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Originally Posted by ND Sol
(Post 11698879)
The discussion topic was whether the TSA at a screening checkpoint has caught a terrorist in all of its years of existence.
All of the cites you proffered for your point were not terrorists. Now you are trying to shift the subject to decision making at the checkpoint, which is irrelevant to the discussion. Why can't you just admit that the TSA has yet to find a terrorist at a airport screening checkpoint? Was he in fact a terrorist? We will never know. We can guess, we can speculate, we can even investigate and render an official opinion, but we can never know. He tried to bring a bomb onto an aircraft, as far as most of TSA is going to be concerned, and citizens for that matter, he was/is a terrorist. You don’t have to agree, and I suspect you wont, but such is life. |
Originally Posted by TSORon
(Post 11699037)
The point there SOL, was that at the time of the find, he was a terrorist. His reasons, motivations, etc, had no meaning. He was trying to bring an explosive device onto an aircraft.
Was he in fact a terrorist? We will never know. We can guess, we can speculate, we can even investigate and render an official opinion, but we can never know. He tried to bring a bomb onto an aircraft, as far as most of TSA is going to be concerned, and citizens for that matter, he was/is a terrorist. You don’t have to agree, and I suspect you wont, but such is life. |
Originally Posted by TSORon
(Post 11699037)
The point there SOL, was that at the time of the find, he was a terrorist. His reasons, motivations, etc, had no meaning. He was trying to bring an explosive device onto an aircraft.
Was he in fact a terrorist? We will never know. We can guess, we can speculate, we can even investigate and render an official opinion, but we can never know. He tried to bring a bomb onto an aircraft, as far as most of TSA is going to be concerned, and citizens for that matter, he was/is a terrorist. You don’t have to agree, and I suspect you wont, but such is life. Was he in fact a terrorist, we do know he is not one. According to the officials who investigated him and I assume this would have included local law enforcement and FBI. As far as your claims that he is considered a terrorist by the TSA, show me a policy memo that states this. Otherwise you are only speaking for yourself. So again please give us an example where the TSA has stopped an actual terrorist, someone who belongs to terrorist group or follows the beliefs espoused by a terrorist group. |
Originally Posted by LessO2
(Post 11699135)
We can move the goalposts.....
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Originally Posted by magellan315
(Post 11699002)
Then perhaps you could explain why you orginally posted this
Sounds to me like you saying "look we caught a terrorist", you were asked for evidence for a terrorist attack averted by the TSA. Looks like you can't back up what you say. Our DHS at work! http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...sm-dictionary/ Domestic Extremism Lexicon http://video1.washingtontimes.com/video/lexicon.pdf Sounds like Janet pulled this one back before it got wide circulation. |
Originally Posted by halls120
(Post 11696412)
Blaming your former profession for your lack of manners is pathetic.
I was crediting it! |
Originally Posted by Bart
(Post 11700646)
I wasn't blaming my former profession.
I was crediting it! I guess tongue-in-cheek humor is a bit sophisticated for you, eh? |
Originally Posted by Superguy
(Post 11700831)
Why don't you ask other people how they saw it. :rolleyes:
I'm just trying to figure out how your post fits in the ongoing discussion between halls and I about private vs federal screening. |
Originally Posted by Bart
(Post 11700646)
I wasn't blaming my former profession.
I was crediting it! |
Originally Posted by Bart
(Post 11700901)
Well, the way it works is that halls posts something, then I post something, then halls posts something, then I post something, then halls posts something, then I post something. Of course, if you want to join in, please do.
I'm just trying to figure out how your post fits in the ongoing discussion between halls and I about private vs federal screening. |
Originally Posted by magellan315
(Post 11699157)
So again please give us an example where the TSA has stopped an actual terrorist, someone who belongs to terrorist group or follows the beliefs espoused by a terrorist group.
TSOWilliamReed said... Hello again RB Just thought I would clarify something for you. TSA catches terrorists all the time, they just don't go to jail. They are denied access to their flight and sent away from the airport after it has been determined they don't have anything dangerous on them. Terrorists are actually pretty smart. What they do is take all the parts of an IED through security except the explosives. We notice that they are hiding these items and realize why they are doing it. They test our checkpoints but we are not allowed to hold them or arrest them because they aren't doing anything illegal. All we can do is deny them their flight privelages and the TSOC watches their movements for awhile. Also TSA would love to screen cargo. I belive but am not sure that TSI's are doing this at the moment with explosive detection dogs. We just got a team of 3 canines in juneau this year. May 3, 2009 10:58 AM |
Friendly Reminder
Originally Posted by Cholula
(Post 11689286)
Folks, we've had to delete several posts as inflammatory, personal commentary.
Please stick to the topic at hand and refrain from commenting on your fellow FT'ers. Thanks for your cooperation. ______________________ Cholula Travel Safety/Security Forum Moderator |
An Omni TS/S chapter would be nice!
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This thread brought out waaaaay too much bad blood IMO. Mucho posts have been deleted and/or edited.
Rather than suspend a bunch of valuable FT'ers, we'll just send this thread to permanent Locksville. ______________ Cholula TS/S Co-Moderator |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 11701480)
An Omni TS/S chapter would be nice!
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