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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 12:41 pm
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Extra TSA checks at RSW

Monday night RSW-EWR TSA again had 3 officers at the gate pulling random passengers out of line for another check. This is the 4th time in 6 weeks I have been pulled for this check just before boarding. I was in F each time.

I have been to RDU, CLE, CLT, IAH, EWR and PHL and have not seen this at those airports. You would think that at the bigger stations that they would do this due to the sheer number of passengers passing through Security.

I figure it to be one of two things: they either have way too many people scheduled to work on certain days or they don't trust what the initial screeners are doing.

I'm sure I didn't make any friends when after the 4th time I said, "If you did your jobs right the 1st time, you wouldn't need to be doing this again." I also suggested that they go and do checks on all of the people who go out on the flight line and in the cargo areas.

Has anyone else been seeing this? I posted 2 weeks ago about the same thing and am wondering if it is worth while writing to Skip Hawley or Michael Chertoff. Bruce
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by mbru
Monday night RSW-EWR TSA again had 3 officers at the gate pulling random passengers out of line for another check. This is the 4th time in 6 weeks I have been pulled for this check just before boarding. I was in F each time.

I have been to RDU, CLE, CLT, IAH, EWR and PHL and have not seen this at those airports. You would think that at the bigger stations that they would do this due to the sheer number of passengers passing through Security.

I figure it to be one of two things: they either have way too many people scheduled to work on certain days or they don't trust what the initial screeners are doing.

I'm sure I didn't make any friends when after the 4th time I said, "If you did your jobs right the 1st time, you wouldn't need to be doing this again." I also suggested that they go and do checks on all of the people who go out on the flight line and in the cargo areas.

Has anyone else been seeing this? I posted 2 weeks ago about the same thing and am wondering if it is worth while writing to Skip Hawley or Michael Chertoff. Bruce
I know this is 20-20 hindsight, but, next time, remember to make them change their gloves -- and don't let them simply reach into their pockets and pull out other gloves. It doesn't matter whether or not you're concerned about germs or not. It's one of the few ways we can fight back.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 2:04 pm
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Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
I know this is 20-20 hindsight, but, next time, remember to make them change their gloves -- and don't let them simply reach into their pockets and pull out other gloves. It doesn't matter whether or not you're concerned about germs or not. It's one of the few ways we can fight back.
Also two words, private screening. They'll back down right there when they have to walk back to the security checkpoint with you to use the area behind curtain #1.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 3:18 pm
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Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
I know this is 20-20 hindsight, but, next time, remember to make them change their gloves -- and don't let them simply reach into their pockets and pull out other gloves. It doesn't matter whether or not you're concerned about germs or not. It's one of the few ways we can fight back.
yup and if in f or the first "zone to board if no f/c, do be the first one to board

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Also two words, private screening. They'll back down right there when they have to walk back to the security checkpoint with you to use the area behind curtain #1.
i'm not so sure as you just might get taken back to the checkpoint with them. remember if they don't back down, you're gonna get presented with d-y-w-t-f-t and the g/a is not gonna hold the flight
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 3:32 pm
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yup and if in f or the first "zone to board if no f/c, do be the first one to board

i'm not so sure as you just might get taken back to the checkpoint with them. remember if they don't back down, you're gonna get presented with d-y-w-t-f-t and the g/a is not gonna hold the flight
I'll do that in a heartbeat. "Do you want to do your job today or shall you go find someone who does know the rules?"
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 6:27 am
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How I deal with such uunconstitutional BS

(In addition to the new glove demand)
State firmly in a loud, fake shocked voice. "What is wrong with your initial security checks back at the check-point that they need to be redone?"
Forces the TSO's into laughable justifications and plants significant seeds of doubt in other pax that TSA's actions have any value or common sense inherent in them.

It's rare, I'm usually successful at avoidance, but next time, it'll be a private screening demand, and a warning to the GA that I'll be considering it IDB if the plane leaves without me. It's about time the airlines felt some consequences for their detachment, as this wanton abuse of their pax continues.
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 5:39 pm
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I love the suggestions on this one TSA forces CATSA to do these checks on flights to DCA from Ottawa too... don't know about other US/Transborder flights though, and I've never seen them do it on a domestic or international flight other than to the US... but I'd love to try one of these out next time I'm on my way to Washington.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 3:01 pm
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Where Else

Besides RSW and Canada, any other airports doing the check?
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 4:19 pm
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Originally Posted by mbru
Besides RSW and Canada, any other airports doing the check?
Seen it recently at ROC and MCO, and (some time back) at SYR. If this act does not violate the constitutional protection against unreasonable search, I'm hard pressed to imagine what could.

ETA; of course you see this at MCO because COMAIR employees were weapons-running to Puerto Rico, so someone needed to bear the consequences, and it seems pax (except, of course, Lumpy) will put up with anything.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 4:25 am
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Of course, we all know RSW is just a terrorist hot-bed.

If they're insisting on pulling this bullmanure, why not at MIA or MCO where there have been multiple issues? OR, get it right the first time! One grope/prod per person.
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