is: you do not have the capability to answer the questions nor admit fault. I see. That is about what I expected, a weak, 7th grade L-D debate style answer where you cannot admit fault, but hopelessly post in other threads that you demand satisfaction when none is due. Typical..., that is why your are where you are now. "Nuff said"

That pretty much answers my question about your character.
I would love to see your examples of questions you view as unacceptable, since all were addressed to the topic at hand, and directly quoted one of your respones. You just want "softballs"?

We eagerly await your mea culpa for yet another mistake in this thread. We shan't hold our breath.

Ciao,
FH

1. I was pointing out the difference between the experience in TLV (that's in Israel) and in EWR (that's in the US). That was my experience. And yes, it is sad for me and for every person who travels in the US. It would be less sad if what I experienced in TLV were common in the US. After your response, though, I understand why it won't change for the better anytime soon.

2. So, TSA partners with foreign governments. How does that improve my experience of going through security?

3. As for the knife in my pocket, this is certainly the favorite tactic of those who have lost an argument: divert attention from the issue at hand, try to drive the discussion to another, unrelated issue. The question is irrelevant to my experience with security in other countries and with the TSA.

And if I don't reply, it's because I'm going out of the country again tomorrow morning.

A lot more sensible than the TSA, that's for sure.

Mike

The survey said that 80-85% of passengers surveyed "had confidence" in TSA. I'll bet anything that 80-85% correlates with the percentage of casual fliers -- the ones who have the, "anything for safety and security," mindset, who neither understand the pointlessness of TSA procedures, nor have any basis of comparison with how other countries conduct security (this thread is about Israel, I've previously contrasted TSA with their counterparts in China).

Of course, TSORon has never responded to any of the factual points that I have raised, preferring instead to say, "Obviously I can never change your mind."

I don't know what you mean by, "partners." I can tell you this: security in China has absolutely nothing to do with TSA. Unlike TSA, it is conducted by professional LEOs, who are professional, polite, helpful, efficient and effective.

I wouldn't know. I don't have knives in my pocket when I go through security screening, though I'm still often treated rudely and like a criminal suspect when it's TSA doing the screening.

Let me ask you a question: How many terrorists has TSA caught? I'm not talking about people with pot, illegal aliens, someone who had a trophy shaped like a rifle, or any similar nonsense. I'm talking about an honest-to-god, dyed-in-the-wool, Allah akbar-shouting fanatic bent on causing injury, death and destruction to as many people as possible.

So, how many has TSA caught?

Ron (or maybe bart, the two are sort of joined at the uniform, in my mind) answered that question not too long ago. Something about their job was to deter terrorists, not catch them. You know, the 20 layers of security thing. Make airport security so confusing that nobody can get through it with their composure intact. If you do, you are suspect.

From Leslie Stahl's 60 Minutes segment on TSA (specifically referencing BDO's):

She missed a good opportunity for a question just as telling. �How many terrorists, once they had seen the TSA in action, have walked away and not even tried?�

It's hubris to think that it has been more than one.