BDO's prevent security breach
Jun 26, 2008 | 7:49 am
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Mission Creep
Don't suggest it. That'll be the next mission for TSA.
1984 has arrived. Job well done. You caught a guy with a fake ID, but nothing about whether he was a threat to airline safety. Yes is no, black is white, bad is good. TSA is only for our safety.
1984 has arrived. Job well done. You caught a guy with a fake ID, but nothing about whether he was a threat to airline safety. Yes is no, black is white, bad is good. TSA is only for our safety.
Jun 26, 2008 | 7:54 am
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I don't know...this whole scene from the BDOs sounds a lot like the spaghetti stuffed with bicarbonate of soda that Otis B Driftwood mentioned in A Night at the Opera - it causes and cures indigestion at the same time
Jun 26, 2008 | 8:34 am
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apologies on my part (and penalty box for me) as i read it as it was the pax yelling "breach" to create a diversion (tho he still gets the dumba$$ award by running towards security)
Jun 26, 2008 | 8:53 am
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Jun 26, 2008 | 8:55 am
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Wouldn't this same guy have been caught for "breachinig security" by a regular TDC? What difference does it make that there were BDOs involved?
And that's putting aside that all the guy did was have a fake ID, not actually anything that was a security risk.
And that's putting aside that all the guy did was have a fake ID, not actually anything that was a security risk.
Jun 26, 2008 | 8:58 am
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) are illegal immigrants with no documents. They can no longer fly domestic and will have to take the bus. This will cause airlines to lose revenue from good cash paying customers. Good work TSA. 
Jun 26, 2008 | 9:37 am
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The largest group majorly affected (as in actually changing their life styles, not just counting the time wasted and the constitutional/civil rights violations for 2 million pax per day ) are illegal immigrants with no documents. They can no longer fly domestic and will have to take the bus.
) are illegal immigrants with no documents. They can no longer fly domestic and will have to take the bus.As for the BDO "stopping" a security breach, I give much more credit to the off-duty LEO who actually detained the guy. "Discovering" the guy's bad ID did nothing to enhance security or avoid inconvenience for other travelers. Stopping him once he started running toward the sterile area did.
Jun 26, 2008 | 2:15 pm
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So if this guy turns out to be one of Bin Laden's cronies, what will your remarks be? Still doesn't matter because they (the mean ole TSA) should not be checking IDs?
None of you know why this guy has multiple ID's, nor why he decided to run when they found out he was trying to pass as somene else.
A simple case of a fake ID to buy some beer such as McLovin (from the movie Superbad)? Maybe. Someone trying to hide their identity for more significant reasons? also a possibility.
I would at least wait for the follow-up story of who this moron is before making all the normal assumptions this forum is full of.
None of you know why this guy has multiple ID's, nor why he decided to run when they found out he was trying to pass as somene else.
A simple case of a fake ID to buy some beer such as McLovin (from the movie Superbad)? Maybe. Someone trying to hide their identity for more significant reasons? also a possibility.
I would at least wait for the follow-up story of who this moron is before making all the normal assumptions this forum is full of.
Jun 26, 2008 | 2:26 pm
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The fact that he didn't want to talk to TSA puts him far above 'moron' status.
Jun 26, 2008 | 2:39 pm
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So if this guy turns out to be one of Bin Laden's cronies, what will your remarks be? Still doesn't matter because they (the mean ole TSA) should not be checking IDs?
None of you know why this guy has multiple ID's, nor why he decided to run when they found out he was trying to pass as somene else.
A simple case of a fake ID to buy some beer such as McLovin (from the movie Superbad)? Maybe. Someone trying to hide their identity for more significant reasons? also a possibility.
I would at least wait for the follow-up story of who this moron is before making all the normal assumptions this forum is full of.
None of you know why this guy has multiple ID's, nor why he decided to run when they found out he was trying to pass as somene else.
A simple case of a fake ID to buy some beer such as McLovin (from the movie Superbad)? Maybe. Someone trying to hide their identity for more significant reasons? also a possibility.
I would at least wait for the follow-up story of who this moron is before making all the normal assumptions this forum is full of.
If the guy turns out to be Bin Laden's crony, my response would be that US intelligence and law-enforcement should have known about him and law-enforcement should have executed a specific, targeted arrest warrant, based on probable cause, to bring him in. Not waited for him to show up at the airport and fumble an interview about his ID.
Turning domestic transportation points into law-enforcement dragnets is a dangerous precedent.
Jun 26, 2008 | 3:02 pm
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So if this guy turns out to be one of Bin Laden's cronies, what will your remarks be? Still doesn't matter because they (the mean ole TSA) should not be checking IDs?
None of you know why this guy has multiple ID's, nor why he decided to run when they found out he was trying to pass as somene else.
A simple case of a fake ID to buy some beer such as McLovin (from the movie Superbad)? Maybe. Someone trying to hide their identity for more significant reasons? also a possibility.
I would at least wait for the follow-up story of who this moron is before making all the normal assumptions this forum is full of.
None of you know why this guy has multiple ID's, nor why he decided to run when they found out he was trying to pass as somene else.
A simple case of a fake ID to buy some beer such as McLovin (from the movie Superbad)? Maybe. Someone trying to hide their identity for more significant reasons? also a possibility.
I would at least wait for the follow-up story of who this moron is before making all the normal assumptions this forum is full of.
the point that many people are making is that even if it were osama bin laden himself, if he were properly screened, he would present no risk to the plane.
then of course, there's all the other ID issues, such as why would osama bin laden's number 2 present ID declaring himself as such? or why wouldn't he book the ticket under a different name, then use a fake boarding pass to get thru security, so that his name was never matched against the no-fly list?
Jun 26, 2008 | 3:20 pm
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http://www.tsa.gov/graphics/images/p...nt_breach1.jpg
Yes, idiots, post a picture of the guy's stolen ID and info so the poor sap he dupped can get dupped again.
Yes, idiots, post a picture of the guy's stolen ID and info so the poor sap he dupped can get dupped again.
Jun 26, 2008 | 3:21 pm
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Perhaps you will keep tabs and report back for us ?