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Dovster Jul 3, 2008 8:12 am


Originally Posted by bdjohns1 (Post 9976482)
Cottage cheese just gets dumped in a milk/cream dressing.


Obviously the nefarious activities of a group of dairy terrorists!

Global_Hi_Flyer Jul 3, 2008 8:34 am

I witnessed TSA confiscating baby food from a mother with child in arms at BWI.

If they do that, a jar of peanut butter will never make it through.

Remember that peanut butter and cheese are dense enough to look like bomb material on an x-ray (even the more sophisticated ones). I've had trouble with fudge at CVG.

sbm12 Jul 3, 2008 8:54 am


Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer (Post 9976766)
I witnessed TSA confiscating baby food from a mother with child in arms at BWI.

A gross violation of the TSA policy on the issue.


Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer (Post 9976766)
Remember that peanut butter and cheese are dense enough to look like bomb material on an x-ray (even the more sophisticated ones). I've had trouble with fudge at CVG.

Looking like a bomb, whether visually or in an x-ray, is NOT the same as being a bomb. An ETD swab on the outside of the package should clear that up very quickly. Instead we have a moronic policy that is focused on finding things that look like bombs and dealing with them using a response that allows for zero flexibility or reason. The TSA should be stopping threats, not things that look like threats. And while cheese consumed shortly prior to or during a flight might have the potential to cause some problems it is NOT a threat to the security of the aviation system and should be treated that way.

Global_Hi_Flyer Jul 3, 2008 9:32 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 9976868)
A gross violation of the TSA policy on the issue.



Looking like a bomb, whether visually or in an x-ray, is NOT the same as being a bomb. An ETD swab on the outside of the package should clear that up very quickly. Instead we have a moronic policy that is focused on finding things that look like bombs and dealing with them using a response that allows for zero flexibility or reason. The TSA should be stopping threats, not things that look like threats. And while cheese consumed shortly prior to or during a flight might have the potential to cause some problems it is NOT a threat to the security of the aviation system and should be treated that way.

Agree on both counts. I spoke to the woman who had the food confiscated, and she wasn't going to take the time to complain further - apparently it was enough trouble dealing with an infant (I get that).

I've posted before my opinion that the TSA is implementing rules for "administrative convenience" not to stop actual threats. I am still of that opinion. I think it's wrongheaded.... but I also know that these are the same folks that think that using a blacklight and lupe on a US passport is "security".

Cee Jul 3, 2008 9:37 am


Originally Posted by Concorde69 (Post 9974663)
I've read accounts from people on FT saying that their jars of peanut butter were confiscated. My question is can you bring a peanut butter and jelly sandwich through security?

Sandwhiches ^
Brick of cheese ^
Jar of peanut butter :td:

Concorde69 Jul 3, 2008 9:45 am


Originally Posted by mikeef (Post 9976375)
Actually, neither is safe, because if you found an oven, you could melt the cheddar, which would then make it a liquid.

I don't think the TSA has official rules on this type of thing... but think about it, you can freeze anything at a certain temperature and melt anything at a certain temperature (generalizing here), so theoretically everything is a liquid and a solid! Next thing you know they will change the rules to say "liquid at STP" or something.

DESMOINESguy Jul 3, 2008 9:53 am

They took the little styrofoam cup of salad dressing out of my ceasar salad once in MSP. I complained, agreed it was a liquid, but that it was clearly less than 3 oz. After several people conferred, they ended up putting it in a quart zip lock and gave it back to me and let me through security with it.

Jenbel Jul 3, 2008 10:33 am

You know, the thought of a little herd of TSOs standing around debating what should be done about a container of salad dressing just makes me snicker :D

Rawan Jul 3, 2008 10:58 am

It's so inconsistent
 
My recent experiences at MSP, ORD, MCO, TPA...

Salad dressing cup, not OK (ORD)
Salsa cup, not OK (TPA)
Taco sauce packets (lots of 'em), OK (TPA)
Cooked rice (about 65% water, by my estimation) OK (MCO)
Cooked rice, not OK (MSP)
Watermelon cubes (about 93% liquid) OK, (MSP)
Canteloup + Honeydew cubes (about 90% liquid), not OK (MSP)
Glue stick (not liquid glue) had to be put in the Kippie Baggie; same sized lipstick was OK.

As my elderly father (who likes to bring his rice for his meals) said: "these people are mu#@ing forons...";)

Polar Man Jul 3, 2008 1:32 pm

terrorist 'dry run'
 
[QUOTE=Tucker501;9974451]Does anyone have past experience bringing a jar of peanut butter (just regular, not anything special or homemade) past security? Or a small "brick" of cheese, something common like Velveeta (not spread)?QUOTE]


how quickly we forget:D
July 25, 2007
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/0...-the-chee.html
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...bn25false.html


oh whoops;)
"CNN: TSA knew 'dry run' terror alerts were bogus "
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/TSA_dr...ogus_0727.html

so don't bring any cheese with you unless you want to be featured on the TSA week in review as a "big catch©":-:

Tucker501 Jul 3, 2008 3:01 pm

follow up to this
 
I guess where I was going was for making snacks that won't go soggy (PBJ sandwich). I normally keep a jar of good ole Jif at my desk along with Saltines. I am diabetic, and the occasional snack keeps going. Really would like to do the same thing, bring a small jar of PB or block of cheese and some crackers to make a quick snack. I hate to do it, but I might have to play the "I'm a diabetic card" if they won't let me through. I travel with a small cooler with gel packs to keep my meds cold, so I'm hoping they would take mercy!

sbm12 Jul 3, 2008 4:44 pm


Originally Posted by Tucker501 (Post 9978938)
I guess where I was going was for making snacks that won't go soggy (PBJ sandwich). I normally keep a jar of good ole Jif at my desk along with Saltines. I am diabetic, and the occasional snack keeps going. Really would like to do the same thing, bring a small jar of PB or block of cheese and some crackers to make a quick snack. I hate to do it, but I might have to play the "I'm a diabetic card" if they won't let me through. I travel with a small cooler with gel packs to keep my meds cold, so I'm hoping they would take mercy!

If the food fits in the med pack you should have no problems. If you keep them in a separate bag you might have troubles, even though you shouldn't since you have a medical condition that justifies your need.

jachot Jul 4, 2008 5:22 pm

I have not tried to take PB on the plane but I did have a full package of istant jello pudding (in the little cups) and they were taken. Granted they are not as solid as PB but they are not liquid ether.

jachot

Oxb Jul 4, 2008 5:40 pm

You can get Jif-to-Go in 2.25 oz containers that can go in the kippie bag.

primusux Jul 4, 2008 6:11 pm

My experience - an unopened jar was not confiscated. An opened jar was. Sandwiches never have been.


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