TSA intimidates children
#16
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Which is why I continue to be amazed that no one demands that every single member of the executive branch, traveling with or without a detail, should be required to go through the same security procedure as anyone else. Chertoff, et al - ANYONE flying commercial, members of Congress, etc. should be required to go through the line.
Unless and until government officials have to experience the same thing we do, nothing is going to change. If you're traveling with a detail, then let them show their credentials, but make the elected official, administration official or whatever go through just like the rest of us.
Until that happens, nothing changes.
Unless and until government officials have to experience the same thing we do, nothing is going to change. If you're traveling with a detail, then let them show their credentials, but make the elected official, administration official or whatever go through just like the rest of us.
Until that happens, nothing changes.
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Actually I think most congressmen and senators, and executive branch officials below the rank of cabinet secretaries (and even some of them) fly primarily commercial.
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Cabinet members (Secretaries, Dep Secs and some Under Secs) fly on military aircraft. Most members of Congress fly commercial (just go to IAD or DCA on a Monday or a Thursday and watch them coming and going). All other executive branch employees (most White House staff, assistant secretaries, and people like Kip Hawley) fly commercial. But, in many cases, some have security details which exempt them from screening. All I'm saying is that with the exception of cabinet members and certain WH employees, they should ALL go through screening. Make them see what it's like being a peon like the rest of us - and I've been on the non-peon side before so know how it's played.
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I didn't say the guy made it up - I said the the writer was uninformed saying that a male TSA could screen a female child. The SOP is you are basically spread eagled while you are wanded or pat down - I've had it done dozens of times so I know whats done. Why you would let a child go through barefoot is beyond me, but anyway. I am not saying the person made it up, simply they are uninformed. A male cannot screen a female; a female cannot screen a male - in the US.
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Whether I believe it is necessary or appropriate is not the issue here. At the airport, all people get harassed equally.
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I was recently on a flight and when we were deplaning, a little girl, about 11 years old, wanted to take a blanket. The mother wrapped the blanket in the girl's sweatshirt, handed it back to her and they got off the plane. I said loudly enough the mother heard, "she's teaching that little girl that it's OK to steal."
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I was recently on a flight and when we were deplaning, a little girl, about 11 years old, wanted to take a blanket. The mother wrapped the blanket in the girl's sweatshirt, handed it back to her and they got off the plane. I said loudly enough the mother heard, "she's teaching that little girl that it's OK to steal."
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I was recently on a flight and when we were deplaning, a little girl, about 11 years old, wanted to take a blanket. The mother wrapped the blanket in the girl's sweatshirt, handed it back to her and they got off the plane. I said loudly enough the mother heard, "she's teaching that little girl that it's OK to steal."


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Passive-aggressive personality disorder (also called negativistic personality disorder) is a personality disorder said to be marked by a pervasive pattern of negative attitudes and passive, usually disavowed resistance in interpersonal or occupational situations.
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Oh, I get it now. You are trying to elevate your low self-esteem by putting others down. That's OK. You may continue your therapy at my expense. :-:
BTW, Are your other 4,532 posts as worthless as your last two?
BTW, Are your other 4,532 posts as worthless as your last two?
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#28




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yes, mine included, they took him off to a side room and intimidated him without asking me if it was ok to touch my child, they didnt believe he was 12 like it said on his passport,
#29
In smaller airports, there are sometimes not enough screeners to insure that both genders are represented. Then, females will be patted down by males, and vice versa. Or else, it's DY...T? I have seen this happen to young children, though not UMs as young as the case cited.
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They are obviously joking about the blanket comment. Noone would be goofball enough to actually say that about a little girl needing a blanket.Common sense people......As far as the male-male and female-female. I have seen the reverse too many times to count at many airports, here and abroad.



