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Originally Posted by whirledtraveler
(Post 11195161)
Wouldn't they have to demonstrate that you spent money there as per the posts above?
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Originally Posted by gglave
(Post 11196814)
The act of purchasing a ticket on a flight that lands in Cuba demonstrates 'spending money' as a percentage of your ticket fee pays for the landing rights for the aircraft at a Cuban airport.
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Originally Posted by gglave
(Post 11196814)
The act of purchasing a ticket on a flight that lands in Cuba demonstrates 'spending money' as a percentage of your ticket fee pays for the landing rights for the aircraft at a Cuban airport.
You could have a point with airport tax, but not airport tax. |
Originally Posted by whirledtraveler
(Post 11195161)
Wouldn't they have to demonstrate that you spent money there as per the posts above?
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The airport tax is paid in hard currency on arrival. There is no avoiding it. If you arrive by air you have spent money in Cuba.
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So arrive by sea?
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Originally Posted by Richelieu
(Post 11197086)
By this line of reasoning, a part of any ticket sold by any airline servicing Cuba is devoted to paying the fuel, some of which is bought in Cuba (for plane going there, but as revenue isn't this individualized...
You could have a point with airport tax, but not airport tax. Doesn't affect me anyway - I'm Canadian. I've been to Cuba on holiday. Flew there non-stop from Canada (loved the vacation). I smoke Cuban cigars and legally buy Cuban rum. My American friends on my cigar forums have told me that, according to the officials they've spoken to, the act of buying a ticket on a plane which touches down in Cuba means you've 'traded with an enemy.' |
Confirming and expanding on points already made: Treasury imposes these civil penalties on Americans who travel to Cuba without permission. The standard fine is $7500. The standard of evidence is not the same as in a criminal case. Civil fines can be imposed much more easily. The TSA does the same thing, by the way, to people who attempt to smuggle prohibited items or "interfere with screening."
Believe it or not, the U.S. government stations people at Canadian airports to spot Americans disembarking from airplanes coming from Cuba. They get those people at U.S. immigration, which is physically in Canada. They just follow them within the airport. It's like shooting fish in a barrel! :( Bruce |
Originally Posted by Sydneysider
(Post 11195210)
Maybe, but it seems to me that the burden of proof is shifting from "innocent until proven guilty" to its opposite.
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Travel to Cuba
Its very strange to me that travel to cuba is subject to so many US restrictions but travel to North Korea is ok.
http://www.treas.gov/offices/enforce...cii/nkorea.txt It's a good trip - check out http://www.koryogroup.com |
Originally Posted by jamar
(Post 11200620)
So arrive by sea?
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I did not vote for Obama, but I would applaud him vociferously if he lifted the arcane and insidious travel, er "spending" ban, re: Cuba.
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Originally Posted by sbm12
(Post 11197173)
The airport tax is paid in hard currency on arrival. There is no avoiding it. If you arrive by air you have spent money in Cuba.
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My understanding is that the issue isn't what kind of currency you spend but, rather, "trading with the enemy." You could use yen, and it wouldn't get around the ban.
Bruce |
Originally Posted by bdschobel
(Post 11201737)
Confirming and expanding on points already made: Treasury imposes these civil penalties on Americans who travel to Cuba without permission. The standard fine is $7500. The standard of evidence is not the same as in a criminal case. Civil fines can be imposed much more easily. The TSA does the same thing, by the way, to people who attempt to smuggle prohibited items or "interfere with screening."
Believe it or not, the U.S. government stations people at Canadian airports to spot Americans disembarking from airplanes coming from Cuba. They get those people at U.S. immigration, which is physically in Canada. They just follow them within the airport. It's like shooting fish in a barrel! :( Bruce |
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