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Wally Bird Aug 26, 2008 8:21 am


Originally Posted by halls120 (Post 10260773)
The other thing people can do in the meantime is write their elected representatives and complain about TSA incompetency and abuses of power. If enough of us complained, maybe some of the dead as**s on Capitol Hill would rein TSA in.

We have. They haven't.

mikeef Aug 26, 2008 10:37 am


Originally Posted by Andy1369 (Post 10260309)
The story up to the carryon bag search made sense - but why did they spend 40 minutes looking through her carryon?

Because there's some idiot who thought, "Wow, maybe she really was a terrorist and the underwire bra thing is an excuse. So whatever she had in her shirt is now in her bag, and if I catch a terrorist, I get a kewpie doll. At the very least, for every ten bag searches I do, I get to choose one item from the box of stuff we've confiscated."

Mike

wildcatlh Aug 26, 2008 10:50 am


Originally Posted by mikeef (Post 10262423)
Because there's some idiot who thought, "Wow, maybe she really was a terrorist and the underwire bra thing is an excuse. So whatever she had in her shirt is now in her bag, and if I catch a terrorist, I get a kewpie doll. At the very least, for every ten bag searches I do, I get to choose one item from the box of stuff we've confiscated."

Mike

Now now, lets not disparage the TSA unnecessarily here. After all, they've never confiscated anything in their history. Passengers merely voluntarily surrender items that Kippie decides they're not allowed to have, because dammit, one day they're gonna figure out how to hijack an airplane with a shampoo bottle! I mean, c'mon!

(ok, I think I overdid the sarcasm there)

red456 Aug 26, 2008 5:08 pm


Originally Posted by halls120 (Post 10260773)
The other thing people can do in the meantime is write their elected representatives and complain about TSA incompetency and abuses of power. If enough of us complained, maybe some of the dead as**s on Capitol Hill would rein TSA in.

I've done so on several occasions, Sens. Lautenberg and Menendez. I don't even get the courtesy of an acknowledgment of my correspondence. Rep. Ferguson, who is not running this year, does respond but basically it's the "anything to keep us 'safe'" response.

n4zhg Aug 26, 2008 5:32 pm


Originally Posted by mre5765 (Post 10261034)
The TSA has earned the booby prize on this one.


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 10261497)
Tit for Tat!

TWEET! (Throws yellow flag)

Both of you are assessed fifteen yards for bad punnage. :p

n4zhg Aug 26, 2008 5:36 pm


Originally Posted by halls120 (Post 10260773)
The other thing people can do in the meantime is write their elected representatives and complain about TSA incompetency and abuses of power. If enough of us complained, maybe some of the dead as**s on Capitol Hill would rein TSA in.

Unless your letter is wrapped in a one-inch stack of C-notes, it's not going to get within a hundred yards of a senator or congresscritter. :mad:

Fredd Aug 26, 2008 6:50 pm

Delayed by her bra, air passenger is indignant
 
Tyche Hendricks, Chronicle Staff Writer

Tuesday, August 26, 2008

(08-25) 16:51 PDT OAKLAND -- When Berkeley resident Nancy Kates arrived at Oakland International Airport to board JetBlue flight 472, she thought she was heading off on a routine journey to visit her mother in Boston. Instead she ended up in a standoff with Transportation Safety Administration officials over her bra.


http://tinyurl.com/6gkcae

MikeMpls Aug 26, 2008 7:13 pm

Quoted at the end of the article:


Originally Posted by San Francisco Chronicle
Barry Steinhardt, the director of the American Civil Liberties Union's technology and liberty program, said Monday of federal security officials: "They can't find bombs in checked luggage, and they're essentially doing a pat-down of private parts. This is a security apparatus that is out of control."

The clock is ticking on this agency. She also threatened to sic NOW on them.

Boggie Dog Aug 26, 2008 8:40 pm


Originally Posted by n4zhg (Post 10264428)
TWEET! (Throws yellow flag)

Both of you are assessed fifteen yards for bad punnage. :p

Well this is a weighty issue that needs strong support!:D

PhlyingRPh Aug 26, 2008 8:46 pm


Originally Posted by LessO2 (Post 10259392)
Way to win the battle, but lose the PR war.

it's the american way!

halls120 Aug 26, 2008 9:01 pm


Originally Posted by n4zhg (Post 10264440)
Unless your letter is wrapped in a one-inch stack of C-notes, it's not going to get within a hundred yards of a senator or congresscritter. :mad:

True - and it is beyond sad that our elected "public servants" don't listen to us.

Georgia Peach Aug 26, 2008 10:47 pm

Passengers really have no recourse when the TSA sets their sights on you.
It's a power trip. Even when they see what the *dangerous* item is, they waste time and taxpayer$$$ swabbing it. Don't they realize an electric toothbrush is just that and not something they need to swab? Do they do it to justify having flagged it? Lack of common sense is now a salaried position
with benefits. :mad:

skylady Aug 27, 2008 4:38 am

It is just a distraction so the next 10 or so get waived by.

mikeef Aug 27, 2008 7:42 am


Originally Posted by MikeMpls (Post 10264913)
The clock is ticking on this agency. She also threatened to sic NOW on them.

Alas, we have said that so many times in this forum over the years, yet this agency keeps getting more and more power. I only wish...

Mike

Boraxo Aug 27, 2008 2:44 pm

Much ado about nothing, but the media likes a story that involves bras and government critique.

The woman was an experienced traveler, so she was well familiar with the process. Everyone gets a pat down when they set off the detector. Who knows what she could have been hiding up there?

I agree with most of the anti-TSA sentiment but this dog don't hunt.


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