Well, if the airlines stopped losing/misdirecting baggage at the rate they do, or expedited the delivery process to the baggage carousel on arrival, or helped reduce the pilferage from checked luggage, that may reduce the madness at all phases of the trip. Oh, wait, that wasn't the madness you were referring to? :confused:

Aside: Funny how there's always enough room for crew bags on board, when in actuality crew can, if necessary, go around "behind the wing" :eek: and retrieve their bags from the hold. I've never actually seen this done, must be a FAR or Faux TSA reg. preventing it?

Crew members would require a badge with ramp access to be able to walk around the airplane on the ground. More like an airport authority regulation. If you have ever noticed, some employees have different color badges than others.

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I do expect we might see the sizers back. Carryon is likely to get out of control with the high load factors and the checked bag fees. I think that's the first thing they will try to do to alleviate the problem.

The Feds are getting in on the act. The TSA wants to expand its powers... check out the Securing Cabin Baggage Act. It calls for TSA enforcement of carry-on size, including the use of sizing templates at the X-ray machine. I don't mind enforcement of the limits, but that is NOT "transportation security" and therefore not within the purview of the TSA. Besides, the TSA couldn't manage a bathroom.

great :rolleyes: give more mission creep to the tsa :td: :mad:. lipinski must have been denied overhead space on a flight and is a putz. there's also another thread over here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...-bag-size.html

When airlines stop losing so many checked bags, I will start checking bags instead of carrying them onto airliners.

Folks, I can honestly say that this is something I hope never comes to pass. We get enough grief with the liquids ban and other policies we are required to enforce, not to mention that there will be the inevitable exceptions to the rule (Strollers come to mind) that are going to require hand screening.

If the airlines want this, they can use the bag sizer’s (sp) that each one has right next to the ticket counters. We have all seen them, the “If your bag does not fit in here you cant take it onboard” chrome tube steel contraptions. Congress is going to do what they like, after all the TSA is a government agency, but I hope they put this back on the airlines and not on the checkpoint.

aww you want some limburger with that? You all get what you deserve because the idiots above you have decided to chase the 1 in centillion chance/risks without use of any common sense other then knee jerk reactions and restrict items based on fantasy science that isnt backed by reality or peer-reviewed science.

TSA could stop alot of the grief they get by stopping thegate rapes, ID BS, War on Watah, boot the foot wear fetishist to the curb, along with the other BS items put in place since 9/10/01 cause it hasnt done a dang thing to make us safer. personally next to some of the pork projects coming out of congress TSA is the biggest waste of money, even more so then the war on drugs, for which if the govt was smart they would legalize it and tax(worse then cigs) the heck out of it


Ron please explain this to me. Why is my Benchmade Stryker 915 tanto drop blade folder is a risk, but yet my trauma sheers(which can cut through human bone and quarters) or surgical scapel sharp fiskar scissors(that i can remove the screw and have not one but two daggers) are allowed.

that congress twit is gonna get a note, and just like the poster in the other thread im gonna insinuate hes corrupt and bought off for making those comments

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Except that people who check-in online and don't check in bags never go to the desk. The go right through security to the gate.

The restrictions are moronic. Under that proposal, most poster tubes would be banned. for being too long.

Please, folks -- help to stop this nonsense before it starts. WRITE YOUR REPRESENTATIVE!

Then the airlines have a choice:
- staff the security entry points with their own people to check carry on sizes

- check bag sizes at the gate

- both of the above.

RyanAir's CEO is actually proposing something that makes sense (for a change): get rid of bag check in at the land side check in counter. Make pax drag their bags to gate where they will be gate checked if they don't fit in the overhead. Now this might not make sense for some airlines, but for an LCC trying to same money it makes perfect sense. Which is why WN's carry on sizes are higher than the competition's: they'd rather not check bags.

We've yet to see the miraculous recovery in the airline industry from checked bagged fees. What we are seeing instead is that the pax are winning the game of chicken: they've stopped checking bags due to the fees, and the GA, under pressure to record an on time departure, is proactively waiving fees for those who will agree to gate check before boarding. This proposed bill is nothing less than a desperate attempt by UA (it's a IL congressman sponsoring the bill) to save its bag fee business that AC has already had the good sense to rid of.

The TSA's mission is to prevent things that can hurt planes and pax from getting on the plane, period. The fact that their primary mission is now to protect the revenue of the airlines and air side merchants is not an excuse to add a third wrong.

I see men do the same.

On another topic, lately I've been checking my bag, which legally works as a roll-a-board carry-on, and I've been coughing up the $15 to do so when necessary, depending on the airline and status.

My typical carry-on these days is a back-pack made for laptop/electronic gear and a second, smaller item for camera gear.

I almost always place the backpack and camera gear under the seat in front of me. It takes up most of the room, but it fits -- As they're smaller items, it is proper etiquette to place such items there (despite the fact few pax bother to do this).

Note: the few times I have placed them in bins, other pax will just pull my pack out and re-pack it, with no care for the contents -- a second, even more important reason it goes under the seat in front of me.

Maybe its time to combine my camera gear into the laptop/electronics bag and start taking the roll-a-board again. Going 100% carry-on has its benefits, but after the few last episodes of playing monopoly at ATL (you've rolled a 7 - proceed from A25 to center-point, take tram to T concourse; new gate is T8) -- Arrive at T8 and see: Flight Delayed! -- Then, New Gate: B08.

Why bother rolling it around when it can be checked.

Gotta love Hartsfield & The Orchard when wx starts playing games. ;)

I sat with a friend a few weeks ago who owns a company that makes trays, bins, and storage containers for the food and travel industries. He was about to head to a meeting in Texas to bid on baggage bins to measure carry on luggage that were 2" smaller than the current bins.