Pushing my luck to the limit
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Pushing my luck to the limit
It's been a sort of inside joke as of late that I NEVER get secondary TSA screening. Well I had an extra 3 hours when I was going home from ORD, and decided to see just how far I could take it. Yes, I understand I was holding the line up, I'm a jerk for that, etc... but there was very little line (I was taking off at a low traffic time) and a totally open line next to this particular line. Had more then say 1 person lined up behind me I would've stopped but here's how it went. I kept my laptop in its bag, a big bottle of shampoo in my carry-on, my wallet, keys, and belt on my person (I occasionally forget my belt, it always sets the scanner off). First, an official noticed that my laptop bag was unopened and there was no laptop in a tray. He questioned and I played stupid (this is a recurring theme) and took my laptop out. Score 1 for TSA. I still had tons of metal in my pockets. the detector went off, I took my belt off and put it on the belt. the buzzer went off a second time, again took my wallet out and put it on the belt. I'm sure at this point secondary is inevitable, and again (car keys still on me) I go through, this is 3 times, and the detector dings. I take my car keys out and play stupid "Shoot, I'm just a mess today, sorry about that!" and finally I'm through with no ding.
Instead of getting secondary screening, to my amazement I walk out and pick up my bag, laptop, belt, wallet, and car keys and head to my gate. I was amazed, what makes me so untouchable? In years of traveling I've been put through secondary twice, and both times they were doing it to almost everyone.
Any thoughts as to why I've never been pulled in the past 5 years? I've been on about 100 segments in those 5 years. Just luck or is there some other factor at play? Maybe the government is watching me
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Instead of getting secondary screening, to my amazement I walk out and pick up my bag, laptop, belt, wallet, and car keys and head to my gate. I was amazed, what makes me so untouchable? In years of traveling I've been put through secondary twice, and both times they were doing it to almost everyone.
Any thoughts as to why I've never been pulled in the past 5 years? I've been on about 100 segments in those 5 years. Just luck or is there some other factor at play? Maybe the government is watching me
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Come visit me in Dubai. Book the ticket via London and Beirut on MEA and get a 24 hour stopover in Beirut to see the city (a really nice place!). While in the Gulf, we'll take a quick trip to see some great sights in Yemen and Oman. Then you can go back to the US, tell the cheery folks at immigration that you were visiting a friend, and you'll get secondary screening for life.


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It's been a sort of inside joke as of late that I NEVER get secondary TSA screening. Well I had an extra 3 hours when I was going home from ORD, and decided to see just how far I could take it. Yes, I understand I was holding the line up, I'm a jerk for that, etc... but there was very little line (I was taking off at a low traffic time) and a totally open line next to this particular line. Had more then say 1 person lined up behind me I would've stopped but here's how it went. I kept my laptop in its bag, a big bottle of shampoo in my carry-on, my wallet, keys, and belt on my person (I occasionally forget my belt, it always sets the scanner off). First, an official noticed that my laptop bag was unopened and there was no laptop in a tray. He questioned and I played stupid (this is a recurring theme) and took my laptop out. Score 1 for TSA. I still had tons of metal in my pockets. the detector went off, I took my belt off and put it on the belt. the buzzer went off a second time, again took my wallet out and put it on the belt. I'm sure at this point secondary is inevitable, and again (car keys still on me) I go through, this is 3 times, and the detector dings. I take my car keys out and play stupid "Shoot, I'm just a mess today, sorry about that!" and finally I'm through with no ding.
Instead of getting secondary screening, to my amazement I walk out and pick up my bag, laptop, belt, wallet, and car keys and head to my gate. I was amazed, what makes me so untouchable? In years of traveling I've been put through secondary twice, and both times they were doing it to almost everyone.
Any thoughts as to why I've never been pulled in the past 5 years? I've been on about 100 segments in those 5 years. Just luck or is there some other factor at play? Maybe the government is watching me
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Instead of getting secondary screening, to my amazement I walk out and pick up my bag, laptop, belt, wallet, and car keys and head to my gate. I was amazed, what makes me so untouchable? In years of traveling I've been put through secondary twice, and both times they were doing it to almost everyone.
Any thoughts as to why I've never been pulled in the past 5 years? I've been on about 100 segments in those 5 years. Just luck or is there some other factor at play? Maybe the government is watching me
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Allegedly, there's a new SOP in place that gives you unlimited tries through the WTMD to get a no-ding. If you get the no ding, no pat down.

Had a guy go through FOUR times yesterday ... each time going back and divesting another item. Cellphone. Belt. Coins. On the fourth alarm -- after he had divested everything possible, as far I could tell, but still rang -- he said, "Do you think it might be the steel rod in my leg?"
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I kept my laptop in its bag, a big bottle of shampoo in my carry-on, my wallet, keys, and belt on my person (I occasionally forget my belt, it always sets the scanner off). First, an official noticed that my laptop bag was unopened and there was no laptop in a tray. He questioned and I played stupid (this is a recurring theme) and took my laptop out. Score 1 for TSA. I still had tons of metal in my pockets.
Seems like that's the only thing that actually got through in the end since they called you on the laptop and you finally went thru the WTMD without a ding. Interesting study though. I'd like to see more try and report back.
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Yeah, what else can I try? Should I pack my pocket with change and empty it one coin at a time? wear multiple metal bracelets and take them off one at a time? Funny thing is, if I travel with my father he'll get pulled every time. That started the inside joke.
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So how is it that a watch will work through the detector but coins in the pocket won't?
I laugh whenever I hear the screeners talk about foil chewing gum wrappers.
I laugh whenever I hear the screeners talk about foil chewing gum wrappers.
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damn skippy. I'd hate to start up a big conversation over how nice the Canadian agents are to me versus how mean the US agents are, especially since I nexused up and don't even have to think about it any more!
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Getting into Korea at ICN was quick and painless ... guard didn't even say a word to me.
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Come visit me in Dubai. Book the ticket via London and Beirut on MEA and get a 24 hour stopover in Beirut to see the city (a really nice place!). While in the Gulf, we'll take a quick trip to see some great sights in Yemen and Oman. Then you can go back to the US, tell the cheery folks at immigration that you were visiting a friend, and you'll get secondary screening for life.


and then on to sights yet unseen - Dubai, Yemem, Oman.....I imagine they'd be worth all the secondaries they could through at me.

