Americans returing from Cuba
Feb 3, 2009 | 5:06 pm
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The act of purchasing a ticket on a flight that lands in Cuba demonstrates 'spending money' as a percentage of your ticket fee pays for the landing rights for the aircraft at a Cuban airport.
Feb 3, 2009 | 5:46 pm
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The act of purchasing bread at a grocery store demonstrates 'spending money' as a percentage of the money is paid in taxes that support policies which benefit Cuba in trade negotiations with other countries.
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Feb 3, 2009 | 5:52 pm
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You could have a point with airport tax, but not airport tax.
Feb 3, 2009 | 5:55 pm
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I'd add that flying to Cuba proves you have a ticket in you name, not that you bought it yourself, so they'd certainly have to demonstrate money spending even if they took airport tax into account.
Feb 4, 2009 | 9:50 am
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By this line of reasoning, a part of any ticket sold by any airline servicing Cuba is devoted to paying the fuel, some of which is bought in Cuba (for plane going there, but as revenue isn't this individualized...
You could have a point with airport tax, but not airport tax.
You could have a point with airport tax, but not airport tax.
Doesn't affect me anyway - I'm Canadian. I've been to Cuba on holiday. Flew there non-stop from Canada (loved the vacation). I smoke Cuban cigars and legally buy Cuban rum.
My American friends on my cigar forums have told me that, according to the officials they've spoken to, the act of buying a ticket on a plane which touches down in Cuba means you've 'traded with an enemy.'
Feb 4, 2009 | 12:23 pm
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Confirming and expanding on points already made: Treasury imposes these civil penalties on Americans who travel to Cuba without permission. The standard fine is $7500. The standard of evidence is not the same as in a criminal case. Civil fines can be imposed much more easily. The TSA does the same thing, by the way, to people who attempt to smuggle prohibited items or "interfere with screening."
Believe it or not, the U.S. government stations people at Canadian airports to spot Americans disembarking from airplanes coming from Cuba. They get those people at U.S. immigration, which is physically in Canada. They just follow them within the airport. It's like shooting fish in a barrel!
Bruce
Believe it or not, the U.S. government stations people at Canadian airports to spot Americans disembarking from airplanes coming from Cuba. They get those people at U.S. immigration, which is physically in Canada. They just follow them within the airport. It's like shooting fish in a barrel!
Bruce
Feb 4, 2009 | 1:07 pm
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Feb 4, 2009 | 3:44 pm
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Travel to Cuba
Its very strange to me that travel to cuba is subject to so many US restrictions but travel to North Korea is ok.
http://www.treas.gov/offices/enforce...cii/nkorea.txt
It's a good trip - check out http://www.koryogroup.com
http://www.treas.gov/offices/enforce...cii/nkorea.txt
It's a good trip - check out http://www.koryogroup.com
Feb 4, 2009 | 8:10 pm
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I was in EYW in 2001 on a dive trip. The captain of the boat detailed for us just how easy it is to make the trip to Cuba by sea and get away with it. You basically stock up on groceries before you leave so you can claim that you didn't spend money on food and pack enough gas to not need to buy while there. Doesn't make it legit, but it certainly is easier.
Feb 4, 2009 | 11:40 pm
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Feb 5, 2009 | 4:41 am
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My understanding is that the issue isn't what kind of currency you spend but, rather, "trading with the enemy." You could use yen, and it wouldn't get around the ban.
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Feb 5, 2009 | 4:55 am
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Confirming and expanding on points already made: Treasury imposes these civil penalties on Americans who travel to Cuba without permission. The standard fine is $7500. The standard of evidence is not the same as in a criminal case. Civil fines can be imposed much more easily. The TSA does the same thing, by the way, to people who attempt to smuggle prohibited items or "interfere with screening."
Believe it or not, the U.S. government stations people at Canadian airports to spot Americans disembarking from airplanes coming from Cuba. They get those people at U.S. immigration, which is physically in Canada. They just follow them within the airport. It's like shooting fish in a barrel!
Bruce
Believe it or not, the U.S. government stations people at Canadian airports to spot Americans disembarking from airplanes coming from Cuba. They get those people at U.S. immigration, which is physically in Canada. They just follow them within the airport. It's like shooting fish in a barrel!
Bruce